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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
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Practice drawing straight lines. Make two points, and draw a perfect straight line starting at one point and exactly ending at the other point.
Big thing for me is proportion. If I pay attention to anything, it’s the proportion.
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dhbyee
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
f3p39um
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Considering that you have knowledge of lighting fundamentals, these are the list imho to improve: 1. Drawing spheres, cylinders, cones, cubes, pyramids 2. " Asaro Head (Male and Female) 3. " Gestures/Line of Action 4. Figure Drawing 5. Contour Drawing 6. Drawing Silhouettes/Notan Rendering 7. Thumbnailing 8. Drawing Quick Portraits - Neutral Expression (5 - 10 mins each face) 9. Continuation of #8 but various extreme expressions 10. Live Drawing / Urban Sketching
I like doing cylinders. That way I can practice my curves and straight lines at the same time. You can intersect them for even more practice.
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dhbyee
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
f3n788x
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Try to shove a lot of stuff which is out of your comfort zone into a single piece
Considering that you have knowledge of lighting fundamentals, these are the list imho to improve: 1. Drawing spheres, cylinders, cones, cubes, pyramids 2. " Asaro Head (Male and Female) 3. " Gestures/Line of Action 4. Figure Drawing 5. Contour Drawing 6. Drawing Silhouettes/Notan Rendering 7. Thumbnailing 8. Drawing Quick Portraits - Neutral Expression (5 - 10 mins each face) 9. Continuation of #8 but various extreme expressions 10. Live Drawing / Urban Sketching
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dhbyee
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
f3m7u1a
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I'm no expert but maybe what I say might be helpful. Practicing regularly is more valuable than any one type of drawing. Find what you love to draw and make it a regular habit. From there you should see gradual improvement with practice and seeking advice about details you're not yet satisfied with. Just my 2¢
Considering that you have knowledge of lighting fundamentals, these are the list imho to improve: 1. Drawing spheres, cylinders, cones, cubes, pyramids 2. " Asaro Head (Male and Female) 3. " Gestures/Line of Action 4. Figure Drawing 5. Contour Drawing 6. Drawing Silhouettes/Notan Rendering 7. Thumbnailing 8. Drawing Quick Portraits - Neutral Expression (5 - 10 mins each face) 9. Continuation of #8 but various extreme expressions 10. Live Drawing / Urban Sketching
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dhbyee
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
f3m7lef
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Deliberate practice. There is no magic exercises or something like that. I found it helpful to write down the stuff I want to work on and narrow them down to small goals and just have at it. I suppose for exercises anything that reinforces the drawing from the shoulder, as well as ghosted lines exercises. You can warm up before a drawing session by doing the first 2 draw a box lessons?
Considering that you have knowledge of lighting fundamentals, these are the list imho to improve: 1. Drawing spheres, cylinders, cones, cubes, pyramids 2. " Asaro Head (Male and Female) 3. " Gestures/Line of Action 4. Figure Drawing 5. Contour Drawing 6. Drawing Silhouettes/Notan Rendering 7. Thumbnailing 8. Drawing Quick Portraits - Neutral Expression (5 - 10 mins each face) 9. Continuation of #8 but various extreme expressions 10. Live Drawing / Urban Sketching
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
f3majkr
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No, just practice. I wish there's a one-size-fit-all solution though. Going through your old stuffs to see what's wrong also works sometimes. You can also try to look at it objectively and work through any errors one at a time
Considering that you have knowledge of lighting fundamentals, these are the list imho to improve: 1. Drawing spheres, cylinders, cones, cubes, pyramids 2. " Asaro Head (Male and Female) 3. " Gestures/Line of Action 4. Figure Drawing 5. Contour Drawing 6. Drawing Silhouettes/Notan Rendering 7. Thumbnailing 8. Drawing Quick Portraits - Neutral Expression (5 - 10 mins each face) 9. Continuation of #8 but various extreme expressions 10. Live Drawing / Urban Sketching
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
f3oy3qz
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Squats
Considering that you have knowledge of lighting fundamentals, these are the list imho to improve: 1. Drawing spheres, cylinders, cones, cubes, pyramids 2. " Asaro Head (Male and Female) 3. " Gestures/Line of Action 4. Figure Drawing 5. Contour Drawing 6. Drawing Silhouettes/Notan Rendering 7. Thumbnailing 8. Drawing Quick Portraits - Neutral Expression (5 - 10 mins each face) 9. Continuation of #8 but various extreme expressions 10. Live Drawing / Urban Sketching
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dhbyee
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
f3p39um
f3m84oy
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Considering that you have knowledge of lighting fundamentals, these are the list imho to improve: 1. Drawing spheres, cylinders, cones, cubes, pyramids 2. " Asaro Head (Male and Female) 3. " Gestures/Line of Action 4. Figure Drawing 5. Contour Drawing 6. Drawing Silhouettes/Notan Rendering 7. Thumbnailing 8. Drawing Quick Portraits - Neutral Expression (5 - 10 mins each face) 9. Continuation of #8 but various extreme expressions 10. Live Drawing / Urban Sketching
Practice drawing straight lines. Make two points, and draw a perfect straight line starting at one point and exactly ending at the other point.
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dhbyee
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
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Considering that you have knowledge of lighting fundamentals, these are the list imho to improve: 1. Drawing spheres, cylinders, cones, cubes, pyramids 2. " Asaro Head (Male and Female) 3. " Gestures/Line of Action 4. Figure Drawing 5. Contour Drawing 6. Drawing Silhouettes/Notan Rendering 7. Thumbnailing 8. Drawing Quick Portraits - Neutral Expression (5 - 10 mins each face) 9. Continuation of #8 but various extreme expressions 10. Live Drawing / Urban Sketching
If you want specific exercises check out The Natural Way to Draw by Kimon Nicolaides.
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
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The most fundamental tip I can give, personally is to have fun. Experiment and don't feel pressured to make it good. I mean yes of course it's good to want to get better but at the end of the day you'll stay more motivated if you're having fun as opposed to "I need to pay the bills". Some of the things I've learned are just from doodling and trying different things, styles, different writing utensils. You never know what may surprise you.
Considering that you have knowledge of lighting fundamentals, these are the list imho to improve: 1. Drawing spheres, cylinders, cones, cubes, pyramids 2. " Asaro Head (Male and Female) 3. " Gestures/Line of Action 4. Figure Drawing 5. Contour Drawing 6. Drawing Silhouettes/Notan Rendering 7. Thumbnailing 8. Drawing Quick Portraits - Neutral Expression (5 - 10 mins each face) 9. Continuation of #8 but various extreme expressions 10. Live Drawing / Urban Sketching
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
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Considering that you have knowledge of lighting fundamentals, these are the list imho to improve: 1. Drawing spheres, cylinders, cones, cubes, pyramids 2. " Asaro Head (Male and Female) 3. " Gestures/Line of Action 4. Figure Drawing 5. Contour Drawing 6. Drawing Silhouettes/Notan Rendering 7. Thumbnailing 8. Drawing Quick Portraits - Neutral Expression (5 - 10 mins each face) 9. Continuation of #8 but various extreme expressions 10. Live Drawing / Urban Sketching
When it comes to animals, or even people, drawing from life can really help you improve. It's a challenge - while you can ask a person to stay still, animals tend to move whenever and however they want. The key to working with that is to train yourself to just focus on REALLY observing them - like sit and watch them for a while, make mental notes of what you see, then draw and write down said notes in your sketchbook. Make your study sketches mostly about capturing their form and their essence/energy, rather than only small details - you'll pick up on those with time as you go along and keep watching them. In figure-drawing classes, they encourage you focus on these forms and on getting them down first and fast - they'll have you do rough gestures of models for merely minutes and fractions of a minute each, especially as warmup exercises, before you sit down and do more detailed work. The point is the same - get the main idea down so it's obvious what your subject is supposed to be, give it some life, and train your eye to pick up on these things quickly, translate them to your canvas quickly. If you haven't taken any figure drawing classes before, I highly recommend you look into them - they'll help you pick up quite a few skills that will help with drawing multiple other subjects in addition to people.
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
f3n788x
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Try to shove a lot of stuff which is out of your comfort zone into a single piece
I like doing cylinders. That way I can practice my curves and straight lines at the same time. You can intersect them for even more practice.
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
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I'm no expert but maybe what I say might be helpful. Practicing regularly is more valuable than any one type of drawing. Find what you love to draw and make it a regular habit. From there you should see gradual improvement with practice and seeking advice about details you're not yet satisfied with. Just my 2¢
I like doing cylinders. That way I can practice my curves and straight lines at the same time. You can intersect them for even more practice.
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
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Deliberate practice. There is no magic exercises or something like that. I found it helpful to write down the stuff I want to work on and narrow them down to small goals and just have at it. I suppose for exercises anything that reinforces the drawing from the shoulder, as well as ghosted lines exercises. You can warm up before a drawing session by doing the first 2 draw a box lessons?
I like doing cylinders. That way I can practice my curves and straight lines at the same time. You can intersect them for even more practice.
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
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I like doing cylinders. That way I can practice my curves and straight lines at the same time. You can intersect them for even more practice.
No, just practice. I wish there's a one-size-fit-all solution though. Going through your old stuffs to see what's wrong also works sometimes. You can also try to look at it objectively and work through any errors one at a time
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Practice drawing straight lines. Make two points, and draw a perfect straight line starting at one point and exactly ending at the other point.
I like doing cylinders. That way I can practice my curves and straight lines at the same time. You can intersect them for even more practice.
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
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Try to shove a lot of stuff which is out of your comfort zone into a single piece
I'm no expert but maybe what I say might be helpful. Practicing regularly is more valuable than any one type of drawing. Find what you love to draw and make it a regular habit. From there you should see gradual improvement with practice and seeking advice about details you're not yet satisfied with. Just my 2¢
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dhbyee
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
f3n788x
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Try to shove a lot of stuff which is out of your comfort zone into a single piece
Deliberate practice. There is no magic exercises or something like that. I found it helpful to write down the stuff I want to work on and narrow them down to small goals and just have at it. I suppose for exercises anything that reinforces the drawing from the shoulder, as well as ghosted lines exercises. You can warm up before a drawing session by doing the first 2 draw a box lessons?
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
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No, just practice. I wish there's a one-size-fit-all solution though. Going through your old stuffs to see what's wrong also works sometimes. You can also try to look at it objectively and work through any errors one at a time
Try to shove a lot of stuff which is out of your comfort zone into a single piece
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
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Practice drawing straight lines. Make two points, and draw a perfect straight line starting at one point and exactly ending at the other point.
