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Where exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues. | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood"
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Thanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch"
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Honestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse
She needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!"
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I'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her. | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her."
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Why? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up. | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?"
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Feinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.
I wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them. | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress."
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Dear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax! | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond"
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Mrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office. | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office."
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I love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious. | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me."
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Diane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious."
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People here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state.
If she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter. | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point."
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Nah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.
It doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better. | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70."
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I disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s? | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better."
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Because now they know she's not delivering. :-)
Just replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings.."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??"
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Oust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it! | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91."
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Blame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her. | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her..."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends..."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible."
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Cool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat… | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that"
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89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states. | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white."
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Warren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's.
Right or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue. | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t",
">\n\nIs it only me who finds politicians campaigning for higher office while serving a dereliction of duty?"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t",
">\n\nIs it only me who finds politicians campaigning for higher office while serving a dereliction of duty?",
">\n\nPeople apply and are interviewed for job promotions constantly. The problem is campaign finance that dictates they need to be derelict to stay/gain power."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t",
">\n\nIs it only me who finds politicians campaigning for higher office while serving a dereliction of duty?",
">\n\nPeople apply and are interviewed for job promotions constantly. The problem is campaign finance that dictates they need to be derelict to stay/gain power.",
">\n\nWarren/Porter 2024!"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t",
">\n\nIs it only me who finds politicians campaigning for higher office while serving a dereliction of duty?",
">\n\nPeople apply and are interviewed for job promotions constantly. The problem is campaign finance that dictates they need to be derelict to stay/gain power.",
">\n\nWarren/Porter 2024!",
">\n\nno."
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huh-uh.
I thought Liz would make a good VP years back (Obama) but she is not presidential material. Yes, even considering that putin put a life long criminal in the white house, still, Mrs. Warren is NOT who we need in the pilot's seat during the next 10 years. | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t",
">\n\nIs it only me who finds politicians campaigning for higher office while serving a dereliction of duty?",
">\n\nPeople apply and are interviewed for job promotions constantly. The problem is campaign finance that dictates they need to be derelict to stay/gain power.",
">\n\nWarren/Porter 2024!",
">\n\nno.",
">\n\nYes"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t",
">\n\nIs it only me who finds politicians campaigning for higher office while serving a dereliction of duty?",
">\n\nPeople apply and are interviewed for job promotions constantly. The problem is campaign finance that dictates they need to be derelict to stay/gain power.",
">\n\nWarren/Porter 2024!",
">\n\nno.",
">\n\nYes",
">\n\nhuh-uh. \nI thought Liz would make a good VP years back (Obama) but she is not presidential material. Yes, even considering that putin put a life long criminal in the white house, still, Mrs. Warren is NOT who we need in the pilot's seat during the next 10 years."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t",
">\n\nIs it only me who finds politicians campaigning for higher office while serving a dereliction of duty?",
">\n\nPeople apply and are interviewed for job promotions constantly. The problem is campaign finance that dictates they need to be derelict to stay/gain power.",
">\n\nWarren/Porter 2024!",
">\n\nno.",
">\n\nYes",
">\n\nhuh-uh. \nI thought Liz would make a good VP years back (Obama) but she is not presidential material. Yes, even considering that putin put a life long criminal in the white house, still, Mrs. Warren is NOT who we need in the pilot's seat during the next 10 years.",
">\n\nWhy do we need another whitx Senator? Get an asian american or latino there instead."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t",
">\n\nIs it only me who finds politicians campaigning for higher office while serving a dereliction of duty?",
">\n\nPeople apply and are interviewed for job promotions constantly. The problem is campaign finance that dictates they need to be derelict to stay/gain power.",
">\n\nWarren/Porter 2024!",
">\n\nno.",
">\n\nYes",
">\n\nhuh-uh. \nI thought Liz would make a good VP years back (Obama) but she is not presidential material. Yes, even considering that putin put a life long criminal in the white house, still, Mrs. Warren is NOT who we need in the pilot's seat during the next 10 years.",
">\n\nWhy do we need another whitx Senator? Get an asian american or latino there instead.",
">\n\nHow about a non-religious person? Country is 30% \"none\" on religion, but almost no representation."
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The entire country decided against other, younger candidates.
Remember how a TON of liberals voted for even older Bernie Sanders in the primaries?
I voted for Pete B. I'll vote for him again. Don't be the idiot who pretends the American electorate voted out other options. | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t",
">\n\nIs it only me who finds politicians campaigning for higher office while serving a dereliction of duty?",
">\n\nPeople apply and are interviewed for job promotions constantly. The problem is campaign finance that dictates they need to be derelict to stay/gain power.",
">\n\nWarren/Porter 2024!",
">\n\nno.",
">\n\nYes",
">\n\nhuh-uh. \nI thought Liz would make a good VP years back (Obama) but she is not presidential material. Yes, even considering that putin put a life long criminal in the white house, still, Mrs. Warren is NOT who we need in the pilot's seat during the next 10 years.",
">\n\nWhy do we need another whitx Senator? Get an asian american or latino there instead.",
">\n\nHow about a non-religious person? Country is 30% \"none\" on religion, but almost no representation.",
">\n\nNow do biden"
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I'm sure Elizabeth Warren also takes no issue with Rep Santos. If you lie about one thing versus six things are you better? Fake Native American vs Fake Jew? Who should be ousted from Congress? For the record, I vote for both. | [
"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t",
">\n\nIs it only me who finds politicians campaigning for higher office while serving a dereliction of duty?",
">\n\nPeople apply and are interviewed for job promotions constantly. The problem is campaign finance that dictates they need to be derelict to stay/gain power.",
">\n\nWarren/Porter 2024!",
">\n\nno.",
">\n\nYes",
">\n\nhuh-uh. \nI thought Liz would make a good VP years back (Obama) but she is not presidential material. Yes, even considering that putin put a life long criminal in the white house, still, Mrs. Warren is NOT who we need in the pilot's seat during the next 10 years.",
">\n\nWhy do we need another whitx Senator? Get an asian american or latino there instead.",
">\n\nHow about a non-religious person? Country is 30% \"none\" on religion, but almost no representation.",
">\n\nNow do biden",
">\n\nThe entire country decided against other, younger candidates.\nRemember how a TON of liberals voted for even older Bernie Sanders in the primaries? \nI voted for Pete B. I'll vote for him again. Don't be the idiot who pretends the American electorate voted out other options."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t",
">\n\nIs it only me who finds politicians campaigning for higher office while serving a dereliction of duty?",
">\n\nPeople apply and are interviewed for job promotions constantly. The problem is campaign finance that dictates they need to be derelict to stay/gain power.",
