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nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0e9bfz | h0fbb5b | 1,622,689,665 | 1,622,718,088 | 13 | 18 | the 50% rule doesent mean you have to be learning to draw or studying anatomy or something that intense, its just there to stop you from only doing draw a box and burning out. It doesnt really matter what you do with the other 50% so long as its not draw a box, you could draw from real life, abstract things from your dreams, or even doodling weenies in the school bathroom. | > ... I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, ... Spend an hour on pinterest at some point, make yourself a little library of interesting reference images. Whenever you don't know what to do, pick a thing from there. No scrambling necessary. > ... if I should be using references at all ... You absolutely should! If you have the idea that using reference is somehow "cheating"... discard it. Professional artists use reference all the time, often meticulously setting up photo shoots with the right light, the right props and costumes, etc etc. > ... sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions ... Nothing wrong with that! > ... I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. Nope! This is not practice time. You're accumulating pen miles, which helps for sure, but other than that, this is not practice. You can also thing of it as developing the skill of tolerating bad drawings - see, you *are* developing a skill! As an artist, you will make many drawings that you don't like at all, that's just how it goes regardless of skill level. You can either learn to tolerate this, or you can spend a lot of time feeling miserable. | 0 | 28,423 | 1.384615 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0f0f63 | h0fbb5b | 1,622,708,717 | 1,622,718,088 | 8 | 18 | Remember, you 50% does not have to be fully rendered, immaculate pieces of art. Spend it practicing blocking out, shaped, either 2D or 3D forms of the subject(s), ESPECIALLY if you find a reference you really like. Fill a page with intersecting solids and then try different ways of shading/hatching, try a 3, 5 and 9 value tone map, or nice, even shading. Fill a page with different brick and stone work, or tile roofs. Fill it with eyelashes. Do you want to work on drawing cars more? Draw wing mirrors, draw wheels, practice rendering shapes with reflective surfaces. Fill a page with light clusters. Draw a car with a soft-top at various stages of opening/closing. Want to Draw more animals? Fill a page with fur, scales, feathers. Look at different animal eyes. Draw a chicken, put a saddle on it. The pursuit of "perfect" picture where we are, just starting, will only result in disappointment, and worst, the possible establishment of bad habits. Keep it fun, keep it focused, and accept that you still need to grow and learn before you can get to the level you want to be at. Use the sketching time to experiment with what you have practiced. Use the line and ellipse drawing skill to block-out a castle or church. check your lines for convergence using the stuff you learned from the perspective work you have done. You can leave it there OR if you want you can go back to it later and add detail, texture, windows, crenelations, colour. Yes! Use the 50% rule to fill a sketch book, but don't work to the standard that everything you put in is going to be a beautiful, finished piece. Fill it with applications of the skills you are picking up. Use it as a journal of learning and growth, watch your skills grow as you learn and apply new stuff through the course. Love the journey <3 | > ... I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, ... Spend an hour on pinterest at some point, make yourself a little library of interesting reference images. Whenever you don't know what to do, pick a thing from there. No scrambling necessary. > ... if I should be using references at all ... You absolutely should! If you have the idea that using reference is somehow "cheating"... discard it. Professional artists use reference all the time, often meticulously setting up photo shoots with the right light, the right props and costumes, etc etc. > ... sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions ... Nothing wrong with that! > ... I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. Nope! This is not practice time. You're accumulating pen miles, which helps for sure, but other than that, this is not practice. You can also thing of it as developing the skill of tolerating bad drawings - see, you *are* developing a skill! As an artist, you will make many drawings that you don't like at all, that's just how it goes regardless of skill level. You can either learn to tolerate this, or you can spend a lot of time feeling miserable. | 0 | 9,371 | 2.25 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0eg5b7 | h0fbb5b | 1,622,693,547 | 1,622,718,088 | 7 | 18 | I can relate a lot to agonizing over my drawings being perfect! It just bugs me so