Try to shove a lot of stuff which is out of your comfort zone into a single piece
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Deliberate practice. There is no magic exercises or something like that. I found it helpful to write down the stuff I want to work on and narrow them down to small goals and just have at it. I suppose for exercises anything that reinforces the drawing from the shoulder, as well as ghosted lines exercises. You can warm up before a drawing session by doing the first 2 draw a box lessons?
I'm no expert but maybe what I say might be helpful. Practicing regularly is more valuable than any one type of drawing. Find what you love to draw and make it a regular habit. From there you should see gradual improvement with practice and seeking advice about details you're not yet satisfied with. Just my 2¢
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No, just practice. I wish there's a one-size-fit-all solution though. Going through your old stuffs to see what's wrong also works sometimes. You can also try to look at it objectively and work through any errors one at a time
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
f3majkr
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No, just practice. I wish there's a one-size-fit-all solution though. Going through your old stuffs to see what's wrong also works sometimes. You can also try to look at it objectively and work through any errors one at a time
Practice drawing straight lines. Make two points, and draw a perfect straight line starting at one point and exactly ending at the other point.
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
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Practice drawing straight lines. Make two points, and draw a perfect straight line starting at one point and exactly ending at the other point.
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dhbyee
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
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Squats
If you want specific exercises check out The Natural Way to Draw by Kimon Nicolaides.
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dhbyee
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Can you suggest any specific exercise to improve most of the drawing skills?
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When it comes to animals, or even people, drawing from life can really help you improve. It's a challenge - while you can ask a person to stay still, animals tend to move whenever and however they want. The key to working with that is to train yourself to just focus on REALLY observing them - like sit and watch them for a while, make mental notes of what you see, then draw and write down said notes in your sketchbook. Make your study sketches mostly about capturing their form and their essence/energy, rather than only small details - you'll pick up on those with time as you go along and keep watching them. In figure-drawing classes, they encourage you focus on these forms and on getting them down first and fast - they'll have you do rough gestures of models for merely minutes and fractions of a minute each, especially as warmup exercises, before you sit down and do more detailed work. The point is the same - get the main idea down so it's obvious what your subject is supposed to be, give it some life, and train your eye to pick up on these things quickly, translate them to your canvas quickly. If you haven't taken any figure drawing classes before, I highly recommend you look into them - they'll help you pick up quite a few skills that will help with drawing multiple other subjects in addition to people.
The most fundamental tip I can give, personally is to have fun. Experiment and don't feel pressured to make it good. I mean yes of course it's good to want to get better but at the end of the day you'll stay more motivated if you're having fun as opposed to "I need to pay the bills". Some of the things I've learned are just from doodling and trying different things, styles, different writing utensils. You never know what may surprise you.
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is drawabox good for getting better at anatomy and drawing stylized characters? I should add that I would not use it to learn to draw, but to improve my skills, I heard that it will help with perspective, so that means it's worth it right? I guess I just want to make it clear that I want to focus on figure even though this isn't focusing on that. If it will significantly improve my skills then I would consider it worth it.
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If you ONLY take this course? No. But pick up some anatomy books or courses and do those as well. I took Proko's anatomy course and then i took the drawabox course. After that i came back to the anatomy course and it was a lot easier. Proko's course, Figure Drawing Design and Invention, i found the most helpful along with Drawabox.
**To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.*
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is drawabox good for getting better at anatomy and drawing stylized characters? I should add that I would not use it to learn to draw, but to improve my skills, I heard that it will help with perspective, so that means it's worth it right? I guess I just want to make it clear that I want to focus on figure even though this isn't focusing on that. If it will significantly improve my skills then I would consider it worth it.
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Drawabox has been integral to my technical progress. There are other courses and exercises I'm following online, including anatomy, and I constantly use the technical skills Drawabox teaches that these courses seem to assume I would already know. Exactly as Uncomfortable describes.
**To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.*
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is drawabox good for getting better at anatomy and drawing stylized characters? I should add that I would not use it to learn to draw, but to improve my skills, I heard that it will help with perspective, so that means it's worth it right? I guess I just want to make it clear that I want to focus on figure even though this isn't focusing on that. If it will significantly improve my skills then I would consider it worth it.
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**To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.*
It should provide a good foundation for improving your overall drawing skills, but especially your line quality, spatial drawing skills, and structure. What you do with those skills will depend on what you study after (or during) the course.
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is drawabox good for getting better at anatomy and drawing stylized characters? I should add that I would not use it to learn to draw, but to improve my skills, I heard that it will help with perspective, so that means it's worth it right? I guess I just want to make it clear that I want to focus on figure even though this isn't focusing on that. If it will significantly improve my skills then I would consider it worth it.
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It will help with visualizing and constructing forms in perspective with correct proportions. I think you need to have some base level of skill in construction before you can actually properly learn anatomy. For stylization, just do intensive studies of art from artists you like. Dont focus on style, just focus on drawing the best you can, and your style will naturally emerge.
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If you draw boxes and cylinders and spheres in perspective and get a solid intuitive grasp of how they can fit together and what they would look like from imagination, then you can simplify figures and get their proportions and foreshortening and all that more accurately. You don’t need to run through the whole course but lessons 1 and 2 to get the info and then just draw boxes and cylinders a lot as practice to see more clearly. It’s easily the most important foundation in trying make things look 3D imo
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is drawabox good for getting better at anatomy and drawing stylized characters? I should add that I would not use it to learn to draw, but to improve my skills, I heard that it will help with perspective, so that means it's worth it right? I guess I just want to make it clear that I want to focus on figure even though this isn't focusing on that. If it will significantly improve my skills then I would consider it worth it.
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I haven’t found draw box helpful for this but that’s just my experience, I’d say give it a go
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is drawabox good for getting better at anatomy and drawing stylized characters? I should add that I would not use it to learn to draw, but to improve my skills, I heard that it will help with perspective, so that means it's worth it right? I guess I just want to make it clear that I want to focus on figure even though this isn't focusing on that. If it will significantly improve my skills then I would consider it worth it.
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I started learning art seriously about two months ago with gesture via Proko - everything was okay until the "robo bean" lesson, where Proko wants you to draw the pelvis + chest area using, you've guessed it, boxes. Of course I could not even visualize what a box would look like in perspective, let alone draw it. I can already see a lot of progress with Drawabox and I believe that the robo bean lesson will be easy peasy once I've finished the 250 boxes challenge. To add onto that, I was also studying Hampton's Figure Drawing: Design and Invention, and very early into the process he suggests doing exercises of: varying sizes of spheres, ellipses, rotating ellipses (cylinders), combining forms and falling boxes (basically rotated boxes exercise). All of these are studied within lesson 1 and 2 of Drawabox. Basically: you need this course to draw the human body (according to multiple sources), and you need to know how to draw the human body realistically in order to be able to stylize it. So yes, I think you should strongly consider this course.
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is drawabox good for getting better at anatomy and drawing stylized characters? I should add that I would not use it to learn to draw, but to improve my skills, I heard that it will help with perspective, so that means it's worth it right? I guess I just want to make it clear that I want to focus on figure even though this isn't focusing on that. If it will significantly improve my skills then I would consider it worth it.
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I haven’t found draw box helpful for this but that’s just my experience, I’d say give it a go
If you ONLY take this course? No. But pick up some anatomy books or courses and do those as well. I took Proko's anatomy course and then i took the drawabox course. After that i came back to the anatomy course and it was a lot easier. Proko's course, Figure Drawing Design and Invention, i found the most helpful along with Drawabox.
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is drawabox good for getting better at anatomy and drawing stylized characters? I should add that I would not use it to learn to draw, but to improve my skills, I heard that it will help with perspective, so that means it's worth it right? I guess I just want to make it clear that I want to focus on figure even though this isn't focusing on that. If it will significantly improve my skills then I would consider it worth it.
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Drawabox has been integral to my technical progress. There are other courses and exercises I'm following online, including anatomy, and I constantly use the technical skills Drawabox teaches that these courses seem to assume I would already know. Exactly as Uncomfortable describes.
I haven’t found draw box helpful for this but that’s just my experience, I’d say give it a go
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I haven’t found draw box helpful for this but that’s just my experience, I’d say give it a go
It should provide a good foundation for improving your overall drawing skills, but especially your line quality, spatial drawing skills, and structure. What you do with those skills will depend on what you study after (or during) the course.
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is drawabox good for getting better at anatomy and drawing stylized characters? I should add that I would not use it to learn to draw, but to improve my skills, I heard that it will help with perspective, so that means it's worth it right? I guess I just want to make it clear that I want to focus on figure even though this isn't focusing on that. If it will significantly improve my skills then I would consider it worth it.
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I haven’t found draw box helpful for this but that’s just my experience, I’d say give it a go
It will help with visualizing and constructing forms in perspective with correct proportions. I think you need to have some base level of skill in construction before you can actually properly learn anatomy. For stylization, just do intensive studies of art from artists you like. Dont focus on style, just focus on drawing the best you can, and your style will naturally emerge.
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is drawabox good for getting better at anatomy and drawing stylized characters? I should add that I would not use it to learn to draw, but to improve my skills, I heard that it will help with perspective, so that means it's worth it right? I guess I just want to make it clear that I want to focus on figure even though this isn't focusing on that. If it will significantly improve my skills then I would consider it worth it.
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If you draw boxes and cylinders and spheres in perspective and get a solid intuitive grasp of how they can fit together and what they would look like from imagination, then you can simplify figures and get their proportions and foreshortening and all that more accurately. You don’t need to run through the whole course but lessons 1 and 2 to get the info and then just draw boxes and cylinders a lot as practice to see more clearly. It’s easily the most important foundation in trying make things look 3D imo
I haven’t found draw box helpful for this but that’s just my experience, I’d say give it a go
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Question: Any figure drawing/anatomy courses that you recommend while doing drawabox? I'm about to start on the 250 box challenge tomorrow, I heard it's going to take a while to finish. So i decided to do something along that, I want start on figure drawing again. Any courses or videos on YouTube that y'all recommend?
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Love Life Drawing Richard Smitheman The Drawing Database Robert Beverly Hale's Artistic Anatomy Course Proko A quick note on Proko. Stick with his free content on figure drawing fundamentals and the first two channels I mentioned. I can't recommend his paid figure drawing fundamentals course. I was pretty disappointed with the amount of content. A lot of the sections were very skimpy in my opinion. No shade meant against Stan himself. He seems like a great guy and I don't want to discourage anybody from supporting him if you want to thank him for all his free content. His artistic anatomy course is very thorough and well worth the price. It is a fantastic value.
