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[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery..." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company.." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours.." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake.", ">\n\nI wonder how much Turkey and Syria's dear friend, Vladimir Putin, will donate to help them with recovery. Any cash for humanitarian aid, or just for weapons to use agains Ukraine? Hmmm." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake.", ">\n\nI wonder how much Turkey and Syria's dear friend, Vladimir Putin, will donate to help them with recovery. Any cash for humanitarian aid, or just for weapons to use agains Ukraine? Hmmm.", ">\n\nFor what it's worth Putin actually said he would help Turkey with this, and Russian soldiers are in Syria right now digging people out.\nWouldn't it be great if about half a million Russian soldiers were free right now, they could dig people out of the rubble instead of burying Ukrainians in it." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake.", ">\n\nI wonder how much Turkey and Syria's dear friend, Vladimir Putin, will donate to help them with recovery. Any cash for humanitarian aid, or just for weapons to use agains Ukraine? Hmmm.", ">\n\nFor what it's worth Putin actually said he would help Turkey with this, and Russian soldiers are in Syria right now digging people out.\nWouldn't it be great if about half a million Russian soldiers were free right now, they could dig people out of the rubble instead of burying Ukrainians in it.", ">\n\nYou hit the nail right on the head. So much power and energy applied to a disaster like this earthquake would be a game changer." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake.", ">\n\nI wonder how much Turkey and Syria's dear friend, Vladimir Putin, will donate to help them with recovery. Any cash for humanitarian aid, or just for weapons to use agains Ukraine? Hmmm.", ">\n\nFor what it's worth Putin actually said he would help Turkey with this, and Russian soldiers are in Syria right now digging people out.\nWouldn't it be great if about half a million Russian soldiers were free right now, they could dig people out of the rubble instead of burying Ukrainians in it.", ">\n\nYou hit the nail right on the head. So much power and energy applied to a disaster like this earthquake would be a game changer.", ">\n\nFun fact: Turkey, the bird, is named after the place. If we're saying Türkiye for the place, it's now türkiye for dinner as well" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake.", ">\n\nI wonder how much Turkey and Syria's dear friend, Vladimir Putin, will donate to help them with recovery. Any cash for humanitarian aid, or just for weapons to use agains Ukraine? Hmmm.", ">\n\nFor what it's worth Putin actually said he would help Turkey with this, and Russian soldiers are in Syria right now digging people out.\nWouldn't it be great if about half a million Russian soldiers were free right now, they could dig people out of the rubble instead of burying Ukrainians in it.", ">\n\nYou hit the nail right on the head. So much power and energy applied to a disaster like this earthquake would be a game changer.", ">\n\nFun fact: Turkey, the bird, is named after the place. If we're saying Türkiye for the place, it's now türkiye for dinner as well", ">\n\nSweden and Finland should take this opportunity to help turkey as much as possible" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake.", ">\n\nI wonder how much Turkey and Syria's dear friend, Vladimir Putin, will donate to help them with recovery. Any cash for humanitarian aid, or just for weapons to use agains Ukraine? Hmmm.", ">\n\nFor what it's worth Putin actually said he would help Turkey with this, and Russian soldiers are in Syria right now digging people out.\nWouldn't it be great if about half a million Russian soldiers were free right now, they could dig people out of the rubble instead of burying Ukrainians in it.", ">\n\nYou hit the nail right on the head. So much power and energy applied to a disaster like this earthquake would be a game changer.", ">\n\nFun fact: Turkey, the bird, is named after the place. If we're saying Türkiye for the place, it's now türkiye for dinner as well", ">\n\nSweden and Finland should take this opportunity to help turkey as much as possible", ">\n\nHow about help to help instead of turning it political. Whenever people are dying needlessly, helping them shouldn’t ever be a political move. People need to stop making this point." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake.", ">\n\nI wonder how much Turkey and Syria's dear friend, Vladimir Putin, will donate to help them with recovery. Any cash for humanitarian aid, or just for weapons to use agains Ukraine? Hmmm.", ">\n\nFor what it's worth Putin actually said he would help Turkey with this, and Russian soldiers are in Syria right now digging people out.\nWouldn't it be great if about half a million Russian soldiers were free right now, they could dig people out of the rubble instead of burying Ukrainians in it.", ">\n\nYou hit the nail right on the head. So much power and energy applied to a disaster like this earthquake would be a game changer.", ">\n\nFun fact: Turkey, the bird, is named after the place. If we're saying Türkiye for the place, it's now türkiye for dinner as well", ">\n\nSweden and Finland should take this opportunity to help turkey as much as possible", ">\n\nHow about help to help instead of turning it political. Whenever people are dying needlessly, helping them shouldn’t ever be a political move. People need to stop making this point.", ">\n\nThere is no \"ü\" in English. Can we please post English.\nIt's \"Turkey\"" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake.", ">\n\nI wonder how much Turkey and Syria's dear friend, Vladimir Putin, will donate to help them with recovery. Any cash for humanitarian aid, or just for weapons to use agains Ukraine? Hmmm.", ">\n\nFor what it's worth Putin actually said he would help Turkey with this, and Russian soldiers are in Syria right now digging people out.\nWouldn't it be great if about half a million Russian soldiers were free right now, they could dig people out of the rubble instead of burying Ukrainians in it.", ">\n\nYou hit the nail right on the head. So much power and energy applied to a disaster like this earthquake would be a game changer.", ">\n\nFun fact: Turkey, the bird, is named after the place. If we're saying Türkiye for the place, it's now türkiye for dinner as well", ">\n\nSweden and Finland should take this opportunity to help turkey as much as possible", ">\n\nHow about help to help instead of turning it political. Whenever people are dying needlessly, helping them shouldn’t ever be a political move. People need to stop making this point.", ">\n\nThere is no \"ü\" in English. Can we please post English.\nIt's \"Turkey\"", ">\n\nSweden and Finland just enjoying the irony, right now. Oh wait, no they're not. They have more class than that." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake.", ">\n\nI wonder how much Turkey and Syria's dear friend, Vladimir Putin, will donate to help them with recovery. Any cash for humanitarian aid, or just for weapons to use agains Ukraine? Hmmm.", ">\n\nFor what it's worth Putin actually said he would help Turkey with this, and Russian soldiers are in Syria right now digging people out.\nWouldn't it be great if about half a million Russian soldiers were free right now, they could dig people out of the rubble instead of burying Ukrainians in it.", ">\n\nYou hit the nail right on the head. So much power and energy applied to a disaster like this earthquake would be a game changer.", ">\n\nFun fact: Turkey, the bird, is named after the place. If we're saying Türkiye for the place, it's now türkiye for dinner as well", ">\n\nSweden and Finland should take this opportunity to help turkey as much as possible", ">\n\nHow about help to help instead of turning it political. Whenever people are dying needlessly, helping them shouldn’t ever be a political move. People need to stop making this point.", ">\n\nThere is no \"ü\" in English. Can we please post English.\nIt's \"Turkey\"", ">\n\nSweden and Finland just enjoying the irony, right now. Oh wait, no they're not. They have more class than that.", ">\n\nI'll bet they would." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake.", ">\n\nI wonder how much Turkey and Syria's dear friend, Vladimir Putin, will donate to help them with recovery. Any cash for humanitarian aid, or just for weapons to use agains Ukraine? Hmmm.", ">\n\nFor what it's worth Putin actually said he would help Turkey with this, and Russian soldiers are in Syria right now digging people out.\nWouldn't it be great if about half a million Russian soldiers were free right now, they could dig people out of the rubble instead of burying Ukrainians in it.", ">\n\nYou hit the nail right on the head. So much power and energy applied to a disaster like this earthquake would be a game changer.", ">\n\nFun fact: Turkey, the bird, is named after the place. If we're saying Türkiye for the place, it's now türkiye for dinner as well", ">\n\nSweden and Finland should take this opportunity to help turkey as much as possible", ">\n\nHow about help to help instead of turning it political. Whenever people are dying needlessly, helping them shouldn’t ever be a political move. People need to stop making this point.", ">\n\nThere is no \"ü\" in English. Can we please post English.\nIt's \"Turkey\"", ">\n\nSweden and Finland just enjoying the irony, right now. Oh wait, no they're not. They have more class than that.", ">\n\nI'll bet they would.", ">\n\nI read Turkey send armored vehicles, drones and aid packages since the beginning of the war" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake.", ">\n\nI wonder how much Turkey and Syria's dear friend, Vladimir Putin, will donate to help them with recovery. Any cash for humanitarian aid, or just for weapons to use agains Ukraine? Hmmm.", ">\n\nFor what it's worth Putin actually said he would help Turkey with this, and Russian soldiers are in Syria right now digging people out.\nWouldn't it be great if about half a million Russian soldiers were free right now, they could dig people out of the rubble instead of burying Ukrainians in it.", ">\n\nYou hit the nail right on the head. So much power and energy applied to a disaster like this earthquake would be a game changer.", ">\n\nFun fact: Turkey, the bird, is named after the place. If we're saying Türkiye for the place, it's now türkiye for dinner as well", ">\n\nSweden and Finland should take this opportunity to help turkey as much as possible", ">\n\nHow about help to help instead of turning it political. Whenever people are dying needlessly, helping them shouldn’t ever be a political move. People need to stop making this point.", ">\n\nThere is no \"ü\" in English. Can we please post English.\nIt's \"Turkey\"", ">\n\nSweden and Finland just enjoying the irony, right now. Oh wait, no they're not. They have more class than that.", ">\n\nI'll bet they would.", ">\n\nI read Turkey send armored vehicles, drones and aid packages since the beginning of the war", ">\n\nearly on he sent the Backktar (sp) drone...with great results...that was almost a year ago, i havent heard a thing since though...compared to the rest of NATO allies..allowing refugees in and on going material support" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake.", ">\n\nI wonder how much Turkey and Syria's dear friend, Vladimir Putin, will donate to help them with recovery. Any cash for humanitarian aid, or just for weapons to use agains Ukraine? Hmmm.", ">\n\nFor what it's worth Putin actually said he would help Turkey with this, and Russian soldiers are in Syria right now digging people out.\nWouldn't it be great if about half a million Russian soldiers were free right now, they could dig people out of the rubble instead of burying Ukrainians in it.", ">\n\nYou hit the nail right on the head. So much power and energy applied to a disaster like this earthquake would be a game changer.", ">\n\nFun fact: Turkey, the bird, is named after the place. If we're saying Türkiye for the place, it's now türkiye for dinner as well", ">\n\nSweden and Finland should take this opportunity to help turkey as much as possible", ">\n\nHow about help to help instead of turning it political. Whenever people are dying needlessly, helping them shouldn’t ever be a political move. People need to stop making this point.", ">\n\nThere is no \"ü\" in English. Can we please post English.\nIt's \"Turkey\"", ">\n\nSweden and Finland just enjoying the irony, right now. Oh wait, no they're not. They have more class than that.", ">\n\nI'll bet they would.", ">\n\nI read Turkey send armored vehicles, drones and aid packages since the beginning of the war", ">\n\nearly on he sent the Backktar (sp) drone...with great results...that was almost a year ago, i havent heard a thing since though...compared to the rest of NATO allies..allowing refugees in and on going material support", ">\n\nSent cluster bombs recently as well." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake.", ">\n\nI wonder how much Turkey and Syria's dear friend, Vladimir Putin, will donate to help them with recovery. Any cash for humanitarian aid, or just for weapons to use agains Ukraine? Hmmm.", ">\n\nFor what it's worth Putin actually said he would help Turkey with this, and Russian soldiers are in Syria right now digging people out.\nWouldn't it be great if about half a million Russian soldiers were free right now, they could dig people out of the rubble instead of burying Ukrainians in it.", ">\n\nYou hit the nail right on the head. So much power and energy applied to a disaster like this earthquake would be a game changer.", ">\n\nFun fact: Turkey, the bird, is named after the place. If we're saying Türkiye for the place, it's now türkiye for dinner as well", ">\n\nSweden and Finland should take this opportunity to help turkey as much as possible", ">\n\nHow about help to help instead of turning it political. Whenever people are dying needlessly, helping them shouldn’t ever be a political move. People need to stop making this point.", ">\n\nThere is no \"ü\" in English. Can we please post English.