much to see things not as I’m imagining it. What’s helped me is more fun drawing exercises. It’s basically getting forms on the page as quickly as possible. Sometimes you can do the typical artist thing and find a cafe or restaurant or park and just start drawing people you see. It’s a good way of making sure you don’t agonize- you don’t have the time since these people are constantly moving. I don’t like going out much, so I switched mine up a bit. I looked up Prompt generators and set up a timer for 2, 5, or 10 minutes. Once the timer’s up, I have to move on. That’s usually my warm up, and they can be quite fun. I like having the structure of what to draw picked out along with the time I’m allowed to spend on it, but I still have some freedom to be creative. It’s helped me draw quicker and learn when to ignore that little perfectionist voice muttering in my ear. Maybe something like that can help? | > ... I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, ... Spend an hour on pinterest at some point, make yourself a little library of interesting reference images. Whenever you don't know what to do, pick a thing from there. No scrambling necessary. > ... if I should be using references at all ... You absolutely should! If you have the idea that using reference is somehow "cheating"... discard it. Professional artists use reference all the time, often meticulously setting up photo shoots with the right light, the right props and costumes, etc etc. > ... sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions ... Nothing wrong with that! > ... I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. Nope! This is not practice time. You're accumulating pen miles, which helps for sure, but other than that, this is not practice. You can also thing of it as developing the skill of tolerating bad drawings - see, you *are* developing a skill! As an artist, you will make many drawings that you don't like at all, that's just how it goes regardless of skill level. You can either learn to tolerate this, or you can spend a lot of time feeling miserable. | 0 | 24,541 | 2.571429 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0fbb5b | h0f0m30 | 1,622,718,088 | 1,622,708,894 | 18 | 7 | > ... I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, ... Spend an hour on pinterest at some point, make yourself a little library of interesting reference images. Whenever you don't know what to do, pick a thing from there. No scrambling necessary. > ... if I should be using references at all ... You absolutely should! If you have the idea that using reference is somehow "cheating"... discard it. Professional artists use reference all the time, often meticulously setting up photo shoots with the right light, the right props and costumes, etc etc. > ... sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions ... Nothing wrong with that! > ... I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. Nope! This is not practice time. You're accumulating pen miles, which helps for sure, but other than that, this is not practice. You can also thing of it as developing the skill of tolerating bad drawings - see, you *are* developing a skill! As an artist, you will make many drawings that you don't like at all, that's just how it goes regardless of skill level. You can either learn to tolerate this, or you can spend a lot of time feeling miserable. | The way I've been approaching it is to do the other 50% simply as drawing for fun. And I've been hitting the same issues you have. The problem, I think, is that you can get too goal oriented. I know I do. I want to learn something, pick a goal and head for it relentlessly. The difficulty that creates is that you teach yourself to only draw when you are trying to achieve something. Or, to put it another way, you teach yourself to only draw when a teacher is telling you what to draw. I've slowly come to realise that a big part of the fun in art is being self-reflective. In going "hey, it turns out that I want to draw a person today," and doing that. And if you like cartoons (which I do), figuring out that you simply enjoy turning your own holiday snaps into cartoons. Ultimately, I think the 50% rule has an important psychological effect that really helps: it teaches you that not all art has to be directed, and, at least in my case, shows me that I need to also be self-directed and do things on a whim sometimes. I think the threat of burnout is real if you're always doing stuff a teacher tells you to do and you always grind through it. But I also think, even if you enjoy the classroom stuff, that it's good for the soul to do at least as much non-classroom activity at the same time. Because ultimately being an artist will mean a mixture of 'things people tell/pay me to do,' and 'my own projects.' I don't think you want to wait till some unspecified time in the future when you're 'good at art' before learning what it's like to do your own projects. Or, even worse, find out you never learn it at all. | 1 | 9,194 | 