I'd say wait just a little longer till your in lesson 2, organic shapes and cross contours show up alot in the human figure. Personally I haven't gotten around to any courses yet, ~~because im poor~~ If I were to take a shot in the dark id say that proko's figure drawing course would be the way to go, very construction orientated so it should be a good complement to drawabox. I'll leave some things that helped me study the figure, a good thing to note about figure drawing is that there are many-many different ways to go about it, so if one method dosn't work by all means try another one. https://youtu.be/0660Fuih7qo https://youtu.be/a75DbEmoz4k These videos cover the bean/sack methood of drawing the torso, note that these are for *the motion* of the torso, wont work too well for neutral poses ~~all my homies hate neutral poses~~ https://youtu.be/NvjB0rj6yAc Much like proko, Alphonso Dunn has a ton of free content for you to peruse through, not much else to say, check em out. https://b-ok.cc/ This has a shit ton of completely free books, Couldn't exactly tell you where to start. Maybe Loomis, Maybe FORCE or perhaps A Roadside Picnic. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf-cfRJyxATGTgWGiFkFUWA Sometimes you need help in art that's just a bit beyond learning how to make pretty pictures, y'know the kinds of issues that make you feel like a crummy artist. Adam is there for you. And hey! if you dont need that kind of help ~~yet~~ hes a great drawing buddy if you like to have some background noise while you study. Thats about all I could think of right now, take care and get on those boxes. You'll be done before you know it! Peace.
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Question: Any figure drawing/anatomy courses that you recommend while doing drawabox? I'm about to start on the 250 box challenge tomorrow, I heard it's going to take a while to finish. So i decided to do something along that, I want start on figure drawing again. Any courses or videos on YouTube that y'all recommend?
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I'd say wait just a little longer till your in lesson 2, organic shapes and cross contours show up alot in the human figure. Personally I haven't gotten around to any courses yet, ~~because im poor~~ If I were to take a shot in the dark id say that proko's figure drawing course would be the way to go, very construction orientated so it should be a good complement to drawabox. I'll leave some things that helped me study the figure, a good thing to note about figure drawing is that there are many-many different ways to go about it, so if one method dosn't work by all means try another one. https://youtu.be/0660Fuih7qo https://youtu.be/a75DbEmoz4k These videos cover the bean/sack methood of drawing the torso, note that these are for *the motion* of the torso, wont work too well for neutral poses ~~all my homies hate neutral poses~~ https://youtu.be/NvjB0rj6yAc Much like proko, Alphonso Dunn has a ton of free content for you to peruse through, not much else to say, check em out. https://b-ok.cc/ This has a shit ton of completely free books, Couldn't exactly tell you where to start. Maybe Loomis, Maybe FORCE or perhaps A Roadside Picnic. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf-cfRJyxATGTgWGiFkFUWA Sometimes you need help in art that's just a bit beyond learning how to make pretty pictures, y'know the kinds of issues that make you feel like a crummy artist. Adam is there for you. And hey! if you dont need that kind of help ~~yet~~ hes a great drawing buddy if you like to have some background noise while you study. Thats about all I could think of right now, take care and get on those boxes. You'll be done before you know it! Peace.
I’ve been doing the free Proko gesture and anatomy stuff on Youtube, it makes a nice break from the drawing of boxes AND you get a feel for how early drawabox applies in so many different situations/applications
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Question: Any figure drawing/anatomy courses that you recommend while doing drawabox? I'm about to start on the 250 box challenge tomorrow, I heard it's going to take a while to finish. So i decided to do something along that, I want start on figure drawing again. Any courses or videos on YouTube that y'all recommend?
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Brent Eviston is excellent on skillshare. Be warned that you get many free coupons just by searching skillshare coupons... I used 40% off an up front annual cost, but there's also 2 month free coupons, which would allow you to do a few courses and run.
I’ve been doing the free Proko gesture and anatomy stuff on Youtube, it makes a nice break from the drawing of boxes AND you get a feel for how early drawabox applies in so many different situations/applications
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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One thing stands out here. I don't believe there is such a thing as a "bad" drawing. There is only a snapshot in time of where you are on a journey that has no measurable ending point. Any critique (even one's own) should be taken with a grain salt. Everyone brings their own unique life experiences to their commentary. Critique should go through the fi! Ter of "is this actually useful to me?" I also struggle with GAD and major depression. I am often way too hard on myself regarding critique of my own work. In my experience, it is always more valuable to put pencil to paper (or stylus to tablet) and produce as much as possible rather than to try to always be "better". Creativity is NOT measured on a scale that increases in a linear way. That's a myth. Quantity matters far more than quality in actually making progress toward being able to draw what we want. Anything that causes us to hesitate or to stop should be looked at with suspicion.
I think you’re thinking too much here. Are you able to drive? If so, can you go to places you’ve never been before? I thought my anxiety and my diagnosis or permanent brain damage would prevent these things for me. To my surprise, I can function fairly well as long as I take the many failures as just data points, or GPS coordinates rather than a failure to achieve a goal. If I get off track I just say, “That’s OK. This isn’t my destination, but I know how to go back to the last place I was still on track.” Although I have to say that sometimes I’ll wallow in a little self pity, or self-condemnation. “You idiot! This isn’t where you were supposed to be by now! What’s wrong with you?” I kind of enjoy getting to this part because I know what’s wrong with me. I have permanent brain damage. Then I have a little internal chuckle, and remind myself that all I need to do is get back on track and the path still exists, nobody has erected some massive mountain range to keep me where I am. As long as I can ask and answer, “What’s the next step?” I can calm down and methodically retrace my route. I have to remind myself that the journey isn’t a straight line for anyone. Mine just may have more detours or be a bit more circuitous than most, but when it invariably gets me to where I want to go, it’s fine. I’ve also made a habit of looking around when off course and find that I enjoy what I see. Just continually remind yourself that this is a detour rather than a dead end. It’s only a dead end if you stop there. It works for travel as well as trying to learn something or improve something.
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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I think you’re thinking too much here. Are you able to drive? If so, can you go to places you’ve never been before? I thought my anxiety and my diagnosis or permanent brain damage would prevent these things for me. To my surprise, I can function fairly well as long as I take the many failures as just data points, or GPS coordinates rather than a failure to achieve a goal. If I get off track I just say, “That’s OK. This isn’t my destination, but I know how to go back to the last place I was still on track.” Although I have to say that sometimes I’ll wallow in a little self pity, or self-condemnation. “You idiot! This isn’t where you were supposed to be by now! What’s wrong with you?” I kind of enjoy getting to this part because I know what’s wrong with me. I have permanent brain damage. Then I have a little internal chuckle, and remind myself that all I need to do is get back on track and the path still exists, nobody has erected some massive mountain range to keep me where I am. As long as I can ask and answer, “What’s the next step?” I can calm down and methodically retrace my route. I have to remind myself that the journey isn’t a straight line for anyone. Mine just may have more detours or be a bit more circuitous than most, but when it invariably gets me to where I want to go, it’s fine. I’ve also made a habit of looking around when off course and find that I enjoy what I see. Just continually remind yourself that this is a detour rather than a dead end. It’s only a dead end if you stop there. It works for travel as well as trying to learn something or improve something.
I think you have misunderstood that comment. It is rather an advice to not try to use drawing as self therapy that is meant to replace seeking professional help. "I heard that drawing is good for mental health so I will cure myself with it instead going to the doctor." kind of attitude. The reality is that drawing will not cure you and it can be source of depression on it own. So if you are coming with that attitude then it will be better for you if you don't do it, but if you are aware that doing art is not magical "fix myself button" then you are fine to go.
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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I think you’re thinking too much here. Are you able to drive? If so, can you go to places you’ve never been before? I thought my anxiety and my diagnosis or permanent brain damage would prevent these things for me. To my surprise, I can function fairly well as long as I take the many failures as just data points, or GPS coordinates rather than a failure to achieve a goal. If I get off track I just say, “That’s OK. This isn’t my destination, but I know how to go back to the last place I was still on track.” Although I have to say that sometimes I’ll wallow in a little self pity, or self-condemnation. “You idiot! This isn’t where you were supposed to be by now! What’s wrong with you?” I kind of enjoy getting to this part because I know what’s wrong with me. I have permanent brain damage. Then I have a little internal chuckle, and remind myself that all I need to do is get back on track and the path still exists, nobody has erected some massive mountain range to keep me where I am. As long as I can ask and answer, “What’s the next step?” I can calm down and methodically retrace my route. I have to remind myself that the journey isn’t a straight line for anyone. Mine just may have more detours or be a bit more circuitous than most, but when it invariably gets me to where I want to go, it’s fine. I’ve also made a habit of looking around when off course and find that I enjoy what I see. Just continually remind yourself that this is a detour rather than a dead end. It’s only a dead end if you stop there. It works for travel as well as trying to learn something or improve something.
I wouldn't put it off, but take some to recognize what happens when you fail, how it triggers you, etc. Then take a bit more time and define failure for you as it relates to this program. It can be as simple as "Failure for me is stopping completely, but rest days are allowed". You're going to draw a bunch of hot messes as apart of this process and that's more than OK, it's expected and requested. Since you already identified that critique is a trigger for you, just put that piece off the table for now. You can get plenty of good out of the system without subjecting yourself to something that will traumatize you to that level. And goes without saying, but this would be a great thing to bring up with a therapist if you have one and have them help you structure some guardrails to protect your mental health.
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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I think you’re thinking too much here. Are you able to drive? If so, can you go to places you’ve never been before? I thought my anxiety and my diagnosis or permanent brain damage would prevent these things for me. To my surprise, I can function fairly well as long as I take the many failures as just data points, or GPS coordinates rather than a failure to achieve a goal. If I get off track I just say, “That’s OK. This isn’t my destination, but I know how to go back to the last place I was still on track.” Although I have to say that sometimes I’ll wallow in a little self pity, or self-condemnation. “You idiot! This isn’t where you were supposed to be by now! What’s wrong with you?” I kind of enjoy getting to this part because I know what’s wrong with me. I have permanent brain damage. Then I have a little internal chuckle, and remind myself that all I need to do is get back on track and the path still exists, nobody has erected some massive mountain range to keep me where I am. As long as I can ask and answer, “What’s the next step?” I can calm down and methodically retrace my route. I have to remind myself that the journey isn’t a straight line for anyone. Mine just may have more detours or be a bit more circuitous than most, but when it invariably gets me to where I want to go, it’s fine. I’ve also made a habit of looking around when off course and find that I enjoy what I see. Just continually remind yourself that this is a detour rather than a dead end. It’s only a dead end if you stop there. It works for travel as well as trying to learn something or improve something.