">\n\nWarren/Porter 2024!",
">\n\nno.",
">\n\nYes",
">\n\nhuh-uh. \nI thought Liz would make a good VP years back (Obama) but she is not presidential material. Yes, even considering that putin put a life long criminal in the white house, still, Mrs. Warren is NOT who we need in the pilot's seat during the next 10 years.",
">\n\nWhy do we need another whitx Senator? Get an asian american or latino there instead.",
">\n\nHow about a non-religious person? Country is 30% \"none\" on religion, but almost no representation.",
">\n\nNow do biden",
">\n\nThe entire country decided against other, younger candidates.\nRemember how a TON of liberals voted for even older Bernie Sanders in the primaries? \nI voted for Pete B. I'll vote for him again. Don't be the idiot who pretends the American electorate voted out other options.",
">\n\nI'm sure Elizabeth Warren also takes no issue with Rep Santos. If you lie about one thing versus six things are you better? Fake Native American vs Fake Jew? Who should be ousted from Congress? For the record, I vote for both."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t",
">\n\nIs it only me who finds politicians campaigning for higher office while serving a dereliction of duty?",
">\n\nPeople apply and are interviewed for job promotions constantly. The problem is campaign finance that dictates they need to be derelict to stay/gain power.",
">\n\nWarren/Porter 2024!",
">\n\nno.",
">\n\nYes",
">\n\nhuh-uh. \nI thought Liz would make a good VP years back (Obama) but she is not presidential material. Yes, even considering that putin put a life long criminal in the white house, still, Mrs. Warren is NOT who we need in the pilot's seat during the next 10 years.",
">\n\nWhy do we need another whitx Senator? Get an asian american or latino there instead.",
">\n\nHow about a non-religious person? Country is 30% \"none\" on religion, but almost no representation.",
">\n\nNow do biden",
">\n\nThe entire country decided against other, younger candidates.\nRemember how a TON of liberals voted for even older Bernie Sanders in the primaries? \nI voted for Pete B. I'll vote for him again. Don't be the idiot who pretends the American electorate voted out other options.",
">\n\nI'm sure Elizabeth Warren also takes no issue with Rep Santos. If you lie about one thing versus six things are you better? Fake Native American vs Fake Jew? Who should be ousted from Congress? For the record, I vote for both.",
">\n\nNobody cares, sitting bull."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t",
">\n\nIs it only me who finds politicians campaigning for higher office while serving a dereliction of duty?",
">\n\nPeople apply and are interviewed for job promotions constantly. The problem is campaign finance that dictates they need to be derelict to stay/gain power.",
">\n\nWarren/Porter 2024!",
">\n\nno.",
">\n\nYes",
">\n\nhuh-uh. \nI thought Liz would make a good VP years back (Obama) but she is not presidential material. Yes, even considering that putin put a life long criminal in the white house, still, Mrs. Warren is NOT who we need in the pilot's seat during the next 10 years.",
">\n\nWhy do we need another whitx Senator? Get an asian american or latino there instead.",
">\n\nHow about a non-religious person? Country is 30% \"none\" on religion, but almost no representation.",
">\n\nNow do biden",
">\n\nThe entire country decided against other, younger candidates.\nRemember how a TON of liberals voted for even older Bernie Sanders in the primaries? \nI voted for Pete B. I'll vote for him again. Don't be the idiot who pretends the American electorate voted out other options.",
">\n\nI'm sure Elizabeth Warren also takes no issue with Rep Santos. If you lie about one thing versus six things are you better? Fake Native American vs Fake Jew? Who should be ousted from Congress? For the record, I vote for both.",
">\n\nNobody cares, sitting bull.",
">\n\nI’m here for it"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t",
">\n\nIs it only me who finds politicians campaigning for higher office while serving a dereliction of duty?",
">\n\nPeople apply and are interviewed for job promotions constantly. The problem is campaign finance that dictates they need to be derelict to stay/gain power.",
">\n\nWarren/Porter 2024!",
">\n\nno.",
">\n\nYes",
">\n\nhuh-uh. \nI thought Liz would make a good VP years back (Obama) but she is not presidential material. Yes, even considering that putin put a life long criminal in the white house, still, Mrs. Warren is NOT who we need in the pilot's seat during the next 10 years.",
">\n\nWhy do we need another whitx Senator? Get an asian american or latino there instead.",
">\n\nHow about a non-religious person? Country is 30% \"none\" on religion, but almost no representation.",
">\n\nNow do biden",
">\n\nThe entire country decided against other, younger candidates.\nRemember how a TON of liberals voted for even older Bernie Sanders in the primaries? \nI voted for Pete B. I'll vote for him again. Don't be the idiot who pretends the American electorate voted out other options.",
">\n\nI'm sure Elizabeth Warren also takes no issue with Rep Santos. If you lie about one thing versus six things are you better? Fake Native American vs Fake Jew? Who should be ousted from Congress? For the record, I vote for both.",
">\n\nNobody cares, sitting bull.",
">\n\nI’m here for it",
">\n\nWell of course she does.\nKatie was one of Warren's students at Harvard Law."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t",
">\n\nIs it only me who finds politicians campaigning for higher office while serving a dereliction of duty?",
">\n\nPeople apply and are interviewed for job promotions constantly. The problem is campaign finance that dictates they need to be derelict to stay/gain power.",
">\n\nWarren/Porter 2024!",
">\n\nno.",
">\n\nYes",
">\n\nhuh-uh. \nI thought Liz would make a good VP years back (Obama) but she is not presidential material. Yes, even considering that putin put a life long criminal in the white house, still, Mrs. Warren is NOT who we need in the pilot's seat during the next 10 years.",
">\n\nWhy do we need another whitx Senator? Get an asian american or latino there instead.",
">\n\nHow about a non-religious person? Country is 30% \"none\" on religion, but almost no representation.",
">\n\nNow do biden",
">\n\nThe entire country decided against other, younger candidates.\nRemember how a TON of liberals voted for even older Bernie Sanders in the primaries? \nI voted for Pete B. I'll vote for him again. Don't be the idiot who pretends the American electorate voted out other options.",
">\n\nI'm sure Elizabeth Warren also takes no issue with Rep Santos. If you lie about one thing versus six things are you better? Fake Native American vs Fake Jew? Who should be ousted from Congress? For the record, I vote for both.",
">\n\nNobody cares, sitting bull.",
">\n\nI’m here for it",
">\n\nWell of course she does.\nKatie was one of Warren's students at Harvard Law.",
">\n\nOust? More like replace. There's been no response to her announcement. At least that I've seen."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t",
">\n\nIs it only me who finds politicians campaigning for higher office while serving a dereliction of duty?",
">\n\nPeople apply and are interviewed for job promotions constantly. The problem is campaign finance that dictates they need to be derelict to stay/gain power.",
">\n\nWarren/Porter 2024!",
">\n\nno.",
">\n\nYes",
">\n\nhuh-uh. \nI thought Liz would make a good VP years back (Obama) but she is not presidential material. Yes, even considering that putin put a life long criminal in the white house, still, Mrs. Warren is NOT who we need in the pilot's seat during the next 10 years.",
">\n\nWhy do we need another whitx Senator? Get an asian american or latino there instead.",
">\n\nHow about a non-religious person? Country is 30% \"none\" on religion, but almost no representation.",
">\n\nNow do biden",
">\n\nThe entire country decided against other, younger candidates.\nRemember how a TON of liberals voted for even older Bernie Sanders in the primaries? \nI voted for Pete B. I'll vote for him again. Don't be the idiot who pretends the American electorate voted out other options.",
">\n\nI'm sure Elizabeth Warren also takes no issue with Rep Santos. If you lie about one thing versus six things are you better? Fake Native American vs Fake Jew? Who should be ousted from Congress? For the record, I vote for both.",
">\n\nNobody cares, sitting bull.",
">\n\nI’m here for it",
">\n\nWell of course she does.\nKatie was one of Warren's students at Harvard Law.",
">\n\nOust? More like replace. There's been no response to her announcement. At least that I've seen.",
">\n\nWhich one is supposed to be 89? \n/s"
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t",
">\n\nIs it only me who finds politicians campaigning for higher office while serving a dereliction of duty?",
">\n\nPeople apply and are interviewed for job promotions constantly. The problem is campaign finance that dictates they need to be derelict to stay/gain power.",
">\n\nWarren/Porter 2024!",
">\n\nno.",
">\n\nYes",
">\n\nhuh-uh. \nI thought Liz would make a good VP years back (Obama) but she is not presidential material. Yes, even considering that putin put a life long criminal in the white house, still, Mrs. Warren is NOT who we need in the pilot's seat during the next 10 years.",
">\n\nWhy do we need another whitx Senator? Get an asian american or latino there instead.",
">\n\nHow about a non-religious person? Country is 30% \"none\" on religion, but almost no representation.",
">\n\nNow do biden",
">\n\nThe entire country decided against other, younger candidates.\nRemember how a TON of liberals voted for even older Bernie Sanders in the primaries? \nI voted for Pete B. I'll vote for him again. Don't be the idiot who pretends the American electorate voted out other options.",
">\n\nI'm sure Elizabeth Warren also takes no issue with Rep Santos. If you lie about one thing versus six things are you better? Fake Native American vs Fake Jew? Who should be ousted from Congress? For the record, I vote for both.",
">\n\nNobody cares, sitting bull.",
">\n\nI’m here for it",
">\n\nWell of course she does.\nKatie was one of Warren's students at Harvard Law.",
">\n\nOust? More like replace. There's been no response to her announcement. At least that I've seen.",
">\n\nWhich one is supposed to be 89? \n/s",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren is desperately trying to not get primary herself next time she runs."