2.571429 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0fbb5b | h0f4nnv | 1,622,718,088 | 1,622,712,583 | 18 | 7 | > ... I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, ... Spend an hour on pinterest at some point, make yourself a little library of interesting reference images. Whenever you don't know what to do, pick a thing from there. No scrambling necessary. > ... if I should be using references at all ... You absolutely should! If you have the idea that using reference is somehow "cheating"... discard it. Professional artists use reference all the time, often meticulously setting up photo shoots with the right light, the right props and costumes, etc etc. > ... sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions ... Nothing wrong with that! > ... I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. Nope! This is not practice time. You're accumulating pen miles, which helps for sure, but other than that, this is not practice. You can also thing of it as developing the skill of tolerating bad drawings - see, you *are* developing a skill! As an artist, you will make many drawings that you don't like at all, that's just how it goes regardless of skill level. You can either learn to tolerate this, or you can spend a lot of time feeling miserable. | You shouldn't draw anything serious in the free draw session, just get what's in your head on paper. I usually use an art prompt generator for inspiration, but it shouldn't be stressful, it's just for fun | 1 | 5,505 | 2.571429 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0fbb5b | h0e6b7g | 1,622,718,088 | 1,622,688,074 | 18 | 5 | > ... I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, ... Spend an hour on pinterest at some point, make yourself a little library of interesting reference images. Whenever you don't know what to do, pick a thing from there. No scrambling necessary. > ... if I should be using references at all ... You absolutely should! If you have the idea that using reference is somehow "cheating"... discard it. Professional artists use reference all the time, often meticulously setting up photo shoots with the right light, the right props and costumes, etc etc. > ... sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions ... Nothing wrong with that! > ... I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. Nope! This is not practice time. You're accumulating pen miles, which helps for sure, but other than that, this is not practice. You can also thing of it as developing the skill of tolerating bad drawings - see, you *are* developing a skill! As an artist, you will make many drawings that you don't like at all, that's just how it goes regardless of skill level. You can either learn to tolerate this, or you can spend a lot of time feeling miserable. | I very much relate to this. Have you ever seen the documentary movie, Jiro Dreams of Sushi? Whenever I'm having these kinds of issues I remember this movie. He talks about an apprentice spending 2 years just tenderising octopus before they're allowed to make the eggs.... His philosophy revolves around repetition. Personally I either - Pick from a random list after googling "things to draw" - repeatedly draw specific cartoon characters, refining my execution of them so its more and more consistent. I find when I *want* to do a drawabox exercise but *should* do something else, this fills the same void. It's precise, repetitive, each drawing is complete in just a few strokes and I can give myself immediate feedback on how well I executed. These are childishly simplistic with the added bonus my 4 year old likes to color them in. - I draw the room in front of me, usually from an odd angle like lying on the floor and looking up to the corner of the wall / ceiling. This is applying the principles of 3d drawing and I do plotted perspective from lesson one. I focus on getting right the lines of windows, doors, shelves etc rather than the textures, colors etc. ALL of these are done within a single session. I do not refine, I do not try and make them a grand output. They are an exercise and DOING is more important than done, if that makes sense. The movie helps a little bit with this attitude, it makes me trust in tye process rather than obsess on the results. | 1 | 30,014 | 3.6 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0fbb5b | h0f0hg4 | 1,622,718,088 | 1,622,708,776 | 18 | 5 | > ... I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, ... Spend an hour on pinterest at some point, make yourself a little library of interesting reference images. Whenever you don't know what to do, pick a thing from there. No scrambling necessary. > ... if I should be using references at all ... You absolutely should! If you have the idea that using reference is somehow "cheating"... discard it. Professional artists use reference all the time, often meticulously setting up photo shoots with the right light, the right props and costumes, etc etc. > ... sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions ... Nothing wrong with that! > ... I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. Nope! This is not practice time. You're accumulating pen miles, which helps for sure, but other than that, this is not practice. You can also thing of it as developing the skill of tolerating bad drawings - see, you *are* developing a skill! As an artist, you will make many drawings that you don't like at all, that's just how it goes regardless of skill level. You can either learn to tolerate this, or you can spend a lot of time feeling miserable. | You don't have to force creativity, you don't have to force anything, just fill up that visual library with stress free studies https://youtu.be/WLqWX7onVmU And master studies https://youtu.be/CLojgjOAjDA Inspiration comes when it comes, the main thing is you are drawing something you enjoy, one way or another. studies are absolutely fine, until I started doing loads of master studies of other imaginative artists I couldnt even draw from the imagination at all. Shape language, composition, technique, there is a lot to learn so if you're anxious just do some quick sketches capturing the essence, its up to you what you want to learn and want to draw, if nothing comes from the imagination don't worry those burning creative ideas will kick in at some point, but you can't force creativity. | 1 | 9,312 | 3.6 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0fbb5b | h0fa22q | 1,622,718,088 | 1,622,717,152 | 18 | 4 | > ... I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, ... Spend an hour on pinterest at some point, make yourself a little library of interesting reference images. Whenever you don't know what to do, pick a thing from there. No scrambling necessary. > ... if I should be using references at all ... You absolutely should! If you have the idea that using reference is somehow "cheating"... discard it. Professional artists use reference all the time, often meticulously setting up photo shoots with the right light, the right props and costumes, etc etc. > ... sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions ... Nothing wrong with that! > ... I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. Nope! This is not practice time. You're accumulating pen miles, which helps for sure, but other than that, this is not practice. You can also thing of it as developing the skill of tolerating bad drawings - see, you *are* developing a skill! As an artist, you will make many drawings that you don't like at all, that's just how it goes regardless of skill level. You can either learn to tolerate this, or you can spend a lot of time feeling miserable. | Do as much drawing from life as possible. Unless you're preternaturally gifted in seeing the three dimensions of an object in your mind, do it like serious art students do and draw from life for the first few years of your drawing education. | 1 | 936 | 4.5 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0e8j52 | h0fbb5b | 1,622,689,237 | 1,622,718,088 | 3 | 18 | Hmm maybe I'm approaching it wrong but the way I've been treating the 50% rule is to just draw for fun. I similarly only have a set amount of time to draw every day but I make sure that I'm done with whatever I was doing within that session. I just set a timer and when it's up I go do something else. I know this isn't "truly experimental" but I've found gesture/figure drawings to be really fun so I do those as part of the 50% as well. Croquis cafe has really nice ~20 min sessions that I do a few times a week. I think part of the goal of the 50% rule is to make sure you don't burn out, so if you're having fun it shouldn't really matter what you do. | > ... I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, ... Spend an hour on pinterest at some point, make yourself a little library of interesting reference images. Whenever you don't know what to do, pick a thing from there. No scrambling necessary. > ... if I should be using references at all ... You absolutely should! If you have the idea that using reference is somehow "cheating"... discard it. Professional artists use reference all the time, often meticulously setting up photo shoots with the right light, the right props and costumes, etc etc. > ... sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions ... Nothing wrong with that! > ... I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. Nope! This is not practice time. You're accumulating pen miles, which helps for sure, but other than that, this is not practice. You can also thing of it as developing the skill of tolerating bad drawings - see, you *are* developing a skill! As an artist, you will make many drawings that you don't like at all, that's just how it goes regardless of skill level. You can either learn to tolerate this, or you can spend a lot of time feeling miserable. | 0 | 28,851 | 6 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0e9bfz | h0e6b7g | 1,622,689,665 | 1,622,688,074 | 13 | 5 | the 50% rule doesent mean you have to be learning to draw