\nIt's \"Turkey\"", ">\n\nSweden and Finland just enjoying the irony, right now. Oh wait, no they're not. They have more class than that.", ">\n\nI'll bet they would.", ">\n\nI read Turkey send armored vehicles, drones and aid packages since the beginning of the war", ">\n\nearly on he sent the Backktar (sp) drone...with great results...that was almost a year ago, i havent heard a thing since though...compared to the rest of NATO allies..allowing refugees in and on going material support", ">\n\nSent cluster bombs recently as well.", ">\n\nI'd like to see Sweden and Finland lead the first responders assitance to turkey." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake.", ">\n\nI wonder how much Turkey and Syria's dear friend, Vladimir Putin, will donate to help them with recovery. Any cash for humanitarian aid, or just for weapons to use agains Ukraine? Hmmm.", ">\n\nFor what it's worth Putin actually said he would help Turkey with this, and Russian soldiers are in Syria right now digging people out.\nWouldn't it be great if about half a million Russian soldiers were free right now, they could dig people out of the rubble instead of burying Ukrainians in it.", ">\n\nYou hit the nail right on the head. So much power and energy applied to a disaster like this earthquake would be a game changer.", ">\n\nFun fact: Turkey, the bird, is named after the place. If we're saying Türkiye for the place, it's now türkiye for dinner as well", ">\n\nSweden and Finland should take this opportunity to help turkey as much as possible", ">\n\nHow about help to help instead of turning it political. Whenever people are dying needlessly, helping them shouldn’t ever be a political move. People need to stop making this point.", ">\n\nThere is no \"ü\" in English. Can we please post English.\nIt's \"Turkey\"", ">\n\nSweden and Finland just enjoying the irony, right now. Oh wait, no they're not. They have more class than that.", ">\n\nI'll bet they would.", ">\n\nI read Turkey send armored vehicles, drones and aid packages since the beginning of the war", ">\n\nearly on he sent the Backktar (sp) drone...with great results...that was almost a year ago, i havent heard a thing since though...compared to the rest of NATO allies..allowing refugees in and on going material support", ">\n\nSent cluster bombs recently as well.", ">\n\nI'd like to see Sweden and Finland lead the first responders assitance to turkey.", ">\n\nFinland and Sweden should send a bulkload of aid right about now." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake.", ">\n\nI wonder how much Turkey and Syria's dear friend, Vladimir Putin, will donate to help them with recovery. Any cash for humanitarian aid, or just for weapons to use agains Ukraine? Hmmm.", ">\n\nFor what it's worth Putin actually said he would help Turkey with this, and Russian soldiers are in Syria right now digging people out.\nWouldn't it be great if about half a million Russian soldiers were free right now, they could dig people out of the rubble instead of burying Ukrainians in it.", ">\n\nYou hit the nail right on the head. So much power and energy applied to a disaster like this earthquake would be a game changer.", ">\n\nFun fact: Turkey, the bird, is named after the place. If we're saying Türkiye for the place, it's now türkiye for dinner as well", ">\n\nSweden and Finland should take this opportunity to help turkey as much as possible", ">\n\nHow about help to help instead of turning it political. Whenever people are dying needlessly, helping them shouldn’t ever be a political move. People need to stop making this point.", ">\n\nThere is no \"ü\" in English. Can we please post English.\nIt's \"Turkey\"", ">\n\nSweden and Finland just enjoying the irony, right now. Oh wait, no they're not. They have more class than that.", ">\n\nI'll bet they would.", ">\n\nI read Turkey send armored vehicles, drones and aid packages since the beginning of the war", ">\n\nearly on he sent the Backktar (sp) drone...with great results...that was almost a year ago, i havent heard a thing since though...compared to the rest of NATO allies..allowing refugees in and on going material support", ">\n\nSent cluster bombs recently as well.", ">\n\nI'd like to see Sweden and Finland lead the first responders assitance to turkey.", ">\n\nFinland and Sweden should send a bulkload of aid right about now.", ">\n\nCould we just not have anything bad happen for a minute?" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake.", ">\n\nI wonder how much Turkey and Syria's dear friend, Vladimir Putin, will donate to help them with recovery. Any cash for humanitarian aid, or just for weapons to use agains Ukraine? Hmmm.", ">\n\nFor what it's worth Putin actually said he would help Turkey with this, and Russian soldiers are in Syria right now digging people out.\nWouldn't it be great if about half a million Russian soldiers were free right now, they could dig people out of the rubble instead of burying Ukrainians in it.", ">\n\nYou hit the nail right on the head. So much power and energy applied to a disaster like this earthquake would be a game changer.", ">\n\nFun fact: Turkey, the bird, is named after the place. If we're saying Türkiye for the place, it's now türkiye for dinner as well", ">\n\nSweden and Finland should take this opportunity to help turkey as much as possible", ">\n\nHow about help to help instead of turning it political. Whenever people are dying needlessly, helping them shouldn’t ever be a political move. People need to stop making this point.", ">\n\nThere is no \"ü\" in English. Can we please post English.\nIt's \"Turkey\"", ">\n\nSweden and Finland just enjoying the irony, right now. Oh wait, no they're not. They have more class than that.", ">\n\nI'll bet they would.", ">\n\nI read Turkey send armored vehicles, drones and aid packages since the beginning of the war", ">\n\nearly on he sent the Backktar (sp) drone...with great results...that was almost a year ago, i havent heard a thing since though...compared to the rest of NATO allies..allowing refugees in and on going material support", ">\n\nSent cluster bombs recently as well.", ">\n\nI'd like to see Sweden and Finland lead the first responders assitance to turkey.", ">\n\nFinland and Sweden should send a bulkload of aid right about now.", ">\n\nCould we just not have anything bad happen for a minute?", ">\n\nNATO allies.... Including Sweden?" ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake.", ">\n\nI wonder how much Turkey and Syria's dear friend, Vladimir Putin, will donate to help them with recovery. Any cash for humanitarian aid, or just for weapons to use agains Ukraine? Hmmm.", ">\n\nFor what it's worth Putin actually said he would help Turkey with this, and Russian soldiers are in Syria right now digging people out.\nWouldn't it be great if about half a million Russian soldiers were free right now, they could dig people out of the rubble instead of burying Ukrainians in it.", ">\n\nYou hit the nail right on the head. So much power and energy applied to a disaster like this earthquake would be a game changer.", ">\n\nFun fact: Turkey, the bird, is named after the place. If we're saying Türkiye for the place, it's now türkiye for dinner as well", ">\n\nSweden and Finland should take this opportunity to help turkey as much as possible", ">\n\nHow about help to help instead of turning it political. Whenever people are dying needlessly, helping them shouldn’t ever be a political move. People need to stop making this point.", ">\n\nThere is no \"ü\" in English. Can we please post English.\nIt's \"Turkey\"", ">\n\nSweden and Finland just enjoying the irony, right now. Oh wait, no they're not. They have more class than that.", ">\n\nI'll bet they would.", ">\n\nI read Turkey send armored vehicles, drones and aid packages since the beginning of the war", ">\n\nearly on he sent the Backktar (sp) drone...with great results...that was almost a year ago, i havent heard a thing since though...compared to the rest of NATO allies..allowing refugees in and on going material support", ">\n\nSent cluster bombs recently as well.", ">\n\nI'd like to see Sweden and Finland lead the first responders assitance to turkey.", ">\n\nFinland and Sweden should send a bulkload of aid right about now.", ">\n\nCould we just not have anything bad happen for a minute?", ">\n\nNATO allies.... Including Sweden?", ">\n\nYes. Including Sweden and Finland." ]

[ "It's almost like being in a really cool coalition has benefits", ">\n\nOf course, and you can repay the favour by approving the new members already.", ">\n\nFinland, Sweden, AND Ukraine all jumped to help them.... Ukraine who is constantly being opposed by Erdogan and is in the middle of being invaded is rushing to help them...\nErdogan is going to be in quite a bind diplomatically in a little bit.. not to mention that this disaster will CRIPPLE their economy (turkey just lost all its bargaining chips, they need MASSIVE amounts of outside aid, that aid does not come without strings - Edit: since the bulk of it will come from the EU, US and Nato)", ">\n\nIt’s like this was a totally a God send lol", ">\n\nHundreds, maybe thousands of people are dead.\nI would not consider that a \"God send [sic].\"", ">\n\nI mean.. did you even read the bible?", ">\n\nIt does seem to be right up his alley.", ">\n\nAs a Christian, that was also one of my very first thoughts\nAlso that there being numerous earthquakes in big name places reminds me of some of the stuff prophesized in the Bible", ">\n\nPeople always forget God kills more people than Satan in the Bible even without counting when he killed everyone on Earth who didn't join his yacht club.", ">\n\nThat's because Satan doesn't ever kill anyone physically, he only leads them into temptation and spiritual death\nAlso he's like barely in the Bible. I can think of only 2 places where he is; the Book of Job, and in the Gospels when he shows up and tempts Jesus", ">\n\n\"Following an international appeal for help, Turkey's President Erdogan said 45 countries had offered support.\" As per BBC report this morning.", ">\n\nMeanwhile the most critical places in Turkey still do not receive help and it is announced as if they have enough teams. Erdogan can keep asking for help, he’s done enough to prevent correct course of actions in the most critical time.\nEdit: If anybody downvotes this I suggest you figure out a way to understand Turkish news and listen to peoples’ cries from the absolutely destroyed cities. People are begging for help through news channels while the government bodies announce and claim they’ve sent help everywhere possible.", ">\n\nIt's worth noting VA-TF1, and all of the other FEMA USAR teams, have enough supplies upon deployment to be self sufficient for 72-96 hours, thus not relying upon local resources that are better spent caring for others.", ">\n\nGonna take a lot more than 3 or 4 days to dig out the reportedly tens of thousands of trapped folks. Hope they've got a supply chain planned.", ">\n\nPart of their SOP is just that. The 3 to 4 days is the most crucial part of USAR.", ">\n\nOh yeah.. The recovery becomes a lot less time sensitive after that many days, huh.. :(", ">\n\nYa it changers from rescure to recovery...", ">\n\nIt's winter, I'm afraid most needed won't make it through this night alone, I hope they do stay alive", ">\n\nWhen tragedy strike, politics go out and aid from many countries go in to help people in distress.", ">\n\nNot so sure Erdogan would say the same.. I wonder if he'll decline help from Sweden now since they're not worthy of his company..", ">\n\nIt would be pretty cool if Sweden sent some support.", ">\n\nAnd Finland. It’s a great solidarity moment for everyone to help out without being political. The victims need help desperately, especially with winter conditions.", ">\n\nToo bad shithead Erdogan won't return favours..", ">\n\nI imagine that NATO will get word to Erdogan that this assistance comes at an unlisted price, which is that Turkey needs to drop their absurd opposition to Sweden’s joining the pact.", ">\n\nThey won't. They're not going to use Sweden joining NATO against average Turkish citizens dying. They'll hope it'll have some effect though.", ">\n\nI think we’re saying the same thing, but in different ways. There won’t be any public quid pro quo. \nBut I’m absolutely certain that NATO will remind the Turkish government via backchannels later that they were done a huge favor, and now it’s time to repay a favor to the alliance. \nIs it distasteful? Yes. Is it the way the world works? Yes. Geopolitics is a nasty business.", ">\n\nI don't think its distasteful if they're doing it after. If someones behaving like an ass and you go and help them, and later on tell them to stop being an ass reminding them of the help..... I think that's the most tasteful way you could handle that.", ">\n\nThis earthquake is horrible, I dont think a lot of westerners are truly aware of how bad it is. A lot of these cities look like they were bombed WW2 style. Like a nuke went off or something. hell I've seen towns on the front line of Ukraine bombed by Russia constantly that look more livable.