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"Oust? Feinstein is running for re-election?! Oh c’mon!",
">\n\nAnyone in Feinstein's circle urging her to run again, are, quite frankly, more concerned about their own careers than the life and well-being of the Senator. It's cruelty for anyone in her circle to push her into running again, or not to tell her in no uncertain terms that she should not run and will not have their support if she does.",
">\n\nI wonder if anyone is pushing her to run, she has always come across as very stubborn and addicted to her seat of power when questioned by reporters.",
">\n\nThat's what I meant by \"tell her she should not run\". If she's insisting on it, her staffers should say, \"That's fine but I won't be on your team\".",
">\n\nI'm assuming even her kids are all retired at this point.\nHer grandkids must be near retirement at this point.\nEdit: she has only one child, who is 65.",
">\n\nI’ve seen speculation that it’s because women were told to have kids first then get a career in her younger years, leaving them behind their peers. As a result she’s really reluctant to back down because people tell her to. \nPelosi even seemed to plan this out, she had like 6 kids back to back and then stopped having them. She had an organized system for raising them as well.",
">\n\nPelosi will really go down as one of the greatest cat herders of all time.",
">\n\nYup. Many similarities between wandering, stubborn toddlers and headstrong congressional reps.",
">\n\nAs a former day care assistant, my toddlers were significantly better behaved and more level-headed than most Republican congressmen.",
">\n\nCleaner, too, I bet.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 74%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nSen. Dianne Feinstein's colleagues aren't waiting for her to formally announce her retirement from the U.S. Senate before backing would-be successors: Sen. Elizabeth Warren has put her \"Full support\" behind Rep. Katie Porter, the Orange Country-area lawmaker and Warren protégé running to replace the 89-year-old California senator.\nWarren's early embrace of Porter's candidacy is a de facto snub of Feinstein, but also a reflection of Warren and Porter's decades-long personal and professional relationship.\nWarren took Porter, herself an aspiring law professor, under her tutelage and hired her as a researcher for one of Warren's major bankruptcy projects.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Warren^#1 Porter^#2 Feinstein^#3 Law^#4 run^#5",
">\n\nKatie Porter is one of the few I've seen articulating problems well AND trying to help. She's smart and capable.",
">\n\n\nShe's smart and capable.\n\nDamn, the two things stopping her from being electable in the eyes of 60% of America",
">\n\nShe's a woman, so that's 3.",
">\n\n89-year-old and with dimming attic lights Feinstein. \nWhile I thank her for her service, the best exit Feinstein could hope for is to be replaced by the likes of Katie Porter.",
">\n\nAgreed. The thing I don’t get is, wouldn’t you want a retirement? Is not running again akin to dying for her?",
">\n\nI think she still has the option to just pass the torch by way of endorsement closer to the election, but to do so early might signal that she’s not performing the job well in the interim? \nDe Leon certainly tried to oust her when he took his shot last time but that doesn’t mean it’ll be necessary this time. Must also prove challenging trying to campaign with her early if she’s not actually able to field interview requests and the like.",
">\n\nDe Leon's campaign was so strange to me. Like, he basically just disappeared partway through",
">\n\nYeah, I think he finally understood how he wasn’t going to swing enough support to pull it off. I appreciated that it at least brought greater attention back to Feinstein and her need to go.",
">\n\nThe fact that de Leon sucks and is unfit for any office didn't help? He's barely clinging to his LA City Council seat after being caught on tape being a racist scumbag.",
">\n\nPorter would do a great job. That's a nice endorsement too. Warren knows her stuff. If you're ever having a bad day, look up the video of her taking down the CEO of Wells Fargo. Never gets old.",
">\n\nAges ago (like 03 or 04) I saw Warren on an episode of ‘frontline’ about the credit card industry, and remember thinking to myself, this person should be president. She’s one of America’s best.",
">\n\nI watched that documentary recently and it still holds up. She’s actually in a number of frontline docs re financial issues from that era because she knows her shit",
">\n\nRight? I feel like she knows her shit and is an advocate for the working class. I hate how left leaning people shit on her as a ‘snake’ or whatever. She has always been someone to respect and does her best to lift everyone up.",
">\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. Ultimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.",
">\n\n\nHer biggest issue ultimately ends up being her intelligence. She absolutely knows her stuff and somehow that's become a turn off for those with only a high school diploma or less. \n\nThis is actually wild, like the caricature of smug liberal looking down from the ivory tower that Fox News insists is real, but Ive always laughed off because Ive never met anyone on the left side of the spectrum who talks like this irl. \n“They’re too stupid to appreciate her brilliance” is probably not the kind of thing you wanna say out loud even if you believe it. And if you believe it? I don’t know what to say it’s just extremely bubble oriented and maybe you should try to talk to people in real life. Like even if you don’t agree with their reasons the fact is that you’re either hearing them and willfully misrepresenting their objections OR you haven’t actually bothered to learn what their opposition is all about. \n\nUltimately I think they just can't keep up with everything she's advocating for, and so they'd rather vote for someone they can feel more comfortable listening to because they don't feel as uninformed.\n\nDo you actually think this?",
">\n\nI think the statistics and polling that came out during her presidential primary bid say this more than I think it. For whatever reason she was most appealing to those who were college educated and less appealing to those who were not.",
">\n\nDo you recognize the distinction between the following?\n\nNon college educated voters tend to disfavor candidate X by A-Z% \n\nvs. \n\nNon college educated voters disfavor X because they’re too dumb to know better \n\nThe first is a factual statement based on measured attitudes of the public gleaned from professional designed surveys. It’s a numerical figure that’s measurable and testable. \nThe second is that factual piece of the first, plus your own speculation as to why, based on what makes sense to you from your own limited perspective. You are taking the fact piece from the measurable responses from the public, and inserting your own speculation wrt cause, to imply that the only conclusion is that it must be because her nonsupporters are too dumb to know what she’s even proposing and why it would be better for them. \nThat is not how you win converts to your cause of how to build a coalition. That’s how to give libs of TikTok or the similar type subreddits free content that makes liberals at large look like chucklefucks. Knock it off.",
">\n\nLook, I take your point, but you are also speculating a bit here as well, in that I am in any way trying to \"build a coalition\" or \"win converts\" here. The people that don't like her certainly weren't going about their day, strolling around Redditville, and suddenly having a lightbulb moment about their political views when happening upon my comment. I wasn't trying to sway hearts and minds, just add more context and color commentary to the discussion. And while I might not have a silver bullet survey that points to option B specifically, there are other studies that point to similar concepts very much being in play, such as those that identify the average Trump voter as having a reading level comparable to a typical 5th or 6th grader. I agree with you that it doesnt make for a great sound bite, but it doesn't seem like a great leap to suggest people pick candidates that are a representation of themselves, and that could include factors like level of education completed.",