90% of my drawing is doodling. When I capture a moment I can focus, then I usually do. I take solace in that my procrastination from drawing is still to draw
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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Drawing pretty much is my outlet. And would feel naked if I had to give it up or put it aside. Which I would never do. Which By the way I don’t think he’s saying that.
I think you’re thinking too much here. Are you able to drive? If so, can you go to places you’ve never been before? I thought my anxiety and my diagnosis or permanent brain damage would prevent these things for me. To my surprise, I can function fairly well as long as I take the many failures as just data points, or GPS coordinates rather than a failure to achieve a goal. If I get off track I just say, “That’s OK. This isn’t my destination, but I know how to go back to the last place I was still on track.” Although I have to say that sometimes I’ll wallow in a little self pity, or self-condemnation. “You idiot! This isn’t where you were supposed to be by now! What’s wrong with you?” I kind of enjoy getting to this part because I know what’s wrong with me. I have permanent brain damage. Then I have a little internal chuckle, and remind myself that all I need to do is get back on track and the path still exists, nobody has erected some massive mountain range to keep me where I am. As long as I can ask and answer, “What’s the next step?” I can calm down and methodically retrace my route. I have to remind myself that the journey isn’t a straight line for anyone. Mine just may have more detours or be a bit more circuitous than most, but when it invariably gets me to where I want to go, it’s fine. I’ve also made a habit of looking around when off course and find that I enjoy what I see. Just continually remind yourself that this is a detour rather than a dead end. It’s only a dead end if you stop there. It works for travel as well as trying to learn something or improve something.
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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I think you’re thinking too much here. Are you able to drive? If so, can you go to places you’ve never been before? I thought my anxiety and my diagnosis or permanent brain damage would prevent these things for me. To my surprise, I can function fairly well as long as I take the many failures as just data points, or GPS coordinates rather than a failure to achieve a goal. If I get off track I just say, “That’s OK. This isn’t my destination, but I know how to go back to the last place I was still on track.” Although I have to say that sometimes I’ll wallow in a little self pity, or self-condemnation. “You idiot! This isn’t where you were supposed to be by now! What’s wrong with you?” I kind of enjoy getting to this part because I know what’s wrong with me. I have permanent brain damage. Then I have a little internal chuckle, and remind myself that all I need to do is get back on track and the path still exists, nobody has erected some massive mountain range to keep me where I am. As long as I can ask and answer, “What’s the next step?” I can calm down and methodically retrace my route. I have to remind myself that the journey isn’t a straight line for anyone. Mine just may have more detours or be a bit more circuitous than most, but when it invariably gets me to where I want to go, it’s fine. I’ve also made a habit of looking around when off course and find that I enjoy what I see. Just continually remind yourself that this is a detour rather than a dead end. It’s only a dead end if you stop there. It works for travel as well as trying to learn something or improve something.
Addressing your last point that you may not know if you're "good" or not is valid. Sometimes i sit down because I'm motivated but as I'm drawing, I realize I'm actually in a pretty critical or stressed state and my anxiety just wanted me to do something productive. So I'll switch to cleaning where I won't be so hard on myself. Other days have been poor and stressful and my mind is racing but then I sit down to draw and find it relaxing and fun and simple. Everything melts away into boxes. So you may not always know. You're definition of good will change. Sometimes you won't know until you actually have the paper and pen where your head is actually at and if you're in a place to draw. Some days you'll only have 10 minutes before you're tired and need to stop. Other days you might draw for hours. So hopefully you don't mind being flexible and forgiving with yourself - no matter what kind of day you're having :)
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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Drawing should be fun. Art should be fun. If you’re taking it too seriously, remember that.
I think you’re thinking too much here. Are you able to drive? If so, can you go to places you’ve never been before? I thought my anxiety and my diagnosis or permanent brain damage would prevent these things for me. To my surprise, I can function fairly well as long as I take the many failures as just data points, or GPS coordinates rather than a failure to achieve a goal. If I get off track I just say, “That’s OK. This isn’t my destination, but I know how to go back to the last place I was still on track.” Although I have to say that sometimes I’ll wallow in a little self pity, or self-condemnation. “You idiot! This isn’t where you were supposed to be by now! What’s wrong with you?” I kind of enjoy getting to this part because I know what’s wrong with me. I have permanent brain damage. Then I have a little internal chuckle, and remind myself that all I need to do is get back on track and the path still exists, nobody has erected some massive mountain range to keep me where I am. As long as I can ask and answer, “What’s the next step?” I can calm down and methodically retrace my route. I have to remind myself that the journey isn’t a straight line for anyone. Mine just may have more detours or be a bit more circuitous than most, but when it invariably gets me to where I want to go, it’s fine. I’ve also made a habit of looking around when off course and find that I enjoy what I see. Just continually remind yourself that this is a detour rather than a dead end. It’s only a dead end if you stop there. It works for travel as well as trying to learn something or improve something.
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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One thing stands out here. I don't believe there is such a thing as a "bad" drawing. There is only a snapshot in time of where you are on a journey that has no measurable ending point. Any critique (even one's own) should be taken with a grain salt. Everyone brings their own unique life experiences to their commentary. Critique should go through the fi! Ter of "is this actually useful to me?" I also struggle with GAD and major depression. I am often way too hard on myself regarding critique of my own work. In my experience, it is always more valuable to put pencil to paper (or stylus to tablet) and produce as much as possible rather than to try to always be "better". Creativity is NOT measured on a scale that increases in a linear way. That's a myth. Quantity matters far more than quality in actually making progress toward being able to draw what we want. Anything that causes us to hesitate or to stop should be looked at with suspicion.
The way I read it is that the meaning is flipped : it is not “don’t draw if your mental health is not in top order” but rather, “if doing draw a box makes your mental health worse, stop and seek help.”
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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I think you have misunderstood that comment. It is rather an advice to not try to use drawing as self therapy that is meant to replace seeking professional help. "I heard that drawing is good for mental health so I will cure myself with it instead going to the doctor." kind of attitude. The reality is that drawing will not cure you and it can be source of depression on it own. So if you are coming with that attitude then it will be better for you if you don't do it, but if you are aware that doing art is not magical "fix myself button" then you are fine to go.
The way I read it is that the meaning is flipped : it is not “don’t draw if your mental health is not in top order” but rather, “if doing draw a box makes your mental health worse, stop and seek help.”
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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I wouldn't put it off, but take some to recognize what happens when you fail, how it triggers you, etc. Then take a bit more time and define failure for you as it relates to this program. It can be as simple as "Failure for me is stopping completely, but rest days are allowed". You're going to draw a bunch of hot messes as apart of this process and that's more than OK, it's expected and requested. Since you already identified that critique is a trigger for you, just put that piece off the table for now. You can get plenty of good out of the system without subjecting yourself to something that will traumatize you to that level. And goes without saying, but this would be a great thing to bring up with a therapist if you have one and have them help you structure some guardrails to protect your mental health.
The way I read it is that the meaning is flipped : it is not “don’t draw if your mental health is not in top order” but rather, “if doing draw a box makes your mental health worse, stop and seek help.”
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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The way I read it is that the meaning is flipped : it is not “don’t draw if your mental health is not in top order” but rather, “if doing draw a box makes your mental health worse, stop and seek help.”
Honestly the only answer I have got in that whole mess of being depressed and chronically anxious myself is to accept the fact that my attempts in that course will be…bad. Like real bad. Because if you accept that you will fail, that it will not look exactly as you want and that’s okay, it will definitely lessen your anxiety. Also it’s not of a matter of whether or not your should wait to get better before getting into it. It’s more about telling you to take care of yourself first. Because drawing isn’t a skill that you detach yourself from like other subjects. It’s very personal to how you feel and if you find solace in drawing, if it helps you staying afloat, if it’s a urge you can’t rid off…of course it’s gonna hurt more and affect you more and cause huge problems too if you don’t learn to accept the fact that failing at something is okay and allowed.
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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The way I read it is that the meaning is flipped : it is not “don’t draw if your mental health is not in top order” but rather, “if doing draw a box makes your mental health worse, stop and seek help.”
90% of my drawing is doodling. When I capture a moment I can focus, then I usually do. I take solace in that my procrastination from drawing is still to draw
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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Drawing pretty much is my outlet. And would feel naked if I had to give it up or put it aside. Which I would never do. Which By the way I don’t think he’s saying that.
The way I read it is that the meaning is flipped : it is not “don’t draw if your mental health is not in top order” but rather, “if doing draw a box makes your mental health worse, stop and seek help.”
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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The way I read it is that the meaning is flipped : it is not “don’t draw if your mental health is not in top order” but rather, “if doing draw a box makes your mental health worse, stop and seek help.”
Addressing your last point that you may not know if you're "good" or not is valid. Sometimes i sit down because I'm motivated but as I'm drawing, I realize I'm actually in a pretty critical or stressed state and my anxiety just wanted me to do something productive. So I'll switch to cleaning where I won't be so hard on myself. Other days have been poor and stressful and my mind is racing but then I sit down to draw and find it relaxing and fun and simple. Everything melts away into boxes. So you may not always know. You're definition of good will change. Sometimes you won't know until you actually have the paper and pen where your head is actually at and if you're in a place to draw. Some days you'll only have 10 minutes before you're tired and need to stop. Other days you might draw for hours. So hopefully you don't mind being flexible and forgiving with yourself - no matter what kind of day you're having :)
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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Drawing should be fun. Art should be fun. If you’re taking it too seriously, remember that.
The way I read it is that the meaning is flipped : it is not “don’t draw if your mental health is not in top order” but rather, “if doing draw a box makes your mental health worse, stop and seek help.”
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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90% of my drawing is doodling. When I capture a moment I can focus, then I usually do. I take solace in that my procrastination from drawing is still to draw
I think you have misunderstood that comment. It is rather an advice to not try to use drawing as self therapy that is meant to replace seeking professional help. "I heard that drawing is good for mental health so I will cure myself with it instead going to the doctor." kind of attitude. The reality is that drawing will not cure you and it can be source of depression on it own. So if you are coming with that attitude then it will be better for you if you don't do it, but if you are aware that doing art is not magical "fix myself button" then you are fine to go.
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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I think you have misunderstood that comment. It is rather an advice to not try to use drawing as self therapy that is meant to replace seeking professional help. "I heard that drawing is good for mental health so I will cure myself with it instead going to the doctor." kind of attitude. The reality is that drawing will not cure you and it can be source of depression on it own. So if you are coming with that attitude then it will be better for you if you don't do it, but if you are aware that doing art is not magical "fix myself button" then you are fine to go.