\nWould be cool to see the US/EU send a bunch of soldiers to distribute aid and remove rubble.", ">\n\nThe death toll is over 3,700 right now. It is only going to get worse.", ">\n\nI think now would be a good time for Sweden and Finland to go the extra mile in assisting. Take away all of the bullshit rhetoric that Ederogen was trying to use to get re elected.", ">\n\nWould be a very opportunistic moment for Sweden to deliver a swift care package.", ">\n\nWe are just sending money so far, we will respond according to what Turkey needs and asks for going forward. This isn’t really related to our current stale mate though, we usually send aid when disaster strikes regardless of our personal feelings towards a country’s government.", ">\n\nI saw where Sweden sent tents (like tent city tents) already.", ">\n\nGood! I hope they end up being useful!", ">\n\nFrom the sound of it they should be very useful. So many people are homeless now.", ">\n\nYeah and of course the cold makes it even worse, just awful all around. I hope they can reach people with the aid, I read that many roads and airports are destroyed as well but maybe military helicopters could work?", ">\n\nI think I heard that was a possibility.", ">\n\nI feel bad for the poor people in Syria. They have a crap government and no one wants to help them because of that fact.", ">\n\nI thought it was just Turkey?", ">\n\nturkey last year requested their english name to be changed from turkey to turkiye to prevent people from getting the country mixed with the bird. But I think that most organizations and people will still call it turkey over the harder name with a special letter", ">\n\nYeah and people don’t want to be told by Erdogan what to do", ">\n\nAlso the fact that people don't appreciate being told to change their own language. Just about every language has their own way of spelling and pronouncing other country's names and it's rather entitled to request that they change it out of vanity.", ">\n\nSometimes it works though. Have you noticed how much more prominent it's spelled Kyiv in English articles now instead of Kiev in the past year?", ">\n\nPeople had a bit of a special interest in doing that, considering the circumstances. No longer letting Russia's influence dictate how we spell the name of a Ukrainian city is just a small little rebellion.", ">\n\nSweden, Finland and Ukraine be like: “Wellllity wellity wellity…”", ">\n\nTurkey has been attacked by Mother Nature, so I guess we can invoke Article 5?", ">\n\nWe’ve been attacking Mother Nature for centuries.", ">\n\nBitch had it coming. What sort of psychopath invents loa loa worms? Or botflies?", ">\n\nOr worst of all: humans.", ">\n\nIt makes NATO mean something, which is great", ">\n\nWhat about Syria?", ">\n\nI know this earthquake is a horrible thing but it’s a nice change to see all these different countries coming together to help Turkey deal with it.", ">\n\nPeople in the comments talking about \"sending a message\" and \"opportunistic moment\" about Sweden sending aid to Turkey. How about you act like decent human beings for once? It looks like you wouldn't care shit about who sends aid to whom unless it creates some sort of reddit drama. Are you really so vain that you would rather talk about how to rub Turkey's nose in foreign aid than about all those people who died or lost everything in the earthquake?", ">\n\n\nHow about you act like decent human beings for once?\n\nMy man forgot that hes on reddit", ">\n\nYeah, my bad.", ">\n\nCorruption is a problem in Turkey. I sincerely hope most of the assistance is put to good use.", ">\n\nIt is time for election and this has become by far the biggest thing for Turkey now. Like it dwarfs everything else put together. \nIf people even have an inkling that Erdogan handled this poorly he would stand no chance in it. So I think it is pretty safe to say that the money will be spent helping people. That is the cynical take on it.\nThe optimistic take is that Erdogan isn't completely evil.", ">\n\nTayip announced May elections just before the earthquake.", ">\n\nI wonder how much Turkey and Syria's dear friend, Vladimir Putin, will donate to help them with recovery. Any cash for humanitarian aid, or just for weapons to use agains Ukraine? Hmmm.", ">\n\nFor what it's worth Putin actually said he would help Turkey with this, and Russian soldiers are in Syria right now digging people out.\nWouldn't it be great if about half a million Russian soldiers were free right now, they could dig people out of the rubble instead of burying Ukrainians in it.", ">\n\nYou hit the nail right on the head. So much power and energy applied to a disaster like this earthquake would be a game changer.", ">\n\nFun fact: Turkey, the bird, is named after the place. If we're saying Türkiye for the place, it's now türkiye for dinner as well", ">\n\nSweden and Finland should take this opportunity to help turkey as much as possible", ">\n\nHow about help to help instead of turning it political. Whenever people are dying needlessly, helping them shouldn’t ever be a political move. People need to stop making this point.", ">\n\nThere is no \"ü\" in English. Can we please post English.\nIt's \"Turkey\"", ">\n\nSweden and Finland just enjoying the irony, right now. Oh wait, no they're not. They have more class than that.", ">\n\nI'll bet they would.", ">\n\nI read Turkey send armored vehicles, drones and aid packages since the beginning of the war", ">\n\nearly on he sent the Backktar (sp) drone...with great results...that was almost a year ago, i havent heard a thing since though...compared to the rest of NATO allies..allowing refugees in and on going material support", ">\n\nSent cluster bombs recently as well.", ">\n\nI'd like to see Sweden and Finland lead the first responders assitance to turkey.", ">\n\nFinland and Sweden should send a bulkload of aid right about now.", ">\n\nCould we just not have anything bad happen for a minute?", ">\n\nNATO allies.... Including Sweden?", ">\n\nYes. Including Sweden and Finland.", ">\n\nBTW if you call it Türkiye in English, you support the islamist Erdogan regime there. \nThe name is TURKEY." ]

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[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?" ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices." ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"" ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price." ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price.", ">\n\nWell if you're expected to tip 20% then the price is the same. \nAlso the other thing nobody seems to want to say is that, at least for large corporations, if the wages were slightly more normalized across the company structure they could pay workers more without increasing costs. CEOs and manager types would have to accept not getting huge bonuses etc, but it's fairer overall and would help stabilize society. And let's face it, I don't care if they can't buy a third home or a yacht" ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price.", ">\n\nWell if you're expected to tip 20% then the price is the same. \nAlso the other thing nobody seems to want to say is that, at least for large corporations, if the wages were slightly more normalized across the company structure they could pay workers more without increasing costs. CEOs and manager types would have to accept not getting huge bonuses etc, but it's fairer overall and would help stabilize society. And let's face it, I don't care if they can't buy a third home or a yacht", ">\n\nFirst, restaurants and other food service institutions generally make razor thin margins. You don't have CEOs taking massive bonuses.\nSecond, most skilled tipped staff today would oppose getting rid of tips. It's a difficult to job to do well and a skilled waitress or bartender can make bank from tips at a high end place. Getting rid of tips is basically asking them to take a massive pay cut." ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price.", ">\n\nWell if you're expected to tip 20% then the price is the same. \nAlso the other thing nobody seems to want to say is that, at least for large corporations, if the wages were slightly more normalized across the company structure they could pay workers more without increasing costs. CEOs and manager types would have to accept not getting huge bonuses etc, but it's fairer overall and would help stabilize society. And let's face it, I don't care if they can't buy a third home or a yacht", ">\n\nFirst, restaurants and other food service institutions generally make razor thin margins. You don't have CEOs taking massive bonuses.\nSecond, most skilled tipped staff today would oppose getting rid of tips. It's a difficult to job to do well and a skilled waitress or bartender can make bank from tips at a high end place. Getting rid of tips is basically asking them to take a massive pay cut.", ">\n\nThen why does the entire planet do ‘service’ jobs perfectly fine, without tipping culture of USA. But America can’t? \nDon’t give me that shit. \nWe pay our staff a liveable wage, the cost is put on the menu. Stop making lame excuses. The staff still receive decent tips, obviously not as much as USA workers, buts it’s not a necessity and it’s just like a nice bonus at the end of the night/week/month (however your venue chooses to divvy it up). \nYou’ll literally pay the exact same as a customer. It’s just that instead of throwing down 20% tip. That 20% is factored into food costs and the price of meals. It’s basic math. \nEy? The entire world functions just fine. But you guys can’t? Get stuffed, mate." ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price.", ">\n\nWell if you're expected to tip 20% then the price is the same. \nAlso the other thing nobody seems to want to say is that, at least for large corporations, if the wages were slightly more normalized across the company structure they could pay workers more without increasing costs. CEOs and manager types would have to accept not getting huge bonuses etc, but it's fairer overall and would help stabilize society. And let's face it, I don't care if they can't buy a third home or a yacht", ">\n\nFirst, restaurants and other food service institutions generally make razor thin margins. You don't have CEOs taking massive bonuses.\nSecond, most skilled tipped staff today would oppose getting rid of tips. It's a difficult to job to do well and a skilled waitress or bartender can make bank from tips at a high end place. Getting rid of tips is basically asking them to take a massive pay cut.", ">\n\nThen why does the entire planet do ‘service’ jobs perfectly fine, without tipping culture of USA. But America can’t? \nDon’t give me that shit. \nWe pay our staff a liveable wage, the cost is put on the menu. Stop making lame excuses. The staff still receive decent tips, obviously not as much as USA workers, buts it’s not a necessity and it’s just like a nice bonus at the end of the night/week/month (however your venue chooses to divvy it up). \nYou’ll literally pay the exact same as a customer. It’s just that instead of throwing down 20% tip. That 20% is factored into food costs and the price of meals. It’s basic math. \nEy? The entire world functions just fine. But you guys can’t? Get stuffed, mate.", ">\n\nIt's momentum. You would find it nearly as impossible to switch over to a system like ours, but we do it just fine. People are resistant to change and even when everyone would like to change, the game theory here punishes anyone who tries to be ahead of the curve. So even if most restaurant owners would be happy to switch, they all want to be the last ones to do it. \nAlso, you've got servers in California getting $15 an hour minimum wage + 20% tips on prices that are inflated to cover that $15. These people are making $80k a year (based on your linguistic choices I'm going to assume you're Australian, so this is about $120,000 a year in Digeridollars). They make more than most of the college graduates in this country. Good luck getting them to give that shit up without riots." ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price.", ">\n\nWell if you're expected to tip 20% then the price is the same. \nAlso the other thing nobody seems to want to say is that, at least for large corporations, if the wages were slightly more normalized across the company structure they could pay workers more without increasing costs. CEOs and manager types would have to accept not getting huge bonuses etc, but it's fairer overall and would help stabilize society. And let's face it, I don't care if they can't buy a third home or a yacht", ">\n\nFirst, restaurants and other food service institutions generally make razor thin margins. You don't have CEOs taking massive bonuses.\nSecond, most skilled tipped staff today would oppose getting rid of tips. It's a difficult to job to do well and a skilled waitress or bartender can make bank from tips at a high end place. Getting rid of tips is basically asking them to take a massive pay cut.", ">\n\nThen why does the entire planet do ‘service’ jobs perfectly fine, without tipping culture of USA. But America can’t? \nDon’t give me that shit. \nWe pay our staff a liveable wage, the cost is put on the menu. Stop making lame excuses. The staff still receive decent tips, obviously not as much as USA workers, buts it’s not a necessity and it’s just like a nice bonus at the end of the night/week/month (however your venue chooses to divvy it up). \nYou’ll literally pay the exact same as a customer. It’s just that instead of throwing down 20% tip. That 20% is factored into food costs and the price of meals. It’s basic math. \nEy? The entire world functions just fine. But you guys can’t? Get stuffed, mate.", ">\n\nIt's momentum. You would find it nearly as impossible to switch over to a system like ours, but we do it just fine. People are resistant to change and even when everyone would like to change, the game theory here punishes anyone who tries to be ahead of the curve. So even if most restaurant owners would be happy to switch, they all want to be the last ones to do it. \nAlso, you've got servers in California getting $15 an hour minimum wage + 20% tips on prices that are inflated to cover that $15. These people are making $80k a year (based on your linguistic choices I'm going to assume you're Australian, so this is about $120,000 a year in Digeridollars). They make more than most of the college graduates in this country. Good luck getting them to give that shit up without riots.", ">\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices. Customers pay that as the total cost to go to a restaurant is exactly the same as it was before. So the total money collected by the restaurant is the same as price+tip was in the past. Then it's up to the owner and the staff to divide that. If it's so that the staff is willing to fight (=to go on strike) if the switch would mean a decrease in their income, then the owner has no choice but to pay them wages that equal the old wage + tip. \nThe only thing that would change is that the waiters would not be able to dodge taxes by taking some or all of the tips without paying income tax for that. And that's how it should be. The college graduates that you mention pay taxes for every cent that they earn, so why shouldn't the waiters?" ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price.", ">\n\nWell if you're expected to tip 20% then the price is the same. \nAlso the other thing nobody seems to want to say is that, at least for large corporations, if the wages were slightly more normalized across the company structure they could pay workers more without increasing costs. CEOs and manager types would have to accept not getting huge bonuses etc, but it's fairer overall and would help stabilize society. And let's face it, I don't care if they can't buy a third home or a yacht", ">\n\nFirst, restaurants and other food service institutions generally make razor thin margins. You don't have CEOs taking massive bonuses.