">\n\nThe Senate should not be a retirement community",
">\n\nPorter is a remarkable legislator.",
">\n\nAnd, on the opposite extreme, we have Feinstein who ignored Christine Blasey Ford's alarmed communication when Brett Kavanaugh appeared on a list of possible SCOTUS nominees and we see how that ended.",
">\n\nAnd there was that time she told those kids who wanted climate action that they didn't vote for her and basically seemed insulted they had demands",
">\n\n\"Eh, I'm dead in the next 5-10 years. Get fucked, nerds.\"",
">\n\nUnbelievable that someone that ~~wants be~~ will be some 97 friggin years old at the end of her next term, refuses to just retire.",
">\n\nThere's nothing yet to indicate she's running again.",
">\n\nWrong. Feinstein filed the paperwork for reelection in 2024.",
">\n\nThat doesn't mean anything, they always file the paperwork because it's what let's them keep fundraising (to fund any events they want to do and, if they don't run, they can give to others in the party). They even explicitly stated it shouldn't be read as anyhting more than a technicality of election law and not an indication of her intent to run again.",
">\n\nI feel like admitting that should be grounds for pushback. Like what a system we live in where an elected official can openly say they’re manipulating election laws.",
">\n\nI wouldn't say it's really manipulating election law. There's just no provision in campaign finance for \"I want to fundraise to pay my political staff and have occasional political events while I'm in office\" so instead they have to be fundraising for \"reelection.\"",
">\n\nSo they aren’t being as fiscally responsible because they get to take advantage of loopholes in election law?",
">\n\nMy grandmother is 83. She gets what I tell her mixed up with other people mid conversation. She can’t go outside by herself. She needs someone home with her all the time. And you’re telling me a 89 year old is fit to be a senator for the biggest state in the country? Nah.",
">\n\nThat story about how Schumer had to tell her multiple times she can't be head of the judiciary committee is awful to hear. I'm glad one of my senators is a cool biker dude and the other knows it's time for her to hang up her brass knuckles.",
">\n\nThis is good news for those of us that want to see a Chuck Grassley / Dianne Feinstein 2024 presidential ticket. We need Dianne to focus on a presidential run, not a Senate run!",
">\n\nLol, fuck me. Don't give them any ideas.",
">\n\nWhoa hold old, Dianne was just starting to get into her groove!",
">\n\n2030: How Feinstein got her groove back.",
">\n\nSounds like it'd be really awkward at 4pm dinner in the Senate Cafeteria when they run into each other, if Feinstein could remember who Warren is or that either of them are senators.",
">\n\nFeinstein will be over 90 years old by the time of the last election. And she has not sounded great recently. And Senators serve 6 year terms.\nFrankly if she won’t bow out gracefully, she SHOULD be pushed out imo.",
">\n\nAt 89, if you need to be ousted, you should be. good god, get the fuck out",
">\n\nActually, she will be 91 when she's up for re-election again and her staff filled out the paperwork for her to run at 91.",
">\n\nFeinstein’s been fucking up since the Zodiac killer investigation.",
">\n\nThanks, Dan White.",
">\n\nI’ll never forgive her for hugging Lindsay Graham after the rapist judge’s scotus hearings.",
">\n\nPorter was one of Warren's Harvard Law students and one of her political protegees (like Boston mayor Michelle Wu).",
">\n\nFeinstein is nearly 90. Who the hell should be working at that age? Surely she has accumulated enough wealth to live comfortably for the rest of her life. She should welcome passing the torch to Porter. Honestly, she should retire now and allow Newsom to appoint Porter, just like when Harris became VP.",
">\n\nNewsom would likely appoint someone more moderate and corporate friendly. An effectively open election (no way is Feinstein competitive) is the best shot for a progressive to win.\nI will not be shocked if what gets Feinstein out of office is the her cohort wanting to try to head off a firebrand progressive winning the seat by giving an incumbency advantage to a bland moderate.",
">\n\ngood. the dinosaurs need to be shown the exit.",
">\n\nUgh. Feinstein needs to go.",
">\n\nThe only thing I don't like about Katie Porter running for Senate is that I want her to run for President.",
">\n\nA couple terms in the Senate would arguably make her a better Presidential candidate. I don't believe anybody has ever made the leap from the House to the White House.\nThere are a few that always run in the Primaries, of course. But they never end up the front runner... usually gone by Iowa or New Hampshire.\nHaving said that, I really think we need Katie Porter in either one house of Congress or the other for as long as possible, because she couldn't do the things we all love her for, as President. She would definitely be a great addition to the Senate because there are so few actual Progressives in that body, and Bernie may not run again himself when his term is over.",
">\n\nJames Garfield became president as a sitting member of the House.\nSo pretty damn rare.",
">\n\nAnd he was so busy eating lasagna that he almost didn’t win",
">\n\nHe wouldn't have even run if election day was on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.",
">\n\nI have no doubt this was sured up before the announcement. This is either a signal from top Dems that Feinstein shouldn't run or Feinstein has said she isn't behind closed doors. I imagine Porter has 3-5 more high profile endorsement to role out over the next week or so. She clearly has a well thought out plan and I would expect nothing less.",
">\n\nThe last time time Feinstein ran for re-election, the state party refused to endorse her and backed another Dem candidate. I can’t recall his name, which was the problem. She was re-elected handily.\nThey may not have said so publicly, but I can’t imagine Katy Porter would have tossed her hat in the ring without the blessing of the national and state party. She is well known and popular; I think she’ll do well.\nFeinstein should step aside, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to. We have open primaries, so they could end up running against each other in the full election.",
">\n\nDianne “the lights are on but no one’s home” Feinstein is an embarrassment of modern politics. Her only use at this point is standing close to Biden to make him look more cognitive to the people taking talking points from conservative media.",
">\n\nWho doesn’t? She was a good senator but her time has passed.",
">\n\nFeinstein's going to be very upset after an aide spends 30 minutes attempting to explain this to her",
">\n\nWe need more people like Porter representing us",
">\n\nY’know, one of the reasons we got our presidential term limits was to keep people from dying on the throne like the kings and queens ruling the lands our ancestors left. \nIt’s insane that an almost 90 year old is still in office.",
">\n\nI mean, does anyone like Dianne at this point?",
">\n\nI loved my grandmother at that age. Would I let her drive a car or get in one that she was driving? Hell no.",
">\n\nBut would you let her drive an entire country?",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to get her old ass out of the way.",
">\n\nI was in the 5th grade when Dianne Feinstein was first elected to the Senate. Now I am transitioning from \"grown-ass man\" to \"old fuck\" and I think it's time for some new blood to take her place.",
">\n\nNice! Already raising lots of cash and pulled a solid endorsement as well.",
">\n\nPlease anyone run against Feinstein and Pinocchio",
">\n\nIt's not a bid to \"oust\" Feinstein; Feinstein is retiring.",
">\n\nHippie California here. She needs to retire. Longest running records be damned.",
">\n\nI’d love the chance to vote for Katie potter for anything",
">\n\nThat’s way too old to be governing.",
">\n\nShe's doesn't have a bid to oust 89yo Feinstein. She has a bid to oust 91yo Feinstein. Just retire...",
">\n\nMakes sense, Warren was her professor at Harvard law.",
">\n\nI read that Barbara Lee is also planning to run for the seat. I like Lee, but she'd be 82 when she took office. We need new blood.",