or studying anatomy or something that intense, its just there to stop you from only doing draw a box and burning out. It doesnt really matter what you do with the other 50% so long as its not draw a box, you could draw from real life, abstract things from your dreams, or even doodling weenies in the school bathroom. | I very much relate to this. Have you ever seen the documentary movie, Jiro Dreams of Sushi? Whenever I'm having these kinds of issues I remember this movie. He talks about an apprentice spending 2 years just tenderising octopus before they're allowed to make the eggs.... His philosophy revolves around repetition. Personally I either - Pick from a random list after googling "things to draw" - repeatedly draw specific cartoon characters, refining my execution of them so its more and more consistent. I find when I *want* to do a drawabox exercise but *should* do something else, this fills the same void. It's precise, repetitive, each drawing is complete in just a few strokes and I can give myself immediate feedback on how well I executed. These are childishly simplistic with the added bonus my 4 year old likes to color them in. - I draw the room in front of me, usually from an odd angle like lying on the floor and looking up to the corner of the wall / ceiling. This is applying the principles of 3d drawing and I do plotted perspective from lesson one. I focus on getting right the lines of windows, doors, shelves etc rather than the textures, colors etc. ALL of these are done within a single session. I do not refine, I do not try and make them a grand output. They are an exercise and DOING is more important than done, if that makes sense. The movie helps a little bit with this attitude, it makes me trust in tye process rather than obsess on the results. | 1 | 1,591 | 2.6 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0e9bfz | h0e8j52 | 1,622,689,665 | 1,622,689,237 | 13 | 3 | the 50% rule doesent mean you have to be learning to draw or studying anatomy or something that intense, its just there to stop you from only doing draw a box and burning out. It doesnt really matter what you do with the other 50% so long as its not draw a box, you could draw from real life, abstract things from your dreams, or even doodling weenies in the school bathroom. | Hmm maybe I'm approaching it wrong but the way I've been treating the 50% rule is to just draw for fun. I similarly only have a set amount of time to draw every day but I make sure that I'm done with whatever I was doing within that session. I just set a timer and when it's up I go do something else. I know this isn't "truly experimental" but I've found gesture/figure drawings to be really fun so I do those as part of the 50% as well. Croquis cafe has really nice ~20 min sessions that I do a few times a week. I think part of the goal of the 50% rule is to make sure you don't burn out, so if you're having fun it shouldn't really matter what you do. | 1 | 428 | 4.333333 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0fv5ve | h0f0f63 | 1,622,728,891 | 1,622,708,717 | 9 | 8 | Draw a single, simple item; a pen or pencil, the light switch, a cup, a book, your cell phone, a pill bottle, the remote control, your keys. It doesn't matter if that simple cell phone rendering is accurate or not. You did it ... that is what is important. If you want to lay it aside to compare for later, fine. But tossing a finished modest rendering can be liberating; the learning and focus was the whole point. | Remember, you 50% does not have to be fully rendered, immaculate pieces of art. Spend it practicing blocking out, shaped, either 2D or 3D forms of the subject(s), ESPECIALLY if you find a reference you really like. Fill a page with intersecting solids and then try different ways of shading/hatching, try a 3, 5 and 9 value tone map, or nice, even shading. Fill a page with different brick and stone work, or tile roofs. Fill it with eyelashes. Do you want to work on drawing cars more? Draw wing mirrors, draw wheels, practice rendering shapes with reflective surfaces. Fill a page with light clusters. Draw a car with a soft-top at various stages of opening/closing. Want to Draw more animals? Fill a page with fur, scales, feathers. Look at different animal eyes. Draw a chicken, put a saddle on it. The pursuit of "perfect" picture where we are, just starting, will only result in disappointment, and worst, the possible establishment of bad habits. Keep it fun, keep it focused, and accept that you still need to grow and learn before you can get to the level you want to be at. Use the sketching time to experiment with what you have practiced. Use the line and ellipse drawing skill to block-out a castle or church. check your lines for convergence using the stuff you learned from the perspective work you have done. You can leave it there OR if you want you can go back to it later and add detail, texture, windows, crenelations, colour. Yes! Use the 50% rule to fill a sketch book, but don't work to the standard