\nSecond, most skilled tipped staff today would oppose getting rid of tips. It's a difficult to job to do well and a skilled waitress or bartender can make bank from tips at a high end place. Getting rid of tips is basically asking them to take a massive pay cut.", ">\n\nThen why does the entire planet do ‘service’ jobs perfectly fine, without tipping culture of USA. But America can’t? \nDon’t give me that shit. \nWe pay our staff a liveable wage, the cost is put on the menu. Stop making lame excuses. The staff still receive decent tips, obviously not as much as USA workers, buts it’s not a necessity and it’s just like a nice bonus at the end of the night/week/month (however your venue chooses to divvy it up). \nYou’ll literally pay the exact same as a customer. It’s just that instead of throwing down 20% tip. That 20% is factored into food costs and the price of meals. It’s basic math. \nEy? The entire world functions just fine. But you guys can’t? Get stuffed, mate.", ">\n\nIt's momentum. You would find it nearly as impossible to switch over to a system like ours, but we do it just fine. People are resistant to change and even when everyone would like to change, the game theory here punishes anyone who tries to be ahead of the curve. So even if most restaurant owners would be happy to switch, they all want to be the last ones to do it. \nAlso, you've got servers in California getting $15 an hour minimum wage + 20% tips on prices that are inflated to cover that $15. These people are making $80k a year (based on your linguistic choices I'm going to assume you're Australian, so this is about $120,000 a year in Digeridollars). They make more than most of the college graduates in this country. Good luck getting them to give that shit up without riots.", ">\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices. Customers pay that as the total cost to go to a restaurant is exactly the same as it was before. So the total money collected by the restaurant is the same as price+tip was in the past. Then it's up to the owner and the staff to divide that. If it's so that the staff is willing to fight (=to go on strike) if the switch would mean a decrease in their income, then the owner has no choice but to pay them wages that equal the old wage + tip. \nThe only thing that would change is that the waiters would not be able to dodge taxes by taking some or all of the tips without paying income tax for that. And that's how it should be. The college graduates that you mention pay taxes for every cent that they earn, so why shouldn't the waiters?", ">\n\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices.\n\nThe restaurants that try that go out of business as the skilled servers go to places that do tips and business dries up due to the higher up-front cost." ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price.", ">\n\nWell if you're expected to tip 20% then the price is the same. \nAlso the other thing nobody seems to want to say is that, at least for large corporations, if the wages were slightly more normalized across the company structure they could pay workers more without increasing costs. CEOs and manager types would have to accept not getting huge bonuses etc, but it's fairer overall and would help stabilize society. And let's face it, I don't care if they can't buy a third home or a yacht", ">\n\nFirst, restaurants and other food service institutions generally make razor thin margins. You don't have CEOs taking massive bonuses.\nSecond, most skilled tipped staff today would oppose getting rid of tips. It's a difficult to job to do well and a skilled waitress or bartender can make bank from tips at a high end place. Getting rid of tips is basically asking them to take a massive pay cut.", ">\n\nThen why does the entire planet do ‘service’ jobs perfectly fine, without tipping culture of USA. But America can’t? \nDon’t give me that shit. \nWe pay our staff a liveable wage, the cost is put on the menu. Stop making lame excuses. The staff still receive decent tips, obviously not as much as USA workers, buts it’s not a necessity and it’s just like a nice bonus at the end of the night/week/month (however your venue chooses to divvy it up). \nYou’ll literally pay the exact same as a customer. It’s just that instead of throwing down 20% tip. That 20% is factored into food costs and the price of meals. It’s basic math. \nEy? The entire world functions just fine. But you guys can’t? Get stuffed, mate.", ">\n\nIt's momentum. You would find it nearly as impossible to switch over to a system like ours, but we do it just fine. People are resistant to change and even when everyone would like to change, the game theory here punishes anyone who tries to be ahead of the curve. So even if most restaurant owners would be happy to switch, they all want to be the last ones to do it. \nAlso, you've got servers in California getting $15 an hour minimum wage + 20% tips on prices that are inflated to cover that $15. These people are making $80k a year (based on your linguistic choices I'm going to assume you're Australian, so this is about $120,000 a year in Digeridollars). They make more than most of the college graduates in this country. Good luck getting them to give that shit up without riots.", ">\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices. Customers pay that as the total cost to go to a restaurant is exactly the same as it was before. So the total money collected by the restaurant is the same as price+tip was in the past. Then it's up to the owner and the staff to divide that. If it's so that the staff is willing to fight (=to go on strike) if the switch would mean a decrease in their income, then the owner has no choice but to pay them wages that equal the old wage + tip. \nThe only thing that would change is that the waiters would not be able to dodge taxes by taking some or all of the tips without paying income tax for that. And that's how it should be. The college graduates that you mention pay taxes for every cent that they earn, so why shouldn't the waiters?", ">\n\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices.\n\nThe restaurants that try that go out of business as the skilled servers go to places that do tips and business dries up due to the higher up-front cost.", ">\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more? What up front cost you're talking about? If the tips are included in the prices and then wages paid later, the owners actually keep some of the money for a while that currently goes directly to the waiters as tips.\nAnd in any case what is this magical skill that American waiters possess that nobody else in the world can obtain but instead the restaurants work fine with service included in the prices and the service staff paid higher regular wages?" ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price.", ">\n\nWell if you're expected to tip 20% then the price is the same. \nAlso the other thing nobody seems to want to say is that, at least for large corporations, if the wages were slightly more normalized across the company structure they could pay workers more without increasing costs. CEOs and manager types would have to accept not getting huge bonuses etc, but it's fairer overall and would help stabilize society. And let's face it, I don't care if they can't buy a third home or a yacht", ">\n\nFirst, restaurants and other food service institutions generally make razor thin margins. You don't have CEOs taking massive bonuses.\nSecond, most skilled tipped staff today would oppose getting rid of tips. It's a difficult to job to do well and a skilled waitress or bartender can make bank from tips at a high end place. Getting rid of tips is basically asking them to take a massive pay cut.", ">\n\nThen why does the entire planet do ‘service’ jobs perfectly fine, without tipping culture of USA. But America can’t? \nDon’t give me that shit. \nWe pay our staff a liveable wage, the cost is put on the menu. Stop making lame excuses. The staff still receive decent tips, obviously not as much as USA workers, buts it’s not a necessity and it’s just like a nice bonus at the end of the night/week/month (however your venue chooses to divvy it up). \nYou’ll literally pay the exact same as a customer. It’s just that instead of throwing down 20% tip. That 20% is factored into food costs and the price of meals. It’s basic math. \nEy? The entire world functions just fine. But you guys can’t? Get stuffed, mate.", ">\n\nIt's momentum. You would find it nearly as impossible to switch over to a system like ours, but we do it just fine. People are resistant to change and even when everyone would like to change, the game theory here punishes anyone who tries to be ahead of the curve. So even if most restaurant owners would be happy to switch, they all want to be the last ones to do it. \nAlso, you've got servers in California getting $15 an hour minimum wage + 20% tips on prices that are inflated to cover that $15. These people are making $80k a year (based on your linguistic choices I'm going to assume you're Australian, so this is about $120,000 a year in Digeridollars). They make more than most of the college graduates in this country. Good luck getting them to give that shit up without riots.", ">\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices. Customers pay that as the total cost to go to a restaurant is exactly the same as it was before. So the total money collected by the restaurant is the same as price+tip was in the past. Then it's up to the owner and the staff to divide that. If it's so that the staff is willing to fight (=to go on strike) if the switch would mean a decrease in their income, then the owner has no choice but to pay them wages that equal the old wage + tip. \nThe only thing that would change is that the waiters would not be able to dodge taxes by taking some or all of the tips without paying income tax for that. And that's how it should be. The college graduates that you mention pay taxes for every cent that they earn, so why shouldn't the waiters?", ">\n\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices.\n\nThe restaurants that try that go out of business as the skilled servers go to places that do tips and business dries up due to the higher up-front cost.", ">\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more? What up front cost you're talking about? If the tips are included in the prices and then wages paid later, the owners actually keep some of the money for a while that currently goes directly to the waiters as tips.\nAnd in any case what is this magical skill that American waiters possess that nobody else in the world can obtain but instead the restaurants work fine with service included in the prices and the service staff paid higher regular wages?", ">\n\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more?\n\nHow much more?\nWhat is the actual acceptable hourly wage for servers in the United States if tipping does not exist?" ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price.", ">\n\nWell if you're expected to tip 20% then the price is the same. \nAlso the other thing nobody seems to want to say is that, at least for large corporations, if the wages were slightly more normalized across the company structure they could pay workers more without increasing costs. CEOs and manager types would have to accept not getting huge bonuses etc, but it's fairer overall and would help stabilize society. And let's face it, I don't care if they can't buy a third home or a yacht", ">\n\nFirst, restaurants and other food service institutions generally make razor thin margins. You don't have CEOs taking massive bonuses.\nSecond, most skilled tipped staff today would oppose getting rid of tips. It's a difficult to job to do well and a skilled waitress or bartender can make bank from tips at a high end place. Getting rid of tips is basically asking them to take a massive pay cut.", ">\n\nThen why does the entire planet do ‘service’ jobs perfectly fine, without tipping culture of USA. But America can’t? \nDon’t give me that shit. \nWe pay our staff a liveable wage, the cost is put on the menu. Stop making lame excuses. The staff still receive decent tips, obviously not as much as USA workers, buts it’s not a necessity and it’s just like a nice bonus at the end of the night/week/month (however your venue chooses to divvy it up). \nYou’ll literally pay the exact same as a customer. It’s just that instead of throwing down 20% tip. That 20% is factored into food costs and the price of meals. It’s basic math. \nEy? The entire world functions just fine. But you guys can’t? Get stuffed, mate.", ">\n\nIt's momentum. You would find it nearly as impossible to switch over to a system like ours, but we do it just fine. People are resistant to change and even when everyone would like to change, the game theory here punishes anyone who tries to be ahead of the curve. So even if most restaurant owners would be happy to switch, they all want to be the last ones to do it. \nAlso, you've got servers in California getting $15 an hour minimum wage + 20% tips on prices that are inflated to cover that $15. These people are making $80k a year (based on your linguistic choices I'm going to assume you're Australian, so this is about $120,000 a year in Digeridollars). They make more than most of the college graduates in this country. Good luck getting them to give that shit up without riots.", ">\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices. Customers pay that as the total cost to go to a restaurant is exactly the same as it was before. So the total money collected by the restaurant is the same as price+tip was in the past. Then it's up to the owner and the staff to divide that. If it's so that the staff is willing to fight (=to go on strike) if the switch would mean a decrease in their income, then the owner has no choice but to pay them wages that equal the old wage + tip. \nThe only thing that would change is that the waiters would not be able to dodge taxes by taking some or all of the tips without paying income tax for that. And that's how it should be. The college graduates that you mention pay taxes for every cent that they earn, so why shouldn't the waiters?", ">\n\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices.\n\nThe restaurants that try that go out of business as the skilled servers go to places that do tips and business dries up due to the higher up-front cost.", ">\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more? What up front cost you're talking about? If the tips are included in the prices and then wages paid later, the owners actually keep some of the money for a while that currently goes directly to the waiters as tips.\nAnd in any case what is this magical skill that American waiters possess that nobody else in the world can obtain but instead the restaurants work fine with service included in the prices and the service staff paid higher regular wages?", ">\n\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more?\n\nHow much more?\nWhat is the actual acceptable hourly wage for servers in the United States if tipping does not exist?", ">\n\nSo much that they get workers. That's how all other industries work. If you don't pay enough, you don't get workers from the labour market.\nI don't know what do you mean by \"acceptable\". I'd imagine that most servers would not accept a decrease of their income when switching from tips to wages. So, the employer could either pay that or lose his workers. Just like it works in all other industries." ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price.", ">\n\nWell if you're expected to tip 20% then the price is the same. \nAlso the other thing nobody seems to want to say is that, at least for large corporations, if the wages were slightly more normalized across the company structure they could pay workers more without increasing costs. CEOs and manager types would have to accept not getting huge bonuses etc, but it's fairer overall and would help stabilize society. And let's face it, I don't care if they can't buy a third home or a yacht", ">\n\nFirst, restaurants and other food service institutions generally make razor thin margins. You don't have CEOs taking massive bonuses.\nSecond, most skilled tipped staff today would oppose getting rid of tips. It's a difficult to job to do well and a skilled waitress or bartender can make bank from tips at a high end place. Getting rid of tips is basically asking them to take a massive pay cut.", ">\n\nThen why does the entire planet do ‘service’ jobs perfectly fine, without tipping culture of USA. But America can’t? \nDon’t give me that shit. \nWe pay our staff a liveable wage, the cost is put on the menu. Stop making lame excuses. The staff still receive decent tips, obviously not as much as USA workers, buts it’s not a necessity and it’s just like a nice bonus at the end of the night/week/month (however your venue chooses to divvy it up). \nYou’ll literally pay the exact same as a customer. It’s just that instead of throwing down 20% tip. That 20% is factored into food costs and the price of meals. It’s basic math. \nEy? The entire world functions just fine. But you guys can’t? Get stuffed, mate.", ">\n\nIt's momentum. You would find it nearly as impossible to switch over to a system like ours, but we do it just fine. People are resistant to change and even when everyone would like to change, the game theory here punishes anyone who tries to be ahead of the curve. So even if most restaurant owners would be happy to switch, they all want to be the last ones to do it. \nAlso, you've got servers in California getting $15 an hour minimum wage + 20% tips on prices that are inflated to cover that $15. These people are making $80k a year (based on your linguistic choices I'm going to assume you're Australian, so this is about $120,000 a year in Digeridollars). They make more than most of the college graduates in this country. Good luck getting them to give that shit up without riots.", ">\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices. Customers pay that as the total cost to go to a restaurant is exactly the same as it was before. So the total money collected by the restaurant is the same as price+tip was in the past. Then it's up to the owner and the staff to divide that. If it's so that the staff is willing to fight (=to go on strike) if the switch would mean a decrease in their income, then the owner has no choice but to pay them wages that equal the old wage + tip. \nThe only thing that would change is that the waiters would not be able to dodge taxes by taking some or all of the tips without paying income tax for that. And that's how it should be. The college graduates that you mention pay taxes for every cent that they earn, so why shouldn't the waiters?", ">\n\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices.\n\nThe restaurants that try that go out of business as the skilled servers go to places that do tips and business dries up due to the higher up-front cost.", ">\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more? What up front cost you're talking about? If the tips are included in the prices and then wages paid later, the owners actually keep some of the money for a while that currently goes directly to the waiters as tips.\nAnd in any case what is this magical skill that American waiters possess that nobody else in the world can obtain but instead the restaurants work fine with service included in the prices and the service staff paid higher regular wages?", ">\n\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more?\n\nHow much more?\nWhat is the actual acceptable hourly wage for servers in the United States if tipping does not exist?", ">\n\nSo much that they get workers. That's how all other industries work. If you don't pay enough, you don't get workers from the labour market.\nI don't know what do you mean by \"acceptable\". I'd imagine that most servers would not accept a decrease of their income when switching from tips to wages. So, the employer could either pay that or lose his workers. Just like it works in all other industries.", ">\n\nI’m a good tipper and I absolutely hate tipping because of how out of hand it has become. Tipping in the drive thru? Tipping the same amount for a to go order as dine in service when I never even got a drink much less a refill - and the total after tax is what’s expected to be tipped on? (When did that change anyway?) I’m over all of it. I wish places would pay a living wage and we could eliminate tipping altogether. I rarely eat out anymore because of how ridiculous it has become.\nEdit: fixed typo “Al” to “all”" ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price.", ">\n\nWell if you're expected to tip 20% then the price is the same. \nAlso the other thing nobody seems to want to say is that, at least for large corporations, if the wages were slightly more normalized across the company structure they could pay workers more without increasing costs. CEOs and manager types would have to accept not getting huge bonuses etc, but it's fairer overall and would help stabilize society. And let's face it, I don't care if they can't buy a third home or a yacht", ">\n\nFirst, restaurants and other food service institutions generally make razor thin margins. You don't have CEOs taking massive bonuses.\nSecond, most skilled tipped staff today would oppose getting rid of tips. It's a difficult to job to do well and a skilled waitress or bartender can make bank from tips at a high end place. Getting rid of tips is basically asking them to take a massive pay cut.", ">\n\nThen why does the entire planet do ‘service’ jobs perfectly fine, without tipping culture of USA. But America can’t? \nDon’t give me that shit. \nWe pay our staff a liveable wage, the cost is put on the menu. Stop making lame excuses. The staff still receive decent tips, obviously not as much as USA workers, buts it’s not a necessity and it’s just like a nice bonus at the end of the night/week/month (however your venue chooses to divvy it up). \nYou’ll literally pay the exact same as a customer. It’s just that instead of throwing down 20% tip. That 20% is factored into food costs and the price of meals. It’s basic math. \nEy? The entire world functions just fine. But you guys can’t? Get stuffed, mate.", ">\n\nIt's momentum. You would find it nearly as impossible to switch over to a system like ours, but we do it just fine. People are resistant to change and even when everyone would like to change, the game theory here punishes anyone who tries to be ahead of the curve. So even if most restaurant owners would be happy to switch, they all want to be the last ones to do it. \nAlso, you've got servers in California getting $15 an hour minimum wage + 20% tips on prices that are inflated to cover that $15. These people are making $80k a year (based on your linguistic choices I'm going to assume you're Australian, so this is about $120,000 a year in Digeridollars). They make more than most of the college graduates in this country. Good luck getting them to give that shit up without riots.", ">\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices. Customers pay that as the total cost to go to a restaurant is exactly the same as it was before. So the total money collected by the restaurant is the same as price+tip was in the past. Then it's up to the owner and the staff to divide that. If it's so that the staff is willing to fight (=to go on strike) if the switch would mean a decrease in their income, then the owner has no choice but to pay them wages that equal the old wage + tip. \nThe only thing that would change is that the waiters would not be able to dodge taxes by taking some or all of the tips without paying income tax for that. And that's how it should be. The college graduates that you mention pay taxes for every cent that they earn, so why shouldn't the waiters?", ">\n\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices.\n\nThe restaurants that try that go out of business as the skilled servers go to places that do tips and business dries up due to the higher up-front cost.", ">\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more? What up front cost you're talking about? If the tips are included in the prices and then wages paid later, the owners actually keep some of the money for a while that currently goes directly to the waiters as tips.\nAnd in any case what is this magical skill that American waiters possess that nobody else in the world can obtain but instead the restaurants work fine with service included in the prices and the service staff paid higher regular wages?", ">\n\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more?\n\nHow much more?\nWhat is the actual acceptable hourly wage for servers in the United States if tipping does not exist?", ">\n\nSo much that they get workers. That's how all other industries work. If you don't pay enough, you don't get workers from the labour market.\nI don't know what do you mean by \"acceptable\". I'd imagine that most servers would not accept a decrease of their income when switching from tips to wages. So, the employer could either pay that or lose his workers. Just like it works in all other industries.", ">\n\nI’m a good tipper and I absolutely hate tipping because of how out of hand it has become. Tipping in the drive thru? Tipping the same amount for a to go order as dine in service when I never even got a drink much less a refill - and the total after tax is what’s expected to be tipped on? (When did that change anyway?) I’m over all of it. I wish places would pay a living wage and we could eliminate tipping altogether. I rarely eat out anymore because of how ridiculous it has become.\nEdit: fixed typo “Al” to “all”", ">\n\nJust because they ask for tips doesn’t mean you need to tip. Be confident tipping what you feel is appropriate and sometimes that is nothing. If you enable the behavior it will keep spreading." ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price.", ">\n\nWell if you're expected to tip 20% then the price is the same. \nAlso the other thing nobody seems to want to say is that, at least for large corporations, if the wages were slightly more normalized across the company structure they could pay workers more without increasing costs. CEOs and manager types would have to accept not getting huge bonuses etc, but it's fairer overall and would help stabilize society. And let's face it, I don't care if they can't buy a third home or a yacht", ">\n\nFirst, restaurants and other food service institutions generally make razor thin margins. You don't have CEOs taking massive bonuses.\nSecond, most skilled tipped staff today would oppose getting rid of tips. It's a difficult to job to do well and a skilled waitress or bartender can make bank from tips at a high end place. Getting rid of tips is basically asking them to take a massive pay cut.", ">\n\nThen why does the entire planet do ‘service’ jobs perfectly fine, without tipping culture of USA. But America can’t? \nDon’t give me that shit. \nWe pay our staff a liveable wage, the cost is put on the menu. Stop making lame excuses. The staff still receive decent tips, obviously not as much as USA workers, buts it’s not a necessity and it’s just like a nice bonus at the end of the night/week/month (however your venue chooses to divvy it up). \nYou’ll literally pay the exact same as a customer. It’s just that instead of throwing down 20% tip. That 20% is factored into food costs and the price of meals. It’s basic math. \nEy? The entire world functions just fine. But you guys can’t? Get stuffed, mate.", ">\n\nIt's momentum. You would find it nearly as impossible to switch over to a system like ours, but we do it just fine. People are resistant to change and even when everyone would like to change, the game theory here punishes anyone who tries to be ahead of the curve. So even if most restaurant owners would be happy to switch, they all want to be the last ones to do it. \nAlso, you've got servers in California getting $15 an hour minimum wage + 20% tips on prices that are inflated to cover that $15. These people are making $80k a year (based on your linguistic choices I'm going to assume you're Australian, so this is about $120,000 a year in Digeridollars). They make more than most of the college graduates in this country. Good luck getting them to give that shit up without riots.", ">\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices. Customers pay that as the total cost to go to a restaurant is exactly the same as it was before. So the total money collected by the restaurant is the same as price+tip was in the past. Then it's up to the owner and the staff to divide that. If it's so that the staff is willing to fight (=to go on strike) if the switch would mean a decrease in their income, then the owner has no choice but to pay them wages that equal the old wage + tip. \nThe only thing that would change is that the waiters would not be able to dodge taxes by taking some or all of the tips without paying income tax for that. And that's how it should be. The college graduates that you mention pay taxes for every cent that they earn, so why shouldn't the waiters?", ">\n\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices.\n\nThe restaurants that try that go out of business as the skilled servers go to places that do tips and business dries up due to the higher up-front cost.", ">\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more? What up front cost you're talking about? If the tips are included in the prices and then wages paid later, the owners actually keep some of the money for a while that currently goes directly to the waiters as tips.\nAnd in any case what is this magical skill that American waiters possess that nobody else in the world can obtain but instead the restaurants work fine with service included in the prices and the service staff paid higher regular wages?", ">\n\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more?\n\nHow much more?\nWhat is the actual acceptable hourly wage for servers in the United States if tipping does not exist?", ">\n\nSo much that they get workers. That's how all other industries work. If you don't pay enough, you don't get workers from the labour market.\nI don't know what do you mean by \"acceptable\". I'd imagine that most servers would not accept a decrease of their income when switching from tips to wages. So, the employer could either pay that or lose his workers. Just like it works in all other industries.", ">\n\nI’m a good tipper and I absolutely hate tipping because of how out of hand it has become. Tipping in the drive thru? Tipping the same amount for a to go order as dine in service when I never even got a drink much less a refill - and the total after tax is what’s expected to be tipped on? (When did that change anyway?) I’m over all of it. I wish places would pay a living wage and we could eliminate tipping altogether. I rarely eat out anymore because of how ridiculous it has become.\nEdit: fixed typo “Al” to “all”", ">\n\nJust because they ask for tips doesn’t mean you need to tip. Be confident tipping what you feel is appropriate and sometimes that is nothing. If you enable the behavior it will keep spreading.", ">\n\nI agree with this, and IME most people don't react at all, let alone make a fuss over it. I think a lot of people are afraid of being lectured or some kind of confrontation, which is very unlikely to happen. Kind of like how they say, don't worry about what people think about you because they don't think about you as much as you think they do. Most people want to avoid a confrontation as much as you do." ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price.", ">\n\nWell if you're expected to tip 20% then the price is the same. \nAlso the other thing nobody seems to want to say is that, at least for large corporations, if the wages were slightly more normalized across the company structure they could pay workers more without increasing costs. CEOs and manager types would have to accept not getting huge bonuses etc, but it's fairer overall and would help stabilize society. And let's face it, I don't care if they can't buy a third home or a yacht", ">\n\nFirst, restaurants and other food service institutions generally make razor thin margins. You don't have CEOs taking massive bonuses.\nSecond, most skilled tipped staff today would oppose getting rid of tips. It's a difficult to job to do well and a skilled waitress or bartender can make bank from tips at a high end place. Getting rid of tips is basically asking them to take a massive pay cut.", ">\n\nThen why does the entire planet do ‘service’ jobs perfectly fine, without tipping culture of USA. But America can’t? \nDon’t give me that shit. \nWe pay our staff a liveable wage, the cost is put on the menu. Stop making lame excuses. The staff still receive decent tips, obviously not as much as USA workers, buts it’s not a necessity and it’s just like a nice bonus at the end of the night/week/month (however your venue chooses to divvy it up). \nYou’ll literally pay the exact same as a customer. It’s just that instead of throwing down 20% tip. That 20% is factored into food costs and the price of meals. It’s basic math. \nEy? The entire world functions just fine. But you guys can’t? Get stuffed, mate.", ">\n\nIt's momentum. You would find it nearly as impossible to switch over to a system like ours, but we do it just fine. People are resistant to change and even when everyone would like to change, the game theory here punishes anyone who tries to be ahead of the curve. So even if most restaurant owners would be happy to switch, they all want to be the last ones to do it. \nAlso, you've got servers in California getting $15 an hour minimum wage + 20% tips on prices that are inflated to cover that $15. These people are making $80k a year (based on your linguistic choices I'm going to assume you're Australian, so this is about $120,000 a year in Digeridollars). They make more than most of the college graduates in this country. Good luck getting them to give that shit up without riots.", ">\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices. Customers pay that as the total cost to go to a restaurant is exactly the same as it was before. So the total money collected by the restaurant is the same as price+tip was in the past. Then it's up to the owner and the staff to divide that. If it's so that the staff is willing to fight (=to go on strike) if the switch would mean a decrease in their income, then the owner has no choice but to pay them wages that equal the old wage + tip. \nThe only thing that would change is that the waiters would not be able to dodge taxes by taking some or all of the tips without paying income tax for that. And that's how it should be. The college graduates that you mention pay taxes for every cent that they earn, so why shouldn't the waiters?", ">\n\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices.\n\nThe restaurants that try that go out of business as the skilled servers go to places that do tips and business dries up due to the higher up-front cost.", ">\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more? What up front cost you're talking about? If the tips are included in the prices and then wages paid later, the owners actually keep some of the money for a while that currently goes directly to the waiters as tips.\nAnd in any case what is this magical skill that American waiters possess that nobody else in the world can obtain but instead the restaurants work fine with service included in the prices and the service staff paid higher regular wages?", ">\n\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more?\n\nHow much more?\nWhat is the actual acceptable hourly wage for servers in the United States if tipping does not exist?", ">\n\nSo much that they get workers. That's how all other industries work. If you don't pay enough, you don't get workers from the labour market.\nI don't know what do you mean by \"acceptable\". I'd imagine that most servers would not accept a decrease of their income when switching from tips to wages. So, the employer could either pay that or lose his workers. Just like it works in all other industries.", ">\n\nI’m a good tipper and I absolutely hate tipping because of how out of hand it has become. Tipping in the drive thru? Tipping the same amount for a to go order as dine in service when I never even got a drink much less a refill - and the total after tax is what’s expected to be tipped on? (When did that change anyway?) I’m over all of it. I wish places would pay a living wage and we could eliminate tipping altogether. I rarely eat out anymore because of how ridiculous it has become.\nEdit: fixed typo “Al” to “all”", ">\n\nJust because they ask for tips doesn’t mean you need to tip. Be confident tipping what you feel is appropriate and sometimes that is nothing. If you enable the behavior it will keep spreading.", ">\n\nI agree with this, and IME most people don't react at all, let alone make a fuss over it. I think a lot of people are afraid of being lectured or some kind of confrontation, which is very unlikely to happen. Kind of like how they say, don't worry about what people think about you because they don't think about you as much as you think they do. Most people want to avoid a confrontation as much as you do.", ">\n\nYeah, having worked a fast food job years ago, before the iPad tipping norm, most of my time spent at the register was spent thinking about what I wanted to do when I got home and how to optimize whatever video game I was playing at the time iirc." ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price.", ">\n\nWell if you're expected to tip 20% then the price is the same. \nAlso the other thing nobody seems to want to say is that, at least for large corporations, if the wages were slightly more normalized across the company structure they could pay workers more without increasing costs. CEOs and manager types would have to accept not getting huge bonuses etc, but it's fairer overall and would help stabilize society. And let's face it, I don't care if they can't buy a third home or a yacht", ">\n\nFirst, restaurants and other food service institutions generally make razor thin margins. You don't have CEOs taking massive bonuses.\nSecond, most skilled tipped staff today would oppose getting rid of tips. It's a difficult to job to do well and a skilled waitress or bartender can make bank from tips at a high end place. Getting rid of tips is basically asking them to take a massive pay cut.", ">\n\nThen why does the entire planet do ‘service’ jobs perfectly fine, without tipping culture of USA. But America can’t? \nDon’t give me that shit. \nWe pay our staff a liveable wage, the cost is put on the menu. Stop making lame excuses. The staff still receive decent tips, obviously not as much as USA workers, buts it’s not a necessity and it’s just like a nice bonus at the end of the night/week/month (however your venue chooses to divvy it up). \nYou’ll literally pay the exact same as a customer. It’s just that instead of throwing down 20% tip. That 20% is factored into food costs and the price of meals. It’s basic math. \nEy? The entire world functions just fine. But you guys can’t? Get stuffed, mate.", ">\n\nIt's momentum. You would find it nearly as impossible to switch over to a system like ours, but we do it just fine. People are resistant to change and even when everyone would like to change, the game theory here punishes anyone who tries to be ahead of the curve. So even if most restaurant owners would be happy to switch, they all want to be the last ones to do it. \nAlso, you've got servers in California getting $15 an hour minimum wage + 20% tips on prices that are inflated to cover that $15. These people are making $80k a year (based on your linguistic choices I'm going to assume you're Australian, so this is about $120,000 a year in Digeridollars). They make more than most of the college graduates in this country. Good luck getting them to give that shit up without riots.", ">\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices. Customers pay that as the total cost to go to a restaurant is exactly the same as it was before. So the total money collected by the restaurant is the same as price+tip was in the past. Then it's up to the owner and the staff to divide that. If it's so that the staff is willing to fight (=to go on strike) if the switch would mean a decrease in their income, then the owner has no choice but to pay them wages that equal the old wage + tip. \nThe only thing that would change is that the waiters would not be able to dodge taxes by taking some or all of the tips without paying income tax for that. And that's how it should be. The college graduates that you mention pay taxes for every cent that they earn, so why shouldn't the waiters?", ">\n\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices.\n\nThe restaurants that try that go out of business as the skilled servers go to places that do tips and business dries up due to the higher up-front cost.", ">\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more? What up front cost you're talking about? If the tips are included in the prices and then wages paid later, the owners actually keep some of the money for a while that currently goes directly to the waiters as tips.\nAnd in any case what is this magical skill that American waiters possess that nobody else in the world can obtain but instead the restaurants work fine with service included in the prices and the service staff paid higher regular wages?", ">\n\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more?\n\nHow much more?\nWhat is the actual acceptable hourly wage for servers in the United States if tipping does not exist?", ">\n\nSo much that they get workers. That's how all other industries work. If you don't pay enough, you don't get workers from the labour market.\nI don't know what do you mean by \"acceptable\". I'd imagine that most servers would not accept a decrease of their income when switching from tips to wages. So, the employer could either pay that or lose his workers. Just like it works in all other industries.", ">\n\nI’m a good tipper and I absolutely hate tipping because of how out of hand it has become. Tipping in the drive thru? Tipping the same amount for a to go order as dine in service when I never even got a drink much less a refill - and the total after tax is what’s expected to be tipped on? (When did that change anyway?) I’m over all of it. I wish places would pay a living wage and we could eliminate tipping altogether. I rarely eat out anymore because of how ridiculous it has become.\nEdit: fixed typo “Al” to “all”", ">\n\nJust because they ask for tips doesn’t mean you need to tip. Be confident tipping what you feel is appropriate and sometimes that is nothing. If you enable the behavior it will keep spreading.", ">\n\nI agree with this, and IME most people don't react at all, let alone make a fuss over it. I think a lot of people are afraid of being lectured or some kind of confrontation, which is very unlikely to happen. Kind of like how they say, don't worry about what people think about you because they don't think about you as much as you think they do. Most people want to avoid a confrontation as much as you do.", ">\n\nYeah, having worked a fast food job years ago, before the iPad tipping norm, most of my time spent at the register was spent thinking about what I wanted to do when I got home and how to optimize whatever video game I was playing at the time iirc.", ">\n\n\nAnd let's be honest, it's kinda crazy to feel the need to tip someone who didn't really even provide a service for you, other than what is expected from them in the normal duties of their position.