Addressing your last point that you may not know if you're "good" or not is valid. Sometimes i sit down because I'm motivated but as I'm drawing, I realize I'm actually in a pretty critical or stressed state and my anxiety just wanted me to do something productive. So I'll switch to cleaning where I won't be so hard on myself. Other days have been poor and stressful and my mind is racing but then I sit down to draw and find it relaxing and fun and simple. Everything melts away into boxes. So you may not always know. You're definition of good will change. Sometimes you won't know until you actually have the paper and pen where your head is actually at and if you're in a place to draw. Some days you'll only have 10 minutes before you're tired and need to stop. Other days you might draw for hours. So hopefully you don't mind being flexible and forgiving with yourself - no matter what kind of day you're having :)
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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Drawing should be fun. Art should be fun. If you’re taking it too seriously, remember that.
I think you have misunderstood that comment. It is rather an advice to not try to use drawing as self therapy that is meant to replace seeking professional help. "I heard that drawing is good for mental health so I will cure myself with it instead going to the doctor." kind of attitude. The reality is that drawing will not cure you and it can be source of depression on it own. So if you are coming with that attitude then it will be better for you if you don't do it, but if you are aware that doing art is not magical "fix myself button" then you are fine to go.
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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Honestly the only answer I have got in that whole mess of being depressed and chronically anxious myself is to accept the fact that my attempts in that course will be…bad. Like real bad. Because if you accept that you will fail, that it will not look exactly as you want and that’s okay, it will definitely lessen your anxiety. Also it’s not of a matter of whether or not your should wait to get better before getting into it. It’s more about telling you to take care of yourself first. Because drawing isn’t a skill that you detach yourself from like other subjects. It’s very personal to how you feel and if you find solace in drawing, if it helps you staying afloat, if it’s a urge you can’t rid off…of course it’s gonna hurt more and affect you more and cause huge problems too if you don’t learn to accept the fact that failing at something is okay and allowed.
I wouldn't put it off, but take some to recognize what happens when you fail, how it triggers you, etc. Then take a bit more time and define failure for you as it relates to this program. It can be as simple as "Failure for me is stopping completely, but rest days are allowed". You're going to draw a bunch of hot messes as apart of this process and that's more than OK, it's expected and requested. Since you already identified that critique is a trigger for you, just put that piece off the table for now. You can get plenty of good out of the system without subjecting yourself to something that will traumatize you to that level. And goes without saying, but this would be a great thing to bring up with a therapist if you have one and have them help you structure some guardrails to protect your mental health.
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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Addressing your last point that you may not know if you're "good" or not is valid. Sometimes i sit down because I'm motivated but as I'm drawing, I realize I'm actually in a pretty critical or stressed state and my anxiety just wanted me to do something productive. So I'll switch to cleaning where I won't be so hard on myself. Other days have been poor and stressful and my mind is racing but then I sit down to draw and find it relaxing and fun and simple. Everything melts away into boxes. So you may not always know. You're definition of good will change. Sometimes you won't know until you actually have the paper and pen where your head is actually at and if you're in a place to draw. Some days you'll only have 10 minutes before you're tired and need to stop. Other days you might draw for hours. So hopefully you don't mind being flexible and forgiving with yourself - no matter what kind of day you're having :)
I wouldn't put it off, but take some to recognize what happens when you fail, how it triggers you, etc. Then take a bit more time and define failure for you as it relates to this program. It can be as simple as "Failure for me is stopping completely, but rest days are allowed". You're going to draw a bunch of hot messes as apart of this process and that's more than OK, it's expected and requested. Since you already identified that critique is a trigger for you, just put that piece off the table for now. You can get plenty of good out of the system without subjecting yourself to something that will traumatize you to that level. And goes without saying, but this would be a great thing to bring up with a therapist if you have one and have them help you structure some guardrails to protect your mental health.
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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Drawing should be fun. Art should be fun. If you’re taking it too seriously, remember that.
I wouldn't put it off, but take some to recognize what happens when you fail, how it triggers you, etc. Then take a bit more time and define failure for you as it relates to this program. It can be as simple as "Failure for me is stopping completely, but rest days are allowed". You're going to draw a bunch of hot messes as apart of this process and that's more than OK, it's expected and requested. Since you already identified that critique is a trigger for you, just put that piece off the table for now. You can get plenty of good out of the system without subjecting yourself to something that will traumatize you to that level. And goes without saying, but this would be a great thing to bring up with a therapist if you have one and have them help you structure some guardrails to protect your mental health.
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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90% of my drawing is doodling. When I capture a moment I can focus, then I usually do. I take solace in that my procrastination from drawing is still to draw
Honestly the only answer I have got in that whole mess of being depressed and chronically anxious myself is to accept the fact that my attempts in that course will be…bad. Like real bad. Because if you accept that you will fail, that it will not look exactly as you want and that’s okay, it will definitely lessen your anxiety. Also it’s not of a matter of whether or not your should wait to get better before getting into it. It’s more about telling you to take care of yourself first. Because drawing isn’t a skill that you detach yourself from like other subjects. It’s very personal to how you feel and if you find solace in drawing, if it helps you staying afloat, if it’s a urge you can’t rid off…of course it’s gonna hurt more and affect you more and cause huge problems too if you don’t learn to accept the fact that failing at something is okay and allowed.
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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Drawing pretty much is my outlet. And would feel naked if I had to give it up or put it aside. Which I would never do. Which By the way I don’t think he’s saying that.
Honestly the only answer I have got in that whole mess of being depressed and chronically anxious myself is to accept the fact that my attempts in that course will be…bad. Like real bad. Because if you accept that you will fail, that it will not look exactly as you want and that’s okay, it will definitely lessen your anxiety. Also it’s not of a matter of whether or not your should wait to get better before getting into it. It’s more about telling you to take care of yourself first. Because drawing isn’t a skill that you detach yourself from like other subjects. It’s very personal to how you feel and if you find solace in drawing, if it helps you staying afloat, if it’s a urge you can’t rid off…of course it’s gonna hurt more and affect you more and cause huge problems too if you don’t learn to accept the fact that failing at something is okay and allowed.
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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Honestly the only answer I have got in that whole mess of being depressed and chronically anxious myself is to accept the fact that my attempts in that course will be…bad. Like real bad. Because if you accept that you will fail, that it will not look exactly as you want and that’s okay, it will definitely lessen your anxiety. Also it’s not of a matter of whether or not your should wait to get better before getting into it. It’s more about telling you to take care of yourself first. Because drawing isn’t a skill that you detach yourself from like other subjects. It’s very personal to how you feel and if you find solace in drawing, if it helps you staying afloat, if it’s a urge you can’t rid off…of course it’s gonna hurt more and affect you more and cause huge problems too if you don’t learn to accept the fact that failing at something is okay and allowed.
Addressing your last point that you may not know if you're "good" or not is valid. Sometimes i sit down because I'm motivated but as I'm drawing, I realize I'm actually in a pretty critical or stressed state and my anxiety just wanted me to do something productive. So I'll switch to cleaning where I won't be so hard on myself. Other days have been poor and stressful and my mind is racing but then I sit down to draw and find it relaxing and fun and simple. Everything melts away into boxes. So you may not always know. You're definition of good will change. Sometimes you won't know until you actually have the paper and pen where your head is actually at and if you're in a place to draw. Some days you'll only have 10 minutes before you're tired and need to stop. Other days you might draw for hours. So hopefully you don't mind being flexible and forgiving with yourself - no matter what kind of day you're having :)
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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Drawing should be fun. Art should be fun. If you’re taking it too seriously, remember that.
Honestly the only answer I have got in that whole mess of being depressed and chronically anxious myself is to accept the fact that my attempts in that course will be…bad. Like real bad. Because if you accept that you will fail, that it will not look exactly as you want and that’s okay, it will definitely lessen your anxiety. Also it’s not of a matter of whether or not your should wait to get better before getting into it. It’s more about telling you to take care of yourself first. Because drawing isn’t a skill that you detach yourself from like other subjects. It’s very personal to how you feel and if you find solace in drawing, if it helps you staying afloat, if it’s a urge you can’t rid off…of course it’s gonna hurt more and affect you more and cause huge problems too if you don’t learn to accept the fact that failing at something is okay and allowed.
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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Addressing your last point that you may not know if you're "good" or not is valid. Sometimes i sit down because I'm motivated but as I'm drawing, I realize I'm actually in a pretty critical or stressed state and my anxiety just wanted me to do something productive. So I'll switch to cleaning where I won't be so hard on myself. Other days have been poor and stressful and my mind is racing but then I sit down to draw and find it relaxing and fun and simple. Everything melts away into boxes. So you may not always know. You're definition of good will change. Sometimes you won't know until you actually have the paper and pen where your head is actually at and if you're in a place to draw. Some days you'll only have 10 minutes before you're tired and need to stop. Other days you might draw for hours. So hopefully you don't mind being flexible and forgiving with yourself - no matter what kind of day you're having :)
Drawing pretty much is my outlet. And would feel naked if I had to give it up or put it aside. Which I would never do. Which By the way I don’t think he’s saying that.
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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Drawing should be fun. Art should be fun. If you’re taking it too seriously, remember that.
Drawing pretty much is my outlet. And would feel naked if I had to give it up or put it aside. Which I would never do. Which By the way I don’t think he’s saying that.