that everything you put in is going to be a beautiful, finished piece. Fill it with applications of the skills you are picking up. Use it as a journal of learning and growth, watch your skills grow as you learn and apply new stuff through the course. Love the journey <3 | 1 | 20,174 | 1.125 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0fv5ve | h0eg5b7 | 1,622,728,891 | 1,622,693,547 | 9 | 7 | Draw a single, simple item; a pen or pencil, the light switch, a cup, a book, your cell phone, a pill bottle, the remote control, your keys. It doesn't matter if that simple cell phone rendering is accurate or not. You did it ... that is what is important. If you want to lay it aside to compare for later, fine. But tossing a finished modest rendering can be liberating; the learning and focus was the whole point. | I can relate a lot to agonizing over my drawings being perfect! It just bugs me so much to see things not as I’m imagining it. What’s helped me is more fun drawing exercises. It’s basically getting forms on the page as quickly as possible. Sometimes you can do the typical artist thing and find a cafe or restaurant or park and just start drawing people you see. It’s a good way of making sure you don’t agonize- you don’t have the time since these people are constantly moving. I don’t like going out much, so I switched mine up a bit. I looked up Prompt generators and set up a timer for 2, 5, or 10 minutes. Once the timer’s up, I have to move on. That’s usually my warm up, and they can be quite fun. I like having the structure of what to draw picked out along with the time I’m allowed to spend on it, but I still have some freedom to be creative. It’s helped me draw quicker and learn when to ignore that little perfectionist voice muttering in my ear. Maybe something like that can help? | 1 | 35,344 | 1.285714 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0f0m30 | h0fv5ve | 1,622,708,894 | 1,622,728,891 | 7 | 9 | The way I've been approaching it is to do the other 50% simply as drawing for fun. And I've been hitting the same issues you have. The problem, I think, is that you can get too goal oriented. I know I do. I want to learn something, pick a goal and head for it relentlessly. The difficulty that creates is that you teach yourself to only draw when you are trying to achieve something. Or, to put it another way, you teach yourself to only draw when a teacher is telling you what to draw. I've slowly come to realise that a big part of the fun in art is being self-reflective. In going "hey, it turns out that I want to draw a person today," and doing that. And if you like cartoons (which I do), figuring out that you simply enjoy turning your own holiday snaps into cartoons. Ultimately, I think the 50% rule has an important psychological effect that really helps: it teaches you that not all art has to be directed, and, at least in my case, shows me that I need to also be self-directed and do things on a whim sometimes. I think the threat of burnout is real if you're always doing stuff a teacher tells you to do and you always grind through it. But I also think, even if you enjoy the classroom stuff, that it's good for the soul to do at least as much non-classroom activity at the same time. Because ultimately being an artist will mean a mixture of 'things people tell/pay me to do,' and 'my own projects.' I don't think you want to wait till some unspecified time in the future when you're 'good at art' before learning what it's like to do your own projects. Or, even worse, find out you never learn it at all. | Draw a single, simple item; a pen or pencil, the light switch, a cup, a book, your cell phone, a pill bottle, the remote control, your keys. It doesn't matter if that simple cell phone rendering is accurate or not. You did it ... that is what is important. If you want to lay it aside to compare for later, fine. But tossing a finished modest rendering can be liberating; the learning and focus was the whole point. | 0 | 19,997 | 1.285714 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0f4nnv | h0fv5ve | 1,622,712,583 | 1,622,728,891 | 7 | 9 | You shouldn't draw anything serious in the free draw session, just get what's in your head on paper. I usually use an art prompt generator for inspiration, but it shouldn't be stressful, it's just for fun | Draw a single, simple item; a pen or pencil, the light switch, a cup, a book, your cell phone, a pill bottle, the remote control, your keys. It doesn't matter if that simple cell phone rendering is accurate or not. You did it ... that is what is important. If you want to lay it aside to compare for later, fine. But tossing a finished modest rendering can be liberating; the learning and focus was the whole point. | 0 | 16,308 | 1.285714 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0fv5ve | h0fsn54 | 1,622,728,891 | 1,622,727,843 | 9 | 6 | Draw a single, simple item; a pen or pencil, the light switch, a cup, a book, your cell phone, a pill bottle, the remote control, your keys. It