\n\nThis so much. I've been trying to pinpoint what felt wrong to me about the whole thing, and this is it" ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price.", ">\n\nWell if you're expected to tip 20% then the price is the same. \nAlso the other thing nobody seems to want to say is that, at least for large corporations, if the wages were slightly more normalized across the company structure they could pay workers more without increasing costs. CEOs and manager types would have to accept not getting huge bonuses etc, but it's fairer overall and would help stabilize society. And let's face it, I don't care if they can't buy a third home or a yacht", ">\n\nFirst, restaurants and other food service institutions generally make razor thin margins. You don't have CEOs taking massive bonuses.\nSecond, most skilled tipped staff today would oppose getting rid of tips. It's a difficult to job to do well and a skilled waitress or bartender can make bank from tips at a high end place. Getting rid of tips is basically asking them to take a massive pay cut.", ">\n\nThen why does the entire planet do ‘service’ jobs perfectly fine, without tipping culture of USA. But America can’t? \nDon’t give me that shit. \nWe pay our staff a liveable wage, the cost is put on the menu. Stop making lame excuses. The staff still receive decent tips, obviously not as much as USA workers, buts it’s not a necessity and it’s just like a nice bonus at the end of the night/week/month (however your venue chooses to divvy it up). \nYou’ll literally pay the exact same as a customer. It’s just that instead of throwing down 20% tip. That 20% is factored into food costs and the price of meals. It’s basic math. \nEy? The entire world functions just fine. But you guys can’t? Get stuffed, mate.", ">\n\nIt's momentum. You would find it nearly as impossible to switch over to a system like ours, but we do it just fine. People are resistant to change and even when everyone would like to change, the game theory here punishes anyone who tries to be ahead of the curve. So even if most restaurant owners would be happy to switch, they all want to be the last ones to do it. \nAlso, you've got servers in California getting $15 an hour minimum wage + 20% tips on prices that are inflated to cover that $15. These people are making $80k a year (based on your linguistic choices I'm going to assume you're Australian, so this is about $120,000 a year in Digeridollars). They make more than most of the college graduates in this country. Good luck getting them to give that shit up without riots.", ">\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices. Customers pay that as the total cost to go to a restaurant is exactly the same as it was before. So the total money collected by the restaurant is the same as price+tip was in the past. Then it's up to the owner and the staff to divide that. If it's so that the staff is willing to fight (=to go on strike) if the switch would mean a decrease in their income, then the owner has no choice but to pay them wages that equal the old wage + tip. \nThe only thing that would change is that the waiters would not be able to dodge taxes by taking some or all of the tips without paying income tax for that. And that's how it should be. The college graduates that you mention pay taxes for every cent that they earn, so why shouldn't the waiters?", ">\n\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices.\n\nThe restaurants that try that go out of business as the skilled servers go to places that do tips and business dries up due to the higher up-front cost.", ">\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more? What up front cost you're talking about? If the tips are included in the prices and then wages paid later, the owners actually keep some of the money for a while that currently goes directly to the waiters as tips.\nAnd in any case what is this magical skill that American waiters possess that nobody else in the world can obtain but instead the restaurants work fine with service included in the prices and the service staff paid higher regular wages?", ">\n\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more?\n\nHow much more?\nWhat is the actual acceptable hourly wage for servers in the United States if tipping does not exist?", ">\n\nSo much that they get workers. That's how all other industries work. If you don't pay enough, you don't get workers from the labour market.\nI don't know what do you mean by \"acceptable\". I'd imagine that most servers would not accept a decrease of their income when switching from tips to wages. So, the employer could either pay that or lose his workers. Just like it works in all other industries.", ">\n\nI’m a good tipper and I absolutely hate tipping because of how out of hand it has become. Tipping in the drive thru? Tipping the same amount for a to go order as dine in service when I never even got a drink much less a refill - and the total after tax is what’s expected to be tipped on? (When did that change anyway?) I’m over all of it. I wish places would pay a living wage and we could eliminate tipping altogether. I rarely eat out anymore because of how ridiculous it has become.\nEdit: fixed typo “Al” to “all”", ">\n\nJust because they ask for tips doesn’t mean you need to tip. Be confident tipping what you feel is appropriate and sometimes that is nothing. If you enable the behavior it will keep spreading.", ">\n\nI agree with this, and IME most people don't react at all, let alone make a fuss over it. I think a lot of people are afraid of being lectured or some kind of confrontation, which is very unlikely to happen. Kind of like how they say, don't worry about what people think about you because they don't think about you as much as you think they do. Most people want to avoid a confrontation as much as you do.", ">\n\nYeah, having worked a fast food job years ago, before the iPad tipping norm, most of my time spent at the register was spent thinking about what I wanted to do when I got home and how to optimize whatever video game I was playing at the time iirc.", ">\n\n\nAnd let's be honest, it's kinda crazy to feel the need to tip someone who didn't really even provide a service for you, other than what is expected from them in the normal duties of their position.\n\nThis so much. I've been trying to pinpoint what felt wrong to me about the whole thing, and this is it", ">\n\nThe other day I bought a ridiculously overpriced bottle of water at a kiosk inside a bus station. I got a Square prompt for a tip. The article OP is referencing said it would be “miserly” not to tip in that instance. Fuck that." ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price.", ">\n\nWell if you're expected to tip 20% then the price is the same. \nAlso the other thing nobody seems to want to say is that, at least for large corporations, if the wages were slightly more normalized across the company structure they could pay workers more without increasing costs. CEOs and manager types would have to accept not getting huge bonuses etc, but it's fairer overall and would help stabilize society. And let's face it, I don't care if they can't buy a third home or a yacht", ">\n\nFirst, restaurants and other food service institutions generally make razor thin margins. You don't have CEOs taking massive bonuses.\nSecond, most skilled tipped staff today would oppose getting rid of tips. It's a difficult to job to do well and a skilled waitress or bartender can make bank from tips at a high end place. Getting rid of tips is basically asking them to take a massive pay cut.", ">\n\nThen why does the entire planet do ‘service’ jobs perfectly fine, without tipping culture of USA. But America can’t? \nDon’t give me that shit. \nWe pay our staff a liveable wage, the cost is put on the menu. Stop making lame excuses. The staff still receive decent tips, obviously not as much as USA workers, buts it’s not a necessity and it’s just like a nice bonus at the end of the night/week/month (however your venue chooses to divvy it up). \nYou’ll literally pay the exact same as a customer. It’s just that instead of throwing down 20% tip. That 20% is factored into food costs and the price of meals. It’s basic math. \nEy? The entire world functions just fine. But you guys can’t? Get stuffed, mate.", ">\n\nIt's momentum. You would find it nearly as impossible to switch over to a system like ours, but we do it just fine. People are resistant to change and even when everyone would like to change, the game theory here punishes anyone who tries to be ahead of the curve. So even if most restaurant owners would be happy to switch, they all want to be the last ones to do it. \nAlso, you've got servers in California getting $15 an hour minimum wage + 20% tips on prices that are inflated to cover that $15. These people are making $80k a year (based on your linguistic choices I'm going to assume you're Australian, so this is about $120,000 a year in Digeridollars). They make more than most of the college graduates in this country. Good luck getting them to give that shit up without riots.", ">\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices. Customers pay that as the total cost to go to a restaurant is exactly the same as it was before. So the total money collected by the restaurant is the same as price+tip was in the past. Then it's up to the owner and the staff to divide that. If it's so that the staff is willing to fight (=to go on strike) if the switch would mean a decrease in their income, then the owner has no choice but to pay them wages that equal the old wage + tip. \nThe only thing that would change is that the waiters would not be able to dodge taxes by taking some or all of the tips without paying income tax for that. And that's how it should be. The college graduates that you mention pay taxes for every cent that they earn, so why shouldn't the waiters?", ">\n\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices.\n\nThe restaurants that try that go out of business as the skilled servers go to places that do tips and business dries up due to the higher up-front cost.", ">\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more? What up front cost you're talking about? If the tips are included in the prices and then wages paid later, the owners actually keep some of the money for a while that currently goes directly to the waiters as tips.\nAnd in any case what is this magical skill that American waiters possess that nobody else in the world can obtain but instead the restaurants work fine with service included in the prices and the service staff paid higher regular wages?", ">\n\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more?\n\nHow much more?\nWhat is the actual acceptable hourly wage for servers in the United States if tipping does not exist?", ">\n\nSo much that they get workers. That's how all other industries work. If you don't pay enough, you don't get workers from the labour market.\nI don't know what do you mean by \"acceptable\". I'd imagine that most servers would not accept a decrease of their income when switching from tips to wages. So, the employer could either pay that or lose his workers. Just like it works in all other industries.", ">\n\nI’m a good tipper and I absolutely hate tipping because of how out of hand it has become. Tipping in the drive thru? Tipping the same amount for a to go order as dine in service when I never even got a drink much less a refill - and the total after tax is what’s expected to be tipped on? (When did that change anyway?) I’m over all of it. I wish places would pay a living wage and we could eliminate tipping altogether. I rarely eat out anymore because of how ridiculous it has become.\nEdit: fixed typo “Al” to “all”", ">\n\nJust because they ask for tips doesn’t mean you need to tip. Be confident tipping what you feel is appropriate and sometimes that is nothing. If you enable the behavior it will keep spreading.", ">\n\nI agree with this, and IME most people don't react at all, let alone make a fuss over it. I think a lot of people are afraid of being lectured or some kind of confrontation, which is very unlikely to happen. Kind of like how they say, don't worry about what people think about you because they don't think about you as much as you think they do. Most people want to avoid a confrontation as much as you do.", ">\n\nYeah, having worked a fast food job years ago, before the iPad tipping norm, most of my time spent at the register was spent thinking about what I wanted to do when I got home and how to optimize whatever video game I was playing at the time iirc.", ">\n\n\nAnd let's be honest, it's kinda crazy to feel the need to tip someone who didn't really even provide a service for you, other than what is expected from them in the normal duties of their position.\n\nThis so much. I've been trying to pinpoint what felt wrong to me about the whole thing, and this is it", ">\n\nThe other day I bought a ridiculously overpriced bottle of water at a kiosk inside a bus station. I got a Square prompt for a tip. The article OP is referencing said it would be “miserly” not to tip in that instance. Fuck that.", ">\n\nBut hey, that attendant had to take your card and swipe it! Oh wait... they don't even do that anymore...." ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price.", ">\n\nWell if you're expected to tip 20% then the price is the same. \nAlso the other thing nobody seems to want to say is that, at least for large corporations, if the wages were slightly more normalized across the company structure they could pay workers more without increasing costs. CEOs and manager types would have to accept not getting huge bonuses etc, but it's fairer overall and would help stabilize society. And let's face it, I don't care if they can't buy a third home or a yacht", ">\n\nFirst, restaurants and other food service institutions generally make razor thin margins. You don't have CEOs taking massive bonuses.