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DrawABox and Mental Health Problems I would like to get your opinion on a situation that may be all too common: trying to learn with mental health issues. First of all, before starting to explain my case, I would like to say I'm doing therapy and I take my mental health very seriously as many people do. So, let me begin. Last year, I rediscovered DrawABox and started my journey rediscover my joy for drawing. I know very well that drawing is not a walk in the park in any stretch of the imagination. There is much work to be done before to make real progress and we may never be satisfied with the result. That is the reality of it and we can do little to make it different. I understand it very well. I have a goal with my journey in the world of art (in special digital art) - I have a passion for character design and illustration, because I love the idea of weave intricate stories using visual media (sometimes to add to textual storytelling). Now to the meat of the situation. I have been diagnosed a long time ago with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (not our run of the mill anxiety), Persistent Clinical Depression, ADHD and Asperger - a whole bunch of problems. I don't seek advice on how to solve these problems. I know them very well and they will not go away any time soon. My goal is to seek advice from anyone that, for example, had to deal with sh\*t like this. When I began to make the lesson 0 of DrawABox I saw this piece of advice: >As the 50% rule relates heavily to mental health, I would be remiss not to take a moment to talk about **depression**. A lot of people out there will really struggle with the idea of doing something only to fail. As I've mentioned already, many of us have been taught that our value as an individual is inextricably tied to our ability to succeed, to the point where forcing yourself to fail (as this course will have you do quite a bit) can actively trigger depressive episodes. It gets that much worse when you consider how many people actively try and use art as therapy — not as part of a larger regimen under the guidance of a professional, but as their singular self-prescribed solution, and unfortunately it can make things worse. > >For those of you in that situation, **I strongly urge you to seek whatever professional support you can**. Therapy with a trained professional isn’t about changing who you are, or attempting to *fix* you. Rather, at its core, it’s about giving you the tools you need to better manage and understand your emotions, so that when you’re faced with a bad drawing, you can understand not just on a logical level, but deep within you that this does not in any way suggest that you yourself are bad. So, don’t be afraid to step away from this course, and to seek out that help. We’ll still be here when you’re better equipped. I know this is not a professional advice from a medical expert and It is written from the kindness their heart to protect people from getting worse. But, I felt pretty bad when read this. In my case, I felt like I would have to put my learning process on ice until getting better until getting better. This may never happen or may be sporadic thing. Time is a terrible foe and it won't stop for anyone. I'm not that young anymore and I know very well the value of time. I cannot wait forever for something that may never really be "good" and measure if I'm good to go is a tricky thing do. Should I drop DrawABox? I'm not exactly too anxious about everything in DrawABox. Much more about critique. I know it is unreasonable, but my mind goes places by itself. What other option do I have to continue (even outside DrawABox) my studies. I would like to say it was a very painful paragraph to read and may have caused, in part, my state of mind to shift to something undesirable from the start. Again. I want to be VERY clear that I'm not in any way blaming this piece of text for my failures or even ignoring the good advice. I'm only saying that there is much more on this subject than "go to therapy and come back later". It is very hard for me to write something for public scrutiny (much like submitting a DrawABox exercise :D), but I'll bite the bullet this time and hope for the best. Thank you for your kindness, especially from people with anxiety as myself.
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Addressing your last point that you may not know if you're "good" or not is valid. Sometimes i sit down because I'm motivated but as I'm drawing, I realize I'm actually in a pretty critical or stressed state and my anxiety just wanted me to do something productive. So I'll switch to cleaning where I won't be so hard on myself. Other days have been poor and stressful and my mind is racing but then I sit down to draw and find it relaxing and fun and simple. Everything melts away into boxes. So you may not always know. You're definition of good will change. Sometimes you won't know until you actually have the paper and pen where your head is actually at and if you're in a place to draw. Some days you'll only have 10 minutes before you're tired and need to stop. Other days you might draw for hours. So hopefully you don't mind being flexible and forgiving with yourself - no matter what kind of day you're having :)
Drawing should be fun. Art should be fun. If you’re taking it too seriously, remember that.
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People who have completed drawabox, what do you think and feel Iwant to know how all of you experienced draw a box in full. I always see people post lesson one and two, but rarely anything further. I want to know if I should get serious about this.
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Really just helped me think more in 3D space, like a sculptor rather than drawer
I finished DaB earlier this year around the summer time. I think it was a great resource. I have been drawing casually for a couple years before starting to take art a bit more seriously this spring and I think DaB was a good resource to start off on to strengthen my fundamentals and bring more structure into my art routine. I think the way the course is structured is very good, but as the course itself claims it's not the end-all be-all resource for learning about perspective and construction but rather a really strong foundation to act as stepping stone in your art journey. I think DaB works best in conjunction with other resources that go a bit more depth into the science of perspective, such as Marshall Vandruff's perspective lessons (personally my #1 recommendation, Marshall is a very good lecturer) and How to Draw by Scott Robertson (basically DaB except more in depth). I do think though that it does have some "flaws", especially for those who are very much beginners or are more casual artists. The sheer workload and "boring" exercises that rarely lead to a presentable drawing may be a bit discouraging for those who are looking to just make pretty pictures off that bat. You really do have to slog through so much material if you're looking to complete the course, and just doing the course isn't enough, you have to actively figure out how to apply what you've learned into personal drawings to see that "level-up" happen. As for absolute beginners, DaB does not teach observational drawing as much. In fact, it disregards things like proportion in places like Lesson 3~6 which is totally understandable in the context of DaB since DaB only wants you to focus on construction and not drawing pretty or accurate drawings from reference, but for people who are very new to drawing, it can be hard to figure out how to correctly observe reference so that you can break it down into basic forms for the sake of construction. I think having at least a little bit of mileage in observing and drawing from reference before starting is incredibly beneficial. Everything said, DaB is great. It teaches you very well if you follow the instructions and think critically about what you're doing. Sorry for the wall of text. Hope my experience/opinion was helpful or at least interesting.
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People who have completed drawabox, what do you think and feel Iwant to know how all of you experienced draw a box in full. I always see people post lesson one and two, but rarely anything further. I want to know if I should get serious about this.
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Well, for me personally, it took me from being an industrial line worker to going through an associate of arts and now looking at design school to finish things off. If you want something more detailed, it definitely was the thing that got me to understanding drawing as a craft and skill, and it's explanation of things in space and as existence and constructions made far more sense than *anything* my art teachers have ever told me on how to 'just break down shapes until you get it' or whatnot.
I finished DaB earlier this year around the summer time. I think it was a great resource. I have been drawing casually for a couple years before starting to take art a bit more seriously this spring and I think DaB was a good resource to start off on to strengthen my fundamentals and bring more structure into my art routine. I think the way the course is structured is very good, but as the course itself claims it's not the end-all be-all resource for learning about perspective and construction but rather a really strong foundation to act as stepping stone in your art journey. I think DaB works best in conjunction with other resources that go a bit more depth into the science of perspective, such as Marshall Vandruff's perspective lessons (personally my #1 recommendation, Marshall is a very good lecturer) and How to Draw by Scott Robertson (basically DaB except more in depth). I do think though that it does have some "flaws", especially for those who are very much beginners or are more casual artists. The sheer workload and "boring" exercises that rarely lead to a presentable drawing may be a bit discouraging for those who are looking to just make pretty pictures off that bat. You really do have to slog through so much material if you're looking to complete the course, and just doing the course isn't enough, you have to actively figure out how to apply what you've learned into personal drawings to see that "level-up" happen. As for absolute beginners, DaB does not teach observational drawing as much. In fact, it disregards things like proportion in places like Lesson 3~6 which is totally understandable in the context of DaB since DaB only wants you to focus on construction and not drawing pretty or accurate drawings from reference, but for people who are very new to drawing, it can be hard to figure out how to correctly observe reference so that you can break it down into basic forms for the sake of construction. I think having at least a little bit of mileage in observing and drawing from reference before starting is incredibly beneficial. Everything said, DaB is great. It teaches you very well if you follow the instructions and think critically about what you're doing. Sorry for the wall of text. Hope my experience/opinion was helpful or at least interesting.
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People who have completed drawabox, what do you think and feel Iwant to know how all of you experienced draw a box in full. I always see people post lesson one and two, but rarely anything further. I want to know if I should get serious about this.
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I finished DaB earlier this year around the summer time. I think it was a great resource. I have been drawing casually for a couple years before starting to take art a bit more seriously this spring and I think DaB was a good resource to start off on to strengthen my fundamentals and bring more structure into my art routine. I think the way the course is structured is very good, but as the course itself claims it's not the end-all be-all resource for learning about perspective and construction but rather a really strong foundation to act as stepping stone in your art journey. I think DaB works best in conjunction with other resources that go a bit more depth into the science of perspective, such as Marshall Vandruff's perspective lessons (personally my #1 recommendation, Marshall is a very good lecturer) and How to Draw by Scott Robertson (basically DaB except more in depth). I do think though that it does have some "flaws", especially for those who are very much beginners or are more casual artists. The sheer workload and "boring" exercises that rarely lead to a presentable drawing may be a bit discouraging for those who are looking to just make pretty pictures off that bat. You really do have to slog through so much material if you're looking to complete the course, and just doing the course isn't enough, you have to actively figure out how to apply what you've learned into personal drawings to see that "level-up" happen. As for absolute beginners, DaB does not teach observational drawing as much. In fact, it disregards things like proportion in places like Lesson 3~6 which is totally understandable in the context of DaB since DaB only wants you to focus on construction and not drawing pretty or accurate drawings from reference, but for people who are very new to drawing, it can be hard to figure out how to correctly observe reference so that you can break it down into basic forms for the sake of construction. I think having at least a little bit of mileage in observing and drawing from reference before starting is incredibly beneficial. Everything said, DaB is great. It teaches you very well if you follow the instructions and think critically about what you're doing. Sorry for the wall of text. Hope my experience/opinion was helpful or at least interesting.
I've posted a few times on this subreddit about my experience with the course. This is the most recent, I also documented my entire journey on my blog, the full review post probably goes the most into depth about what I got out of the journey. This post has pictures of my progress over the years. (Hopefully /u/Uncomfortable won't bop me for posting my blog) In short: Everyone gets something out of Drawabox. Those that get the most out of Drawabox are the ones that really take their time and follow the instructions closely.
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People who have completed drawabox, what do you think and feel Iwant to know how all of you experienced draw a box in full. I always see people post lesson one and two, but rarely anything further. I want to know if I should get serious about this.
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I finished DaB earlier this year around the summer time. I think it was a great resource. I have been drawing casually for a couple years before starting to take art a bit more seriously this spring and I think DaB was a good resource to start off on to strengthen my fundamentals and bring more structure into my art routine. I think the way the course is structured is very good, but as the course itself claims it's not the end-all be-all resource for learning about perspective and construction but rather a really strong foundation to act as stepping stone in your art journey. I think DaB works best in conjunction with other resources that go a bit more depth into the science of perspective, such as Marshall Vandruff's perspective lessons (personally my #1 recommendation, Marshall is a very good lecturer) and How to Draw by Scott Robertson (basically DaB except more in depth). I do think though that it does have some "flaws", especially for those who are very much beginners or are more casual artists. The sheer workload and "boring" exercises that rarely lead to a presentable drawing may be a bit discouraging for those who are looking to just make pretty pictures off that bat. You really do have to slog through so much material if you're looking to complete the course, and just doing the course isn't enough, you have to actively figure out how to apply what you've learned into personal drawings to see that "level-up" happen. As for absolute beginners, DaB does not teach observational drawing as much. In fact, it disregards things like proportion in places like Lesson 3~6 which is totally understandable in the context of DaB since DaB only wants you to focus on construction and not drawing pretty or accurate drawings from reference, but for people who are very new to drawing, it can be hard to figure out how to correctly observe reference so that you can break it down into basic forms for the sake of construction. I think having at least a little bit of mileage in observing and drawing from reference before starting is incredibly beneficial. Everything said, DaB is great. It teaches you very well if you follow the instructions and think critically about what you're doing. Sorry for the wall of text. Hope my experience/opinion was helpful or at least interesting.