doesn't matter if that simple cell phone rendering is accurate or not. You did it ... that is what is important. If you want to lay it aside to compare for later, fine. But tossing a finished modest rendering can be liberating; the learning and focus was the whole point. | If you think of learning to draw like learning a language (both take years of focused study to gain anything close to “fluency”), draw a box is like conjugating verbs and the “other 50%” is like talking to a native speaker. In order to learn a language, you need both and as frustrating as it is to know you’re making a ton of mistakes when you talk, you have to jump in and try to make yourself understood. If you wait until you’re better at the language before you try to speak, you’re only holding yourself back. Mistakes are opportunities to learn and if you draw something that you think sucks, no one ever needs to see it and you still learned something from the experience. | 1 | 1,048 | 1.5 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0fv5ve | h0e6b7g | 1,622,728,891 | 1,622,688,074 | 9 | 5 | Draw a single, simple item; a pen or pencil, the light switch, a cup, a book, your cell phone, a pill bottle, the remote control, your keys. It doesn't matter if that simple cell phone rendering is accurate or not. You did it ... that is what is important. If you want to lay it aside to compare for later, fine. But tossing a finished modest rendering can be liberating; the learning and focus was the whole point. | I very much relate to this. Have you ever seen the documentary movie, Jiro Dreams of Sushi? Whenever I'm having these kinds of issues I remember this movie. He talks about an apprentice spending 2 years just tenderising octopus before they're allowed to make the eggs.... His philosophy revolves around repetition. Personally I either - Pick from a random list after googling "things to draw" - repeatedly draw specific cartoon characters, refining my execution of them so its more and more consistent. I find when I *want* to do a drawabox exercise but *should* do something else, this fills the same void. It's precise, repetitive, each drawing is complete in just a few strokes and I can give myself immediate feedback on how well I executed. These are childishly simplistic with the added bonus my 4 year old likes to color them in. - I draw the room in front of me, usually from an odd angle like lying on the floor and looking up to the corner of the wall / ceiling. This is applying the principles of 3d drawing and I do plotted perspective from lesson one. I focus on getting right the lines of windows, doors, shelves etc rather than the textures, colors etc. ALL of these are done within a single session. I do not refine, I do not try and make them a grand output. They are an exercise and DOING is more important than done, if that makes sense. The movie helps a little bit with this attitude, it makes me trust in tye process rather than obsess on the results. | 1 | 40,817 | 1.8 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0f0hg4 | h0fv5ve | 1,622,708,776 | 1,622,728,891 | 5 | 9 | You don't have to force creativity, you don't have to force anything, just fill up that visual library with stress free studies https://youtu.be/WLqWX7onVmU And master studies https://youtu.be/CLojgjOAjDA Inspiration comes when it comes, the main thing is you are drawing something you enjoy, one way or another. studies are absolutely fine, until I started doing loads of master studies of other imaginative artists I couldnt even draw from the imagination at all. Shape language, composition, technique, there is a lot to learn so if you're anxious just do some quick sketches capturing the essence, its up to you what you want to learn and want to draw, if nothing comes from the imagination don't worry those burning creative ideas will kick in at some point, but you can't force creativity. | Draw a single, simple item; a pen or pencil, the light switch, a cup, a book, your cell phone, a pill bottle, the remote control, your keys. It doesn't matter if that simple cell phone rendering is accurate or not. You did it ... that is what is important. If you want to lay it aside to compare for later, fine. But tossing a finished modest rendering can be liberating; the learning and focus was the whole point. | 0 | 20,115 | 1.8 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0fv5ve | h0fa22q | 1,622,728,891 | 1,622,717,152 | 9 | 4 | Draw a single, simple item; a pen or pencil, the light switch, a cup, a book, your cell phone, a pill bottle, the remote control, your keys. It doesn't matter if that simple cell phone rendering is accurate or not. You did it ... that is what is important. If you want to lay it aside to compare for later, fine. But tossing a finished modest rendering can be liberating; the learning and focus was the whole point. | Do as much drawing from life as possible. Unless you're preternaturally gifted in seeing the three dimensions of an object in your mind, do it like serious art