\nSecond, most skilled tipped staff today would oppose getting rid of tips. It's a difficult to job to do well and a skilled waitress or bartender can make bank from tips at a high end place. Getting rid of tips is basically asking them to take a massive pay cut.", ">\n\nThen why does the entire planet do ‘service’ jobs perfectly fine, without tipping culture of USA. But America can’t? \nDon’t give me that shit. \nWe pay our staff a liveable wage, the cost is put on the menu. Stop making lame excuses. The staff still receive decent tips, obviously not as much as USA workers, buts it’s not a necessity and it’s just like a nice bonus at the end of the night/week/month (however your venue chooses to divvy it up). \nYou’ll literally pay the exact same as a customer. It’s just that instead of throwing down 20% tip. That 20% is factored into food costs and the price of meals. It’s basic math. \nEy? The entire world functions just fine. But you guys can’t? Get stuffed, mate.", ">\n\nIt's momentum. You would find it nearly as impossible to switch over to a system like ours, but we do it just fine. People are resistant to change and even when everyone would like to change, the game theory here punishes anyone who tries to be ahead of the curve. So even if most restaurant owners would be happy to switch, they all want to be the last ones to do it. \nAlso, you've got servers in California getting $15 an hour minimum wage + 20% tips on prices that are inflated to cover that $15. These people are making $80k a year (based on your linguistic choices I'm going to assume you're Australian, so this is about $120,000 a year in Digeridollars). They make more than most of the college graduates in this country. Good luck getting them to give that shit up without riots.", ">\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices. Customers pay that as the total cost to go to a restaurant is exactly the same as it was before. So the total money collected by the restaurant is the same as price+tip was in the past. Then it's up to the owner and the staff to divide that. If it's so that the staff is willing to fight (=to go on strike) if the switch would mean a decrease in their income, then the owner has no choice but to pay them wages that equal the old wage + tip. \nThe only thing that would change is that the waiters would not be able to dodge taxes by taking some or all of the tips without paying income tax for that. And that's how it should be. The college graduates that you mention pay taxes for every cent that they earn, so why shouldn't the waiters?", ">\n\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices.\n\nThe restaurants that try that go out of business as the skilled servers go to places that do tips and business dries up due to the higher up-front cost.", ">\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more? What up front cost you're talking about? If the tips are included in the prices and then wages paid later, the owners actually keep some of the money for a while that currently goes directly to the waiters as tips.\nAnd in any case what is this magical skill that American waiters possess that nobody else in the world can obtain but instead the restaurants work fine with service included in the prices and the service staff paid higher regular wages?", ">\n\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more?\n\nHow much more?\nWhat is the actual acceptable hourly wage for servers in the United States if tipping does not exist?", ">\n\nSo much that they get workers. That's how all other industries work. If you don't pay enough, you don't get workers from the labour market.\nI don't know what do you mean by \"acceptable\". I'd imagine that most servers would not accept a decrease of their income when switching from tips to wages. So, the employer could either pay that or lose his workers. Just like it works in all other industries.", ">\n\nI’m a good tipper and I absolutely hate tipping because of how out of hand it has become. Tipping in the drive thru? Tipping the same amount for a to go order as dine in service when I never even got a drink much less a refill - and the total after tax is what’s expected to be tipped on? (When did that change anyway?) I’m over all of it. I wish places would pay a living wage and we could eliminate tipping altogether. I rarely eat out anymore because of how ridiculous it has become.\nEdit: fixed typo “Al” to “all”", ">\n\nJust because they ask for tips doesn’t mean you need to tip. Be confident tipping what you feel is appropriate and sometimes that is nothing. If you enable the behavior it will keep spreading.", ">\n\nI agree with this, and IME most people don't react at all, let alone make a fuss over it. I think a lot of people are afraid of being lectured or some kind of confrontation, which is very unlikely to happen. Kind of like how they say, don't worry about what people think about you because they don't think about you as much as you think they do. Most people want to avoid a confrontation as much as you do.", ">\n\nYeah, having worked a fast food job years ago, before the iPad tipping norm, most of my time spent at the register was spent thinking about what I wanted to do when I got home and how to optimize whatever video game I was playing at the time iirc.", ">\n\n\nAnd let's be honest, it's kinda crazy to feel the need to tip someone who didn't really even provide a service for you, other than what is expected from them in the normal duties of their position.\n\nThis so much. I've been trying to pinpoint what felt wrong to me about the whole thing, and this is it", ">\n\nThe other day I bought a ridiculously overpriced bottle of water at a kiosk inside a bus station. I got a Square prompt for a tip. The article OP is referencing said it would be “miserly” not to tip in that instance. Fuck that.", ">\n\nBut hey, that attendant had to take your card and swipe it! Oh wait... they don't even do that anymore....", ">\n\nSeriously! I don’t even think the guy even looked up from his phone besides to scan the water. Brutal." ]

[ "Still an act of appreciation on my end. Here it's illegal to force mandatory tips or add them to a bill, so I simply do not leave a tip unless the service I'm provided shows it's deserving of one. Why would I give an employee who rolls their eyes, mutters, is inattentive, etc. any extra money? For doing their job poorly?", ">\n\nCommercial law needs to forbid deceptive marketing of fake prices that are less than the real price. Consumers need to push back against deceptive advertising that excludes employee compensation, “resort charges”, and other strategies to advertise falsely low prices.", ">\n\nConsumers also need to stand their ground about what does and doesn't earn a tip. If you bring me something, okay, I'll tip. I don't tip at McDonalds, therefore of course I'm not going to tip at Starbucks or another place where I walk up and you bring me food at the counter. \nIt's also ugly how the register companies use dark patterns to discourage not tipping. (High contrast buttons for tips, background blending on \"skip\" or \"no tip\"", ">\n\nI don't disagree with you at all, but who will start? When my prices are 20% higher than the place across the street that drives customers to my competition. \nIt it was forced and everyone had to do it at once then it would work. But as it is today, any business that tries to go without tipping is at a serious disadvantage to the competition that doesn't and is able to advertise a lower price.", ">\n\nWell if you're expected to tip 20% then the price is the same. \nAlso the other thing nobody seems to want to say is that, at least for large corporations, if the wages were slightly more normalized across the company structure they could pay workers more without increasing costs. CEOs and manager types would have to accept not getting huge bonuses etc, but it's fairer overall and would help stabilize society. And let's face it, I don't care if they can't buy a third home or a yacht", ">\n\nFirst, restaurants and other food service institutions generally make razor thin margins. You don't have CEOs taking massive bonuses.\nSecond, most skilled tipped staff today would oppose getting rid of tips. It's a difficult to job to do well and a skilled waitress or bartender can make bank from tips at a high end place. Getting rid of tips is basically asking them to take a massive pay cut.", ">\n\nThen why does the entire planet do ‘service’ jobs perfectly fine, without tipping culture of USA. But America can’t? \nDon’t give me that shit. \nWe pay our staff a liveable wage, the cost is put on the menu. Stop making lame excuses. The staff still receive decent tips, obviously not as much as USA workers, buts it’s not a necessity and it’s just like a nice bonus at the end of the night/week/month (however your venue chooses to divvy it up). \nYou’ll literally pay the exact same as a customer. It’s just that instead of throwing down 20% tip. That 20% is factored into food costs and the price of meals. It’s basic math. \nEy? The entire world functions just fine. But you guys can’t? Get stuffed, mate.", ">\n\nIt's momentum. You would find it nearly as impossible to switch over to a system like ours, but we do it just fine. People are resistant to change and even when everyone would like to change, the game theory here punishes anyone who tries to be ahead of the curve. So even if most restaurant owners would be happy to switch, they all want to be the last ones to do it. \nAlso, you've got servers in California getting $15 an hour minimum wage + 20% tips on prices that are inflated to cover that $15. These people are making $80k a year (based on your linguistic choices I'm going to assume you're Australian, so this is about $120,000 a year in Digeridollars). They make more than most of the college graduates in this country. Good luck getting them to give that shit up without riots.", ">\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices. Customers pay that as the total cost to go to a restaurant is exactly the same as it was before. So the total money collected by the restaurant is the same as price+tip was in the past. Then it's up to the owner and the staff to divide that. If it's so that the staff is willing to fight (=to go on strike) if the switch would mean a decrease in their income, then the owner has no choice but to pay them wages that equal the old wage + tip. \nThe only thing that would change is that the waiters would not be able to dodge taxes by taking some or all of the tips without paying income tax for that. And that's how it should be. The college graduates that you mention pay taxes for every cent that they earn, so why shouldn't the waiters?", ">\n\n\nWhy would anyone need to give up anything? The restaurants include the service into the menu prices.\n\nThe restaurants that try that go out of business as the skilled servers go to places that do tips and business dries up due to the higher up-front cost.", ">\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more? What up front cost you're talking about? If the tips are included in the prices and then wages paid later, the owners actually keep some of the money for a while that currently goes directly to the waiters as tips.\nAnd in any case what is this magical skill that American waiters possess that nobody else in the world can obtain but instead the restaurants work fine with service included in the prices and the service staff paid higher regular wages?", ">\n\n\nWhy don't they pay the skilled servers more?\n\nHow much more?\nWhat is the actual acceptable hourly wage for servers in the United States if tipping does not exist?", ">\n\nSo much that they get workers. That's how all other industries work. If you don't pay enough, you don't get workers from the labour market.\nI don't know what do you mean by \"acceptable\". I'd imagine that most servers would not accept a decrease of their income when switching from tips to wages. So, the employer could either pay that or lose his workers. Just like it works in all other industries.", ">\n\nI’m a good tipper and I absolutely hate tipping because of how out of hand it has become. Tipping in the drive thru? Tipping the same amount for a to go order as dine in service when I never even got a drink much less a refill - and the total after tax is what’s expected to be tipped on? (When did that change anyway?) I’m over all of it. I wish places would pay a living wage and we could eliminate tipping altogether. I rarely eat out anymore because of how ridiculous it has become.\nEdit: fixed typo “Al” to “all”", ">\n\nJust because they ask for tips doesn’t mean you need to tip. Be confident tipping what you feel is appropriate and sometimes that is nothing. If you enable the behavior it will keep spreading.", ">\n\nI agree with this, and IME most people don't react at all, let alone make a fuss over it. I think a lot of people are afraid of being lectured or some kind of confrontation, which is very unlikely to happen. Kind of like how they say, don't worry about what people think about you because they don't think about you as much as you think they do. Most people want to avoid a confrontation as much as you do.", ">\n\nYeah, having worked a fast food job years ago, before the iPad tipping norm, most of my time spent at the register was spent thinking about what I wanted to do when I got home and how to optimize whatever video game I was playing at the time iirc.", ">\n\n\nAnd let's be honest, it's kinda crazy to feel the need to tip someone who didn't really even provide a service for you, other than what is expected from them in the normal duties of their position.\n\nThis so much. I've been trying to pinpoint what felt wrong to me about the whole thing, and this is it", ">\n\nThe other day I bought a ridiculously overpriced bottle of water at a kiosk inside a bus station. I got a Square prompt for a tip. The article OP is referencing said it would be “miserly” not to tip in that instance. Fuck that.", ">\n\nBut hey, that attendant had to take your card and swipe it! Oh wait... they don't even do that anymore....", ">\n\nSeriously! I don’t even think the guy even looked up from his phone besides to scan the water. Brutal.", ">\n\nMy ex's server friends hated when people would talk about getting rid of tipping in exchange for a higher wage as they work at a Steakhouse and even if they made 30 an hour it would pale in comparison to how much they got in tips from old fat rich dudes." ]