You neve complete Drawabox, it’s the box that completes you
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People who have completed drawabox, what do you think and feel Iwant to know how all of you experienced draw a box in full. I always see people post lesson one and two, but rarely anything further. I want to know if I should get serious about this.
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Aspiring concept artist here, If you want to draw anything, you HAVE to go through this course. There is no better/smarter way to understand how to draw than what Drawabox teaches you. Like, there's no alternative to drawing well. Those really cool artist that you see on Instagram, they went through it. After Drawabox, you need to learn - anatomy - gesture - values and shading
You neve complete Drawabox, it’s the box that completes you
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People who have completed drawabox, what do you think and feel Iwant to know how all of you experienced draw a box in full. I always see people post lesson one and two, but rarely anything further. I want to know if I should get serious about this.
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I completed drawing a box 2 yrs ago and it was what gave me the basic understanding of drawing anything on a flat surface and making it look 3d
To tell you the truth, the first two lessons and the 250 boxes challenge already bear the essence of the whole course
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Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtv8vx1
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Get out of your head and just move forward. So you suck a measly 2 weeks after not drawing? Whatever, why you gotta be good all the time? Fuck it just draw some shit and get back on the horse! What’s the worst thing that could happen, you do a lesson poorly? Cool, then try it again. Don’t sweat the first boxes, heck, the first 100 boxes being shit. That’s why it’s 250! You’ll get better no worries. You got this!
Do one or 2 exercises to warm up and then start the challenge. 2 weeks isn't enough time to lose all your progress.
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Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtv8vx1
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Get out of your head and just move forward. So you suck a measly 2 weeks after not drawing? Whatever, why you gotta be good all the time? Fuck it just draw some shit and get back on the horse! What’s the worst thing that could happen, you do a lesson poorly? Cool, then try it again. Don’t sweat the first boxes, heck, the first 100 boxes being shit. That’s why it’s 250! You’ll get better no worries. You got this!
I think you should ask yourself, why are you scared that you'll make bad drawings. The whole point of it is to learn, you don't need to make good drawings yet. Warm up with some of the previous exercises, then jump back to where you were. If something isn't working in your boxes, then go back to fix the issue.
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Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtv8vx1
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Get out of your head and just move forward. So you suck a measly 2 weeks after not drawing? Whatever, why you gotta be good all the time? Fuck it just draw some shit and get back on the horse! What’s the worst thing that could happen, you do a lesson poorly? Cool, then try it again. Don’t sweat the first boxes, heck, the first 100 boxes being shit. That’s why it’s 250! You’ll get better no worries. You got this!
Please read what everyone said in other comments. Mine is just a little tip to complement with everyone, but shouldn't be the most important thing you get from this post: When I stop drawing for some time, my "right now" skill fades a little. My first drawing after some weeks withou drawing will be worse than what I expected. But it's just the first (or the first 2). Like every other skill, your muscle memory will be still there, and will be with you forever, but you may need a bit of tuning to get there, and that tuning is simple and it's fast to do. That's why we warm up for like 5 minutes every session
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Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtv8vx1
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Get out of your head and just move forward. So you suck a measly 2 weeks after not drawing? Whatever, why you gotta be good all the time? Fuck it just draw some shit and get back on the horse! What’s the worst thing that could happen, you do a lesson poorly? Cool, then try it again. Don’t sweat the first boxes, heck, the first 100 boxes being shit. That’s why it’s 250! You’ll get better no worries. You got this!
I’m in the same boat, mainly my fault for not continuing. Saw someone recommend re-watching the videos to catch up if you’ve already completed the exercise. Then make sure to apply then on the lesson you have not started.
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Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtv8vx1
gtup0ef
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Get out of your head and just move forward. So you suck a measly 2 weeks after not drawing? Whatever, why you gotta be good all the time? Fuck it just draw some shit and get back on the horse! What’s the worst thing that could happen, you do a lesson poorly? Cool, then try it again. Don’t sweat the first boxes, heck, the first 100 boxes being shit. That’s why it’s 250! You’ll get better no worries. You got this!
I would personally try to mix it up. Draw fun stuff often enough to get you excited and hyped to draw, but every now and then take some time for a lesson or two, depending on how long it may take. In addition, because it is hard to grind 2 weeks, try to break it further, maybe into a month. Set certain time periods just to work on the lessons, maybe once a week for 30 min, as an example, but remember not to grind so hard you exhaust yourself. At that point, learning to draw gets incredibly frustrating. I hope I helped, and goodluck with your future endeavors!
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mmzgys
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Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtupy9a
gtur62k
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I think you should ask yourself, why are you scared that you'll make bad drawings. The whole point of it is to learn, you don't need to make good drawings yet. Warm up with some of the previous exercises, then jump back to where you were. If something isn't working in your boxes, then go back to fix the issue.
Do one or 2 exercises to warm up and then start the challenge. 2 weeks isn't enough time to lose all your progress.
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mmzgys
artfundamentals_train
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Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtuqzeb
gtur62k
1,617,914,362
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5
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Please read what everyone said in other comments. Mine is just a little tip to complement with everyone, but shouldn't be the most important thing you get from this post: When I stop drawing for some time, my "right now" skill fades a little. My first drawing after some weeks withou drawing will be worse than what I expected. But it's just the first (or the first 2). Like every other skill, your muscle memory will be still there, and will be with you forever, but you may need a bit of tuning to get there, and that tuning is simple and it's fast to do. That's why we warm up for like 5 minutes every session
Do one or 2 exercises to warm up and then start the challenge. 2 weeks isn't enough time to lose all your progress.
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mmzgys
artfundamentals_train
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Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtur62k
gtujsmc
1,617,914,443
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Do one or 2 exercises to warm up and then start the challenge. 2 weeks isn't enough time to lose all your progress.
I’m in the same boat, mainly my fault for not continuing. Saw someone recommend re-watching the videos to catch up if you’ve already completed the exercise. Then make sure to apply then on the lesson you have not started.
1
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mmzgys
artfundamentals_train
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Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtur62k
gtup0ef
1,617,914,443
1,617,913,512
11
3
Do one or 2 exercises to warm up and then start the challenge. 2 weeks isn't enough time to lose all your progress.
I would personally try to mix it up. Draw fun stuff often enough to get you excited and hyped to draw, but every now and then take some time for a lesson or two, depending on how long it may take. In addition, because it is hard to grind 2 weeks, try to break it further, maybe into a month. Set certain time periods just to work on the lessons, maybe once a week for 30 min, as an example, but remember not to grind so hard you exhaust yourself. At that point, learning to draw gets incredibly frustrating. I hope I helped, and goodluck with your future endeavors!
1
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mmzgys
artfundamentals_train
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Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtxe2jq
gtupy9a
1,617,974,226
1,617,913,917
9
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It sounds like your making drawing waaaay too stressful. That stress will then make you procrastinate, cuz if it's stressful you're body wont wanna do it. Relax a little and enjoy the process. You'll be rusty after 2 weeks but as long as you know the principles you can keep practicing
I think you should ask yourself, why are you scared that you'll make bad drawings. The whole point of it is to learn, you don't need to make good drawings yet. Warm up with some of the previous exercises, then jump back to where you were. If something isn't working in your boxes, then go back to fix the issue.
1
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mmzgys
artfundamentals_train
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Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtuqzeb
gtxe2jq
1,617,914,362
1,617,974,226
5
9
Please read what everyone said in other comments. Mine is just a little tip to complement with everyone, but shouldn't be the most important thing you get from this post: When I stop drawing for some time, my "right now" skill fades a little. My first drawing after some weeks withou drawing will be worse than what I expected. But it's just the first (or the first 2). Like every other skill, your muscle memory will be still there, and will be with you forever, but you may need a bit of tuning to get there, and that tuning is simple and it's fast to do. That's why we warm up for like 5 minutes every session
It sounds like your making drawing waaaay too stressful. That stress will then make you procrastinate, cuz if it's stressful you're body wont wanna do it. Relax a little and enjoy the process. You'll be rusty after 2 weeks but as long as you know the principles you can keep practicing
0
59,864
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mmzgys
artfundamentals_train
0.94
Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtujsmc
gtxe2jq
1,617,911,259
1,617,974,226
3
9
I’m in the same boat, mainly my fault for not continuing. Saw someone recommend re-watching the videos to catch up if you’ve already completed the exercise. Then make sure to apply then on the lesson you have not started.
It sounds like your making drawing waaaay too stressful. That stress will then make you procrastinate, cuz if it's stressful you're body wont wanna do it. Relax a little and enjoy the process. You'll be rusty after 2 weeks but as long as you know the principles you can keep practicing
0
62,967
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mmzgys
artfundamentals_train
0.94
Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtxe2jq
gtup0ef
1,617,974,226
1,617,913,512
9
3
It sounds like your making drawing waaaay too stressful. That stress will then make you procrastinate, cuz if it's stressful you're body wont wanna do it. Relax a little and enjoy the process. You'll be rusty after 2 weeks but as long as you know the principles you can keep practicing
I would personally try to mix it up. Draw fun stuff often enough to get you excited and hyped to draw, but every now and then take some time for a lesson or two, depending on how long it may take. In addition, because it is hard to grind 2 weeks, try to break it further, maybe into a month. Set certain time periods just to work on the lessons, maybe once a week for 30 min, as an example, but remember not to grind so hard you exhaust yourself. At that point, learning to draw gets incredibly frustrating. I hope I helped, and goodluck with your future endeavors!
1
60,714
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mmzgys
artfundamentals_train
0.94
Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtupy9a
gtxtaba
1,617,913,917
1,617,981,339
6
7
I think you should ask yourself, why are you scared that you'll make bad drawings. The whole point of it is to learn, you don't need to make good drawings yet. Warm up with some of the previous exercises, then jump back to where you were. If something isn't working in your boxes, then go back to fix the issue.
You should always spend at least some time drawing for fun, if only to remind yourself what and why you want to improve. I wouldn't worry too much about a 2 week break though. It took me around a year to do drawabox when I did it and I found it really beneficial (though that might have inlaced the figure drawing section that isn't available anymore).