">\n\nSomeone please wake up Feinstein and let her know",
">\n\nI don’t get the strategy in this endorsement. It seems like there’s going to be a primary from at least 3 of Barbra lee, Adam schiff, porter, newsome, and Eric swalwell. What’s the purpose in endorsing almost a year before the primaries even start? \nI like Elizabeth warren the person. But she doesn’t seem to have great timing / strategy.",
">\n\nUm… to keep those others from throwing their hats in the ring, what I’m gonna guess.",
">\n\nThat's a lovely history that they share, never knew she was Warren's former student, wow!",
">\n\nImagine thinking someone has your best interest and is in touch.. in their 90’s.",
">\n\nEffectively senile for at least 15 years, Feinstein’s career will end tragically late.",
">\n\nThese are the next steps towards a Porter presidency\nShe'll bust out that whiteboard the way Ross Perot would break out the pie charts",
">\n\nWe, as a nation, need Katie Porter.",
">\n\nNo one over the age of 75 should be in office, period.\nIt’s these fucking fossils who drag their feet and do more harm than good as it relates to progressive legislation.\nEdit: while we’re at it, no one under the age of 30 should be allowed into higher office, either. Sorry but your brain isn’t done maturing, yet.",
">\n\nI get the sentiment but its not entirely true. Look at Bernie.... and on the opposite side we have people like Margie Green and Lauren Boebert (young) that do a lot to fuck up things.\nWe should base whether they can be in office based on their performance...",
">\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.",
">\n\n\nEdge cases. Most old politicians are way out of touch with the average person.\n\nSo instead of generalizing we can make an informed decision based on their actions instead?",
">\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums. If anything, age maximums would be more useful.",
">\n\n\nWe already generalize with age minimums.\n\n2 bad things dont make a right thing.",
">\n\nI don’t think either are bad. I want my politicians old enough that they have had some life experience, but young enough that they have to deal with the consequences of their actions once they leave office. I also want term limits and a maximum of total years allowed in federal office.",
">\n\nArbitrary limits are kinda inherently undemocratic. You can just vote for somebody else.",
">\n\nOh please. If they can’t drive they shouldn’t be legislating things like raising retirement age. Who is pushing for that ? It definitely isn’t young people and it definitely isn’t benefitting ANY elderly.\nEdit: I said what I said. 90 year old people stopped caring well before 90. They have the funds to retire from their career there’s a reason they don’t.",
">\n\nI love the strategy of attempting to make me defend something I didn’t say by bringing up a vaguely related topic.",
">\n\nwe need a mandatory retirement age for those in government. something under 100 would be nice lol.",
">\n\nShould ask Feinstein to endorse her as well, she will probably do so…",
">\n\nMillennials: It’s time to stop letting our grandparents and great grandparents generation run shit. In fact, our parents generation needs to go too.",
">\n\nFeinstein needs to go. 89 is a joke",
">\n\nCan we stop with these \"Feinstein should retire. She's served her constituents well\" bullshit? She's pulling an RBG and putting her hubris ahead of anything else by forgetting that her job is to serve the people of California, not herself.",
">\n\nCouldn't you say the same about Porter? Her current district isn't a shoe-in for Dems but they like Porter. She could be giving that up for a seat that will most likely go Democrat",
">\n\nAt some point I'm sure Dianne Feinstein will also endorse Katie Porter.",
">\n\nDems need to be as focused on winning as the Repubs. It’s time for Diane Feinstein to retire.",
">\n\nI'm so excited for her.",
">\n\nShe is clearly suffering from Dementia. How does that not disqualify someone?",
">\n\nI have nothing specific against Senator Feinstein, she’s had an amazing career as a distinguished senator from one of the greatest states in the country. I can think of no better successor among CA reps than Rep. Porter. To be honest, Senator Feinstein seems to handle her age better than many of her younger peers, but there is also no better time to align the democratic party with younger generations. We need to inspire the youth to bring out the vote. So i very much support Rep. Porter’s bid.",
">\n\nI don't think you should be able to hold an office past 75. Not an HOA office and especially not one in Congress.",
">\n\nShe's 89? Prime of her life. I bet they can roll that ol' gal into Congress at 100.",
">\n\nKatie Porter has 2 Problems:\n\n\nBarbara Lee also threw her hat into the ring to become a Senator and would get the Black Vote as she is a leading proponent on racial equality. \n\n\nFeinstein will use her connections in establishment to win again so she can die in office. Leeching even more votes.\n\n\nShe needs to get more and more support, like Bernie and other progressives to show she is the one they support.",
">\n\nSo fucking old just retire already holy shit…",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nWhere exactly are Feinstein’s loved ones? Y’all need to be getting power of attorney and helping your damn relative, who is obviously unwell to everyone, and actually addressing her issues.",
">\n\nThanks Diane but go home and enjoy your family now time to pass the torch",
">\n\nOut with the old and in with the new.\nGo Katy!!!!",
">\n\nHonestly those pushing her to continue to run are committing elder abuse\nShe needs to retire, all you have to do is listen to her talk to see she's got dementia",
">\n\nI'll be honest, I didn't think Warren had it in her.",
">\n\n89?!?! Why are dinosaurs running the country?",
">\n\nWhy? You really want to know… because PEOPLE DON’T FUCKING SHOW UP FOR PRIMARIES. Don’t like the candidate quality, show the fuck up for the primary where those decisions are made. Primary turnout in the US in EVERY one is around 25%. Folks shouldn’t complain if they don’t show up.",
">\n\nFeinstein is a barely cognitive dinosaur, and those are the facts. This is not a bi partisan issue, it is a term limitations issue that needed to happen decades ago.\nI wish that I could argue that having an older political voice in office helps to keep the older demographic relevant because they would fight to keep them afloat through Social Security and welfare programs, but these old assholes In office have shown that they couldn't give a single iota of a fuck for their generation, so I say fuck it, and convince the older generation to embrace the new blood that may actually care about them.",
">\n\nCalifornia is an open primary right? So it could be a two rounder loss for Dianne",
">\n\nThis is like 20 years overdue",
">\n\nHope she wins. We need some new blood in Congress.",
">\n\nReminds me of storm Thurmond",
">\n\nDear old people with the means to retire. Have some faith in the young people. After all, it's their future. Go relax!",
">\n\nMrs. Feinstein should retire- but she may not know what to do with herself without the job she has held so much of her life. Way back when I used to work as a housekeeper in a retirement community, one of my clients was a lady who used to work in the Pentagon- and other long-time workers talked of the poor woman riding the elevator looking for her office.",
">\n\n\nUpper age limit to hold any government office. Elected or otherwise. Judicial included. Who’s with me.",
">\n\nI love Katie in the House, it’s been a treat to watch her reaming people. But…unseating Feinstein and squaring off against Texas’ Rafael? swoon. That is just too delicious.",
">\n\nDiane Feinstein was born in 1933. It’s time to hang it up",
">\n\nPeople here need a reality check. A lot of comments saying Feintsein is too old when her real problem is she's a neoliberal pro corporate dem from what is supposed to be a very left wing state. \nIf she was a leftist and Porter was challenging her from her right I wouldn't be supporting Porter, her age doesn't matter.",
">\n\nHer age matters when cognitive decline is getting in the way of her doing her job.",
">\n\nif her job is bending the working class over for corporations then maybe her being in cognitive decline is a good thing",
">\n\nGood point.",
">\n\nNo more politicians over 70.",
">\n\nNah, don't agree on that exact metric. What matters to me is results. What we need are legislators who will deliver the best.\nIt doesn't seem to me like Feinstein is delivering the best anymore, and it seems like Porter will deliver better.",
">\n\nI disagree and think we do need an age limit. Incumbent advantage is hard to overcome so it is difficult to replace someone regardless of their performance. Voters didn’t seem to care that Feinstein wasn’t delivering when she was in her 80s why would they change their behavior now that she is in her 90s?",
">\n\nBecause now they know she's not delivering. :-)\nJust replacing people when they hit a certain age as a legislator doesn't guarantee anything. Really all it would do would make legislators even more dependent on money and special interests to get in office.\nMoney is the real problem in politics. Age limits are term limits don't do anything to solve that.",
">\n\n\"Which one is Feinstein again?\"\n-Senator Feinstein",
">\n\nI'll never forget her ass kissing to Brett Kavanagh during his confirmation hearings..",
">\n\nSorry but why is an 89 yr old still working in government. Go the f home.",
">\n\nGet Feinstein out! We don't need lifers in Congress from either party!",
">\n\nDont forget Grassley. His first car was a horseless carriage.",
">\n\n89? Are you fucking kidding me??",
">\n\nplease get that senile old cow OUT. such an embarrassment to CA 🙏🏼",
">\n\nOust? Our media has become tabloid-crazy with these headers. She’s in her 80’s. Yes, she should have announced her retirement first? Maybe. I can’t with our current media. And putting these amazing women against each other by headline alone. Over it!",
">\n\nIn January 2021, Feinstein filed the initial Federal Election Commission paperwork needed to seek reelection in 2024, when she will be 91.",
">\n\nThat would make sense since Porter is Warren's protege.",
">\n\nBlame Feinstein for continuing to run, but also blame the Democratic party for backing her and voters for continuing to re-elect her. I don't believe for a second there hasn't been quality candidate in the last 10 years to primary her.",
">\n\nShe visited my elementary school. I was young then, she was old. Now I'm old. Ergo, she is now AT LEAST double-old! Very concerning.",
">\n\nAll politicians should have to retire at 72, that includes the president AND Elizabeth Warren! Way past age limits in this country.",
">\n\nWarren is so fake, she'll support people right up until the moment she thinks it's advantageous to drop that support for her own personal gain. Just wait until they both run in the same presidential primary, Warren will drive the stakes into Porter's back at the most opportune moment.",
">\n\nIsn't Porter Warren's protegee? Then again we did think that Sanders and Warren were incredibly close allies, they are still allies to an extent but not as close as many Americans thought.",
">\n\nNo idea but Warren rode Bernie's coattails for clout and then stabbed him in the back when it came time to show her true colors. Won't ever trust her word again when it comes to elections and her input.",
">\n\nWarren didn't stab anyone in the back. She never owed Bernie Sanders her loyalty. When it came time to endorse a candidate for president, she endorsed the person she thought was best suited for the job.",
">\n\nLived in CA for a bit and never ran into anyone who genuinely likes her...",
">\n\nOdd, not my experience.",
">\n\npotentially a Bay Area bubble?",
">\n\nNope.",
">\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure I was in a political bubble skewed by my choice of friends...",
">\n\nQuite possible.",
">\n\nCan someone just Photoshop her fake touching boobs on a plane so she's forced to retire?",
">\n\nCool, but I don’t know if that’s exactly the endorsement I’d want for any democratic seat…",
">\n\nWhy do you say that",
">\n\nWarren. The “Native American” who lost her own state running for President hahaha",
">\n\n89??! That is just too old. There has got to be some kind of cutoff for these people. 70 maybe. At least. As well as a pay cap. No politician should be making more money than teachers in their states.",
">\n\nCongressional pay is capped and hasn't actually been adjusted in almost 15 years now. Nobody is pursuing a job in Congress for the salary.",
">\n\nWithin the hour of Porter announcing her run, I already got a few spam texts asking for donation to her campaign. Fuck the spam.",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren shouldn't even be allowed to serve in public office given that she lied repeatedly about her ethnicity to scam votes.",
">\n\nDid she know it was a lie when she told people?",
">\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.",
">\n\n\nYes. I'm pretty sure she knew she was white.\n\nhow? DNA testing didn't exist, and her family said she had NA ancestry. and she does, just not as much as she thought.",
">\n\nWarren is running again in 2024. If elected, she'll be in office until she's in her 80's. \nRight or wrong, it seems the general consensus among Americans is that there should be fewer octogenarians in Congress. Seems like Warren may be out of touch on this issue.",
">\n\nBeing old isn’t the problem, it’s not being mentally and physically capable of doing the job. Which Feinstein can’t",
">\n\nIs it only me who finds politicians campaigning for higher office while serving a dereliction of duty?",
">\n\nPeople apply and are interviewed for job promotions constantly. The problem is campaign finance that dictates they need to be derelict to stay/gain power.",
">\n\nWarren/Porter 2024!",
">\n\nno.",
">\n\nYes",
">\n\nhuh-uh. \nI thought Liz would make a good VP years back (Obama) but she is not presidential material. Yes, even considering that putin put a life long criminal in the white house, still, Mrs. Warren is NOT who we need in the pilot's seat during the next 10 years.",
">\n\nWhy do we need another whitx Senator? Get an asian american or latino there instead.",
">\n\nHow about a non-religious person? Country is 30% \"none\" on religion, but almost no representation.",
">\n\nNow do biden",
">\n\nThe entire country decided against other, younger candidates.\nRemember how a TON of liberals voted for even older Bernie Sanders in the primaries? \nI voted for Pete B. I'll vote for him again. Don't be the idiot who pretends the American electorate voted out other options.",
">\n\nI'm sure Elizabeth Warren also takes no issue with Rep Santos. If you lie about one thing versus six things are you better? Fake Native American vs Fake Jew? Who should be ousted from Congress? For the record, I vote for both.",
">\n\nNobody cares, sitting bull.",
">\n\nI’m here for it",
">\n\nWell of course she does.\nKatie was one of Warren's students at Harvard Law.",
">\n\nOust? More like replace. There's been no response to her announcement. At least that I've seen.",
">\n\nWhich one is supposed to be 89? \n/s",
">\n\nElizabeth Warren is desperately trying to not get primary herself next time she runs.",
">\n\nAbsolutely a great choice!"
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He fits the mold. | [
"Why should anyone believe anything he says?",
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He is mold. | [
"Why should anyone believe anything he says?",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is the accumulated cluster f*** of what is now the Republican Party.",
">\n\nHe fits the mold."
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He's livin in the fridge | [
"Why should anyone believe anything he says?",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is the accumulated cluster f*** of what is now the Republican Party.",
">\n\nHe fits the mold.",
">\n\nHe is mold."
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You give mold a bad name | [
"Why should anyone believe anything he says?",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is the accumulated cluster f*** of what is now the Republican Party.",
">\n\nHe fits the mold.",
">\n\nHe is mold.",
">\n\nHe's livin in the fridge"
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If anyone has a link to the sheet I'd like to sign it.
edit: It's only for his constituents.