0
67,422
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mmzgys
artfundamentals_train
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Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtupy9a
gtujsmc
1,617,913,917
1,617,911,259
6
3
I think you should ask yourself, why are you scared that you'll make bad drawings. The whole point of it is to learn, you don't need to make good drawings yet. Warm up with some of the previous exercises, then jump back to where you were. If something isn't working in your boxes, then go back to fix the issue.
I’m in the same boat, mainly my fault for not continuing. Saw someone recommend re-watching the videos to catch up if you’ve already completed the exercise. Then make sure to apply then on the lesson you have not started.
1
2,658
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mmzgys
artfundamentals_train
0.94
Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtupy9a
gtup0ef
1,617,913,917
1,617,913,512
6
3
I think you should ask yourself, why are you scared that you'll make bad drawings. The whole point of it is to learn, you don't need to make good drawings yet. Warm up with some of the previous exercises, then jump back to where you were. If something isn't working in your boxes, then go back to fix the issue.
I would personally try to mix it up. Draw fun stuff often enough to get you excited and hyped to draw, but every now and then take some time for a lesson or two, depending on how long it may take. In addition, because it is hard to grind 2 weeks, try to break it further, maybe into a month. Set certain time periods just to work on the lessons, maybe once a week for 30 min, as an example, but remember not to grind so hard you exhaust yourself. At that point, learning to draw gets incredibly frustrating. I hope I helped, and goodluck with your future endeavors!
1
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mmzgys
artfundamentals_train
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Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtuqzeb
gtxtaba
1,617,914,362
1,617,981,339
5
7
Please read what everyone said in other comments. Mine is just a little tip to complement with everyone, but shouldn't be the most important thing you get from this post: When I stop drawing for some time, my "right now" skill fades a little. My first drawing after some weeks withou drawing will be worse than what I expected. But it's just the first (or the first 2). Like every other skill, your muscle memory will be still there, and will be with you forever, but you may need a bit of tuning to get there, and that tuning is simple and it's fast to do. That's why we warm up for like 5 minutes every session
You should always spend at least some time drawing for fun, if only to remind yourself what and why you want to improve. I wouldn't worry too much about a 2 week break though. It took me around a year to do drawabox when I did it and I found it really beneficial (though that might have inlaced the figure drawing section that isn't available anymore).
0
66,977
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mmzgys
artfundamentals_train
0.94
Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtujsmc
gtuqzeb
1,617,911,259
1,617,914,362
3
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I’m in the same boat, mainly my fault for not continuing. Saw someone recommend re-watching the videos to catch up if you’ve already completed the exercise. Then make sure to apply then on the lesson you have not started.
Please read what everyone said in other comments. Mine is just a little tip to complement with everyone, but shouldn't be the most important thing you get from this post: When I stop drawing for some time, my "right now" skill fades a little. My first drawing after some weeks withou drawing will be worse than what I expected. But it's just the first (or the first 2). Like every other skill, your muscle memory will be still there, and will be with you forever, but you may need a bit of tuning to get there, and that tuning is simple and it's fast to do. That's why we warm up for like 5 minutes every session
0
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mmzgys
artfundamentals_train
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Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtuqzeb
gtup0ef
1,617,914,362
1,617,913,512
5
3
Please read what everyone said in other comments. Mine is just a little tip to complement with everyone, but shouldn't be the most important thing you get from this post: When I stop drawing for some time, my "right now" skill fades a little. My first drawing after some weeks withou drawing will be worse than what I expected. But it's just the first (or the first 2). Like every other skill, your muscle memory will be still there, and will be with you forever, but you may need a bit of tuning to get there, and that tuning is simple and it's fast to do. That's why we warm up for like 5 minutes every session
I would personally try to mix it up. Draw fun stuff often enough to get you excited and hyped to draw, but every now and then take some time for a lesson or two, depending on how long it may take. In addition, because it is hard to grind 2 weeks, try to break it further, maybe into a month. Set certain time periods just to work on the lessons, maybe once a week for 30 min, as an example, but remember not to grind so hard you exhaust yourself. At that point, learning to draw gets incredibly frustrating. I hope I helped, and goodluck with your future endeavors!
1
850
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mmzgys
artfundamentals_train
0.94
Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtxtaba
gtujsmc
1,617,981,339
1,617,911,259
7
3
You should always spend at least some time drawing for fun, if only to remind yourself what and why you want to improve. I wouldn't worry too much about a 2 week break though. It took me around a year to do drawabox when I did it and I found it really beneficial (though that might have inlaced the figure drawing section that isn't available anymore).
I’m in the same boat, mainly my fault for not continuing. Saw someone recommend re-watching the videos to catch up if you’ve already completed the exercise. Then make sure to apply then on the lesson you have not started.
1
70,080
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mmzgys
artfundamentals_train
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Haven't continued the drawabox course and it's been almost 2 weeks... I've completed lesson 1 since 1.5 - 2 wks ago and I'm kinda scared to continue since my skills might E gone to shit. I didn't have the time to work on my skills in those two weeks. Should I start getting into it by drawing fun stuff first or by trying to go straight into the 250 box challenge?
gtup0ef
gtxtaba
1,617,913,512
1,617,981,339
3
7
I would personally try to mix it up. Draw fun stuff often enough to get you excited and hyped to draw, but every now and then take some time for a lesson or two, depending on how long it may take. In addition, because it is hard to grind 2 weeks, try to break it further, maybe into a month. Set certain time periods just to work on the lessons, maybe once a week for 30 min, as an example, but remember not to grind so hard you exhaust yourself. At that point, learning to draw gets incredibly frustrating. I hope I helped, and goodluck with your future endeavors!
You should always spend at least some time drawing for fun, if only to remind yourself what and why you want to improve. I wouldn't worry too much about a 2 week break though. It took me around a year to do drawabox when I did it and I found it really beneficial (though that might have inlaced the figure drawing section that isn't available anymore).
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m4frvf
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Ive spent two months doing all the excercises on drawabox and ctrlpaint, now what? Im a bit demotivated because I worked really hard for months and I feel like I did nothing, I dont have any real piece finished and I feel overwhelmed every time I try to start drawing something that is not squares, circles and lines. I know many people recommend that after finishing drawabox you start with anatomy books to begin to understand the human body but I feel that if I start again with "thick lessons" I will get burned out too fast. I know I still lack a lot of fundamentals and I will keep working on them but I would like to start doing a real project with digital art. I love fantasy scenarios with characters and I thought that a fantasy landscape would be a good practice. What do you recommend me to do now to get motivated again?
gqutg06
gqultoo
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You finished all the lessons in two months? Thats very quick. I assume you did not follow the 50% rule though. Also theres homework where you need to draw animals and vehicles and such isn't there? You managed to do that and you still feel like you learned nothing? Did you post your homework for critique?
Go draw something YOU want to draw. Objects around your house are great warm ups, find pictures that make you think “I want to draw that” then draw it. Take a look at your local landscape and recreate it or use it as a base for a fantasy landscape.
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m4frvf
artfundamentals_train
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Ive spent two months doing all the excercises on drawabox and ctrlpaint, now what? Im a bit demotivated because I worked really hard for months and I feel like I did nothing, I dont have any real piece finished and I feel overwhelmed every time I try to start drawing something that is not squares, circles and lines. I know many people recommend that after finishing drawabox you start with anatomy books to begin to understand the human body but I feel that if I start again with "thick lessons" I will get burned out too fast. I know I still lack a lot of fundamentals and I will keep working on them but I would like to start doing a real project with digital art. I love fantasy scenarios with characters and I thought that a fantasy landscape would be a good practice. What do you recommend me to do now to get motivated again?
gqukzyj
gqutg06
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i know drawabox advocates just drawing 50 percent of the time specifically not learning drawing just drawing If you like fantasy stuff start drawing fantasy characters. I have drawn a couple things from the Golden Axe games, i am really not very good but like jsut drawing Find a landscape or characters and create your own versions. Don't get to caught up in perfection. you can design different armour or weapons. You could even write backstories for a character and then try and draw them using the backstory. Or just straight up draw a dwarf, draw a mage, draw a knight. Pick something and do it, don't spend too much time choosing just do it
You finished all the lessons in two months? Thats very quick. I assume you did not follow the 50% rule though. Also theres homework where you need to draw animals and vehicles and such isn't there? You managed to do that and you still feel like you learned nothing? Did you post your homework for critique?
0
4,927
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m4frvf
artfundamentals_train
0.93
Ive spent two months doing all the excercises on drawabox and ctrlpaint, now what? Im a bit demotivated because I worked really hard for months and I feel like I did nothing, I dont have any real piece finished and I feel overwhelmed every time I try to start drawing something that is not squares, circles and lines. I know many people recommend that after finishing drawabox you start with anatomy books to begin to understand the human body but I feel that if I start again with "thick lessons" I will get burned out too fast. I know I still lack a lot of fundamentals and I will keep working on them but I would like to start doing a real project with digital art. I love fantasy scenarios with characters and I thought that a fantasy landscape would be a good practice. What do you recommend me to do now to get motivated again?
gqutg06
gqum11m
1,615,684,840
1,615,680,512
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You finished all the lessons in two months? Thats very quick. I assume you did not follow the 50% rule though. Also theres homework where you need to draw animals and vehicles and such isn't there? You managed to do that and you still feel like you learned nothing? Did you post your homework for critique?
Don't start with anatomy.. that would kill my motivation as well. There is a feng zhu video on what subject matter is great for beginners. Anything organic and more forgiving like rocks is good for starters. Then you can move to trees, architecture, insects.. and so on. Humans are incredibly difficult. There is a lot of information online and you'll have to find out what works for you. It should still be fun however.
1
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m4frvf
artfundamentals_train
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Ive spent two months doing all the excercises on drawabox and ctrlpaint, now what? Im a bit demotivated because I worked really hard for months and I feel like I did nothing, I dont have any real piece finished and I feel overwhelmed every time I try to start drawing something that is not squares, circles and lines. I know many people recommend that after finishing drawabox you start with anatomy books to begin to understand the human body but I feel that if I start again with "thick lessons" I will get burned out too fast. I know I still lack a lot of fundamentals and I will keep working on them but I would like to start doing a real project with digital art. I love fantasy scenarios with characters and I thought that a fantasy landscape would be a good practice. What do you recommend me to do now to get motivated again?
gquujhp
gquxhta
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it's a helluva lot better to make art that you want to make, than to grind through lessons just because you think you \*should\*. the latter is a road to burnout. stay motivated by drawing things that motivate you, it's honestly that simple. just gotta be humble about your own expectations tho.
Dude what? Have you been doing nothing but the drawabox exercises? It took me a month just to get one of the challenges done.
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