If he's your representative get this started. | [
"Why should anyone believe anything he says?",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is the accumulated cluster f*** of what is now the Republican Party.",
">\n\nHe fits the mold.",
">\n\nHe is mold.",
">\n\nHe's livin in the fridge",
">\n\nYou give mold a bad name"
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I think his constituents already picked him | [
"Why should anyone believe anything he says?",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is the accumulated cluster f*** of what is now the Republican Party.",
">\n\nHe fits the mold.",
">\n\nHe is mold.",
">\n\nHe's livin in the fridge",
">\n\nYou give mold a bad name",
">\n\nIf anyone has a link to the sheet I'd like to sign it.\nedit: It's only for his constituents. \nIf he's your representative get this started."
] |
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By “him” do you mean the George Santos they were misled to believe existed before Election Day, or the George Santos that exists in this reality? | [
"Why should anyone believe anything he says?",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is the accumulated cluster f*** of what is now the Republican Party.",
">\n\nHe fits the mold.",
">\n\nHe is mold.",
">\n\nHe's livin in the fridge",
">\n\nYou give mold a bad name",
">\n\nIf anyone has a link to the sheet I'd like to sign it.\nedit: It's only for his constituents. \nIf he's your representative get this started.",
">\n\nI think his constituents already picked him"
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That's disrespectful for the man who saved 120 Jewish people from holocaust. Carried them all to safety on his back. Heard one small child even dangled from his double chin. That's actually where the movie Cliffhanger got its start. | [
"Why should anyone believe anything he says?",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is the accumulated cluster f*** of what is now the Republican Party.",
">\n\nHe fits the mold.",
">\n\nHe is mold.",
">\n\nHe's livin in the fridge",
">\n\nYou give mold a bad name",
">\n\nIf anyone has a link to the sheet I'd like to sign it.\nedit: It's only for his constituents. \nIf he's your representative get this started.",
">\n\nI think his constituents already picked him",
">\n\nBy “him” do you mean the George Santos they were misled to believe existed before Election Day, or the George Santos that exists in this reality?"
] |
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Are we talking about George Santos, accomplished helicopter pilot? 20 years experience?
If you look over there that helicopter is called a Skippy. If you listen closely you can hear it go skip. .skip. . skip. | [
"Why should anyone believe anything he says?",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is the accumulated cluster f*** of what is now the Republican Party.",
">\n\nHe fits the mold.",
">\n\nHe is mold.",
">\n\nHe's livin in the fridge",
">\n\nYou give mold a bad name",
">\n\nIf anyone has a link to the sheet I'd like to sign it.\nedit: It's only for his constituents. \nIf he's your representative get this started.",
">\n\nI think his constituents already picked him",
">\n\nBy “him” do you mean the George Santos they were misled to believe existed before Election Day, or the George Santos that exists in this reality?",
">\n\nThat's disrespectful for the man who saved 120 Jewish people from holocaust. Carried them all to safety on his back. Heard one small child even dangled from his double chin. That's actually where the movie Cliffhanger got its start."
] |
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It can’t be the same one, can it? The George Santos that saved those trapped Chilean miners? Surely it can’t be. | [
"Why should anyone believe anything he says?",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is the accumulated cluster f*** of what is now the Republican Party.",
">\n\nHe fits the mold.",
">\n\nHe is mold.",
">\n\nHe's livin in the fridge",
">\n\nYou give mold a bad name",
">\n\nIf anyone has a link to the sheet I'd like to sign it.\nedit: It's only for his constituents. \nIf he's your representative get this started.",
">\n\nI think his constituents already picked him",
">\n\nBy “him” do you mean the George Santos they were misled to believe existed before Election Day, or the George Santos that exists in this reality?",
">\n\nThat's disrespectful for the man who saved 120 Jewish people from holocaust. Carried them all to safety on his back. Heard one small child even dangled from his double chin. That's actually where the movie Cliffhanger got its start.",
">\n\nAre we talking about George Santos, accomplished helicopter pilot? 20 years experience? \nIf you look over there that helicopter is called a Skippy. If you listen closely you can hear it go skip. .skip. . skip."
] |
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The same George Santos that wrote the constitution of the United States of America? | [
"Why should anyone believe anything he says?",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is the accumulated cluster f*** of what is now the Republican Party.",
">\n\nHe fits the mold.",
">\n\nHe is mold.",
">\n\nHe's livin in the fridge",
">\n\nYou give mold a bad name",
">\n\nIf anyone has a link to the sheet I'd like to sign it.\nedit: It's only for his constituents. \nIf he's your representative get this started.",
">\n\nI think his constituents already picked him",
">\n\nBy “him” do you mean the George Santos they were misled to believe existed before Election Day, or the George Santos that exists in this reality?",
">\n\nThat's disrespectful for the man who saved 120 Jewish people from holocaust. Carried them all to safety on his back. Heard one small child even dangled from his double chin. That's actually where the movie Cliffhanger got its start.",
">\n\nAre we talking about George Santos, accomplished helicopter pilot? 20 years experience? \nIf you look over there that helicopter is called a Skippy. If you listen closely you can hear it go skip. .skip. . skip.",
">\n\nIt can’t be the same one, can it? The George Santos that saved those trapped Chilean miners? Surely it can’t be."
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Well George, consider me 1/142000th | [
"Why should anyone believe anything he says?",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is the accumulated cluster f*** of what is now the Republican Party.",
">\n\nHe fits the mold.",
">\n\nHe is mold.",
">\n\nHe's livin in the fridge",
">\n\nYou give mold a bad name",
">\n\nIf anyone has a link to the sheet I'd like to sign it.\nedit: It's only for his constituents. \nIf he's your representative get this started.",
">\n\nI think his constituents already picked him",
">\n\nBy “him” do you mean the George Santos they were misled to believe existed before Election Day, or the George Santos that exists in this reality?",
">\n\nThat's disrespectful for the man who saved 120 Jewish people from holocaust. Carried them all to safety on his back. Heard one small child even dangled from his double chin. That's actually where the movie Cliffhanger got its start.",
">\n\nAre we talking about George Santos, accomplished helicopter pilot? 20 years experience? \nIf you look over there that helicopter is called a Skippy. If you listen closely you can hear it go skip. .skip. . skip.",
">\n\nIt can’t be the same one, can it? The George Santos that saved those trapped Chilean miners? Surely it can’t be.",
">\n\nThe same George Santos that wrote the constitution of the United States of America?"
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I'm 2! I'll move to his district | [
"Why should anyone believe anything he says?",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is the accumulated cluster f*** of what is now the Republican Party.",
">\n\nHe fits the mold.",
">\n\nHe is mold.",
">\n\nHe's livin in the fridge",
">\n\nYou give mold a bad name",
">\n\nIf anyone has a link to the sheet I'd like to sign it.\nedit: It's only for his constituents. \nIf he's your representative get this started.",
">\n\nI think his constituents already picked him",
">\n\nBy “him” do you mean the George Santos they were misled to believe existed before Election Day, or the George Santos that exists in this reality?",
">\n\nThat's disrespectful for the man who saved 120 Jewish people from holocaust. Carried them all to safety on his back. Heard one small child even dangled from his double chin. That's actually where the movie Cliffhanger got its start.",
">\n\nAre we talking about George Santos, accomplished helicopter pilot? 20 years experience? \nIf you look over there that helicopter is called a Skippy. If you listen closely you can hear it go skip. .skip. . skip.",
">\n\nIt can’t be the same one, can it? The George Santos that saved those trapped Chilean miners? Surely it can’t be.",
">\n\nThe same George Santos that wrote the constitution of the United States of America?",
">\n\nWell George, consider me 1/142000th"
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Bring your wallet, that part of Long Island is pricey | [
"Why should anyone believe anything he says?",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is the accumulated cluster f*** of what is now the Republican Party.",
">\n\nHe fits the mold.",
">\n\nHe is mold.",
">\n\nHe's livin in the fridge",
">\n\nYou give mold a bad name",
">\n\nIf anyone has a link to the sheet I'd like to sign it.\nedit: It's only for his constituents. \nIf he's your representative get this started.",
">\n\nI think his constituents already picked him",
">\n\nBy “him” do you mean the George Santos they were misled to believe existed before Election Day, or the George Santos that exists in this reality?",
">\n\nThat's disrespectful for the man who saved 120 Jewish people from holocaust. Carried them all to safety on his back. Heard one small child even dangled from his double chin. That's actually where the movie Cliffhanger got its start.",
">\n\nAre we talking about George Santos, accomplished helicopter pilot? 20 years experience? \nIf you look over there that helicopter is called a Skippy. If you listen closely you can hear it go skip. .skip. . skip.",
">\n\nIt can’t be the same one, can it? The George Santos that saved those trapped Chilean miners? Surely it can’t be.",
">\n\nThe same George Santos that wrote the constitution of the United States of America?",
">\n\nWell George, consider me 1/142000th",
">\n\nI'm 2! I'll move to his district"
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Unfortunate part in all this is that area leans slightly democratic even with the rich people there.
Great Neck is a nice area but fuck driving there. | [
"Why should anyone believe anything he says?",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is the accumulated cluster f*** of what is now the Republican Party.",
">\n\nHe fits the mold.",
">\n\nHe is mold.",
">\n\nHe's livin in the fridge",
">\n\nYou give mold a bad name",
">\n\nIf anyone has a link to the sheet I'd like to sign it.\nedit: It's only for his constituents. \nIf he's your representative get this started.",
">\n\nI think his constituents already picked him",
">\n\nBy “him” do you mean the George Santos they were misled to believe existed before Election Day, or the George Santos that exists in this reality?",
">\n\nThat's disrespectful for the man who saved 120 Jewish people from holocaust. Carried them all to safety on his back. Heard one small child even dangled from his double chin. That's actually where the movie Cliffhanger got its start.",
">\n\nAre we talking about George Santos, accomplished helicopter pilot? 20 years experience? \nIf you look over there that helicopter is called a Skippy. If you listen closely you can hear it go skip. .skip. . skip.",
">\n\nIt can’t be the same one, can it? The George Santos that saved those trapped Chilean miners? Surely it can’t be.",
">\n\nThe same George Santos that wrote the constitution of the United States of America?",
">\n\nWell George, consider me 1/142000th",
">\n\nI'm 2! I'll move to his district",
">\n\nBring your wallet, that part of Long Island is pricey"
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And fuck Manhasset, always acting like they're better than everyone else. | [
"Why should anyone believe anything he says?",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is the accumulated cluster f*** of what is now the Republican Party.",
">\n\nHe fits the mold.",
">\n\nHe is mold.",
">\n\nHe's livin in the fridge",
">\n\nYou give mold a bad name",
">\n\nIf anyone has a link to the sheet I'd like to sign it.\nedit: It's only for his constituents. \nIf he's your representative get this started.",
">\n\nI think his constituents already picked him",
">\n\nBy “him” do you mean the George Santos they were misled to believe existed before Election Day, or the George Santos that exists in this reality?",
">\n\nThat's disrespectful for the man who saved 120 Jewish people from holocaust. Carried them all to safety on his back. Heard one small child even dangled from his double chin. That's actually where the movie Cliffhanger got its start.",
">\n\nAre we talking about George Santos, accomplished helicopter pilot? 20 years experience? \nIf you look over there that helicopter is called a Skippy. If you listen closely you can hear it go skip. .skip. . skip.",
">\n\nIt can’t be the same one, can it? The George Santos that saved those trapped Chilean miners? Surely it can’t be.",
">\n\nThe same George Santos that wrote the constitution of the United States of America?",
">\n\nWell George, consider me 1/142000th",
">\n\nI'm 2! I'll move to his district",
">\n\nBring your wallet, that part of Long Island is pricey",
">\n\nUnfortunate part in all this is that area leans slightly democratic even with the rich people there. \nGreat Neck is a nice area but fuck driving there."
] |
>
Glen Cove isn't half bad. Also hometown of Ashanti!
Edit, not Aaliyah | [
"Why should anyone believe anything he says?",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is the accumulated cluster f*** of what is now the Republican Party.",
">\n\nHe fits the mold.",
">\n\nHe is mold.",
">\n\nHe's livin in the fridge",
">\n\nYou give mold a bad name",
">\n\nIf anyone has a link to the sheet I'd like to sign it.\nedit: It's only for his constituents. \nIf he's your representative get this started.",
">\n\nI think his constituents already picked him",
">\n\nBy “him” do you mean the George Santos they were misled to believe existed before Election Day, or the George Santos that exists in this reality?",
">\n\nThat's disrespectful for the man who saved 120 Jewish people from holocaust. Carried them all to safety on his back. Heard one small child even dangled from his double chin. That's actually where the movie Cliffhanger got its start.",
">\n\nAre we talking about George Santos, accomplished helicopter pilot? 20 years experience? \nIf you look over there that helicopter is called a Skippy. If you listen closely you can hear it go skip. .skip. . skip.",
">\n\nIt can’t be the same one, can it? The George Santos that saved those trapped Chilean miners? Surely it can’t be.",
">\n\nThe same George Santos that wrote the constitution of the United States of America?",
">\n\nWell George, consider me 1/142000th",
">\n\nI'm 2! I'll move to his district",
">\n\nBring your wallet, that part of Long Island is pricey",
">\n\nUnfortunate part in all this is that area leans slightly democratic even with the rich people there. \nGreat Neck is a nice area but fuck driving there.",
">\n\nAnd fuck Manhasset, always acting like they're better than everyone else."
] |
>
Close.. Ashanti is from Glen Cove. She even shot a few music videos around town. | [
"Why should anyone believe anything he says?",
">\n\nGeorge Santos is the accumulated cluster f*** of what is now the Republican Party.",
">\n\nHe fits the mold.",
">\n\nHe is mold.",
">\n\nHe's livin in the fridge",
">\n\nYou give mold a bad name",
">\n\nIf anyone has a link to the sheet I'd like to sign it.\nedit: It's only for his constituents. \nIf he's your representative get this started.",
">\n\nI think his constituents already picked him",
">\n\nBy “him” do you mean the George Santos they were misled to believe existed before Election Day, or the George Santos that exists in this reality?",
">\n\nThat's disrespectful for the man who saved 120 Jewish people from holocaust. Carried them all to safety on his back. Heard one small child even dangled from his double chin. That's actually where the movie Cliffhanger got its start.",
">\n\nAre we talking about George Santos, accomplished helicopter pilot? 20 years experience? \nIf you look over there that helicopter is called a Skippy. If you listen closely you can hear it go skip. .skip. . skip.",
">\n\nIt can’t be the same one, can it? The George Santos that saved those trapped Chilean miners? Surely it can’t be.",
">\n\nThe same George Santos that wrote the constitution of the United States of America?",
">\n\nWell George, consider me 1/142000th",
">\n\nI'm 2! I'll move to his district",
">\n\nBring your wallet, that part of Long Island is pricey",
">\n\nUnfortunate part in all this is that area leans slightly democratic even with the rich people there. \nGreat Neck is a nice area but fuck driving there.",
">\n\nAnd fuck Manhasset, always acting like they're better than everyone else.",
">\n\nGlen Cove isn't half bad. Also hometown of Ashanti!\nEdit, not Aaliyah"
] |
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