students do and draw from life for the first few years of your drawing education. | 1 | 11,739 | 2.25 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0e8j52 | h0fv5ve | 1,622,689,237 | 1,622,728,891 | 3 | 9 | Hmm maybe I'm approaching it wrong but the way I've been treating the 50% rule is to just draw for fun. I similarly only have a set amount of time to draw every day but I make sure that I'm done with whatever I was doing within that session. I just set a timer and when it's up I go do something else. I know this isn't "truly experimental" but I've found gesture/figure drawings to be really fun so I do those as part of the 50% as well. Croquis cafe has really nice ~20 min sessions that I do a few times a week. I think part of the goal of the 50% rule is to make sure you don't burn out, so if you're having fun it shouldn't really matter what you do. | Draw a single, simple item; a pen or pencil, the light switch, a cup, a book, your cell phone, a pill bottle, the remote control, your keys. It doesn't matter if that simple cell phone rendering is accurate or not. You did it ... that is what is important. If you want to lay it aside to compare for later, fine. But tossing a finished modest rendering can be liberating; the learning and focus was the whole point. | 0 | 39,654 | 3 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0f0f63 | h0eg5b7 | 1,622,708,717 | 1,622,693,547 | 8 | 7 | Remember, you 50% does not have to be fully rendered, immaculate pieces of art. Spend it practicing blocking out, shaped, either 2D or 3D forms of the subject(s), ESPECIALLY if you find a reference you really like. Fill a page with intersecting solids and then try different ways of shading/hatching, try a 3, 5 and 9 value tone map, or nice, even shading. Fill a page with different brick and stone work, or tile roofs. Fill it with eyelashes. Do you want to work on drawing cars more? Draw wing mirrors, draw wheels, practice rendering shapes with reflective surfaces. Fill a page with light clusters. Draw a car with a soft-top at various stages of opening/closing. Want to Draw more animals? Fill a page with fur, scales, feathers. Look at different animal eyes. Draw a chicken, put a saddle on it. The pursuit of "perfect" picture where we are, just starting, will only result in disappointment, and worst, the possible establishment of bad habits. Keep it fun, keep it focused, and accept that you still need to grow and learn before you can get to the level you want to be at. Use the sketching time to experiment with what you have practiced. Use the line and ellipse drawing skill to block-out a castle or church. check your lines for convergence using the stuff you learned from the perspective work you have done. You can leave it there OR if you want you can go back to it later and add detail, texture, windows, crenelations, colour. Yes! Use the 50% rule to fill a sketch book, but don't work to the standard that everything you put in is going to be a beautiful, finished piece. Fill it with applications of the skills you are picking up. Use it as a journal of learning and growth, watch your skills grow as you learn and apply new stuff through the course. Love the journey <3 | I can relate a lot to agonizing over my drawings being perfect! It just bugs me so much to see things not as I’m imagining it. What’s helped me is more fun drawing exercises. It’s basically getting forms on the page as quickly as possible. Sometimes you can do the typical artist thing and find a cafe or restaurant or park and just start drawing people you see. It’s a good way of making sure you don’t agonize- you don’t have the time since these people are constantly moving. I don’t like going out much, so I switched mine up a bit. I looked up Prompt generators and set up a timer for 2, 5, or 10 minutes. Once the timer’s up, I have to move on. That’s usually my warm up, and they can be quite fun. I like having the structure of what to draw picked out along with the time I’m allowed to spend on it, but I still have some freedom to be creative. It’s helped me draw quicker and learn when to ignore that little perfectionist voice muttering in my ear. Maybe something like that can help? | 1 | 15,170 | 1.142857 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0f0f63 | h0e6b7g | 1,622,708,717 | 1,622,688,074 | 8 | 5 | Remember, you 50% does not have to be fully rendered, immaculate pieces of art. Spend it practicing blocking out, shaped, either 2D or 3D forms of the subject(s), ESPECIALLY if you find a reference you really like. Fill a page with intersecting solids and then try different ways of shading/hatching, try a 3, 5 and 9 value tone map, or nice, even shading. Fill a page with different brick and stone work, or tile roofs. Fill it with eyelashes. Do you want to work on drawing cars more? Draw wing mirrors, draw wheels, practice rendering shapes with reflective surfaces. Fill a page with light clusters. Draw a car with a soft-top at various stages of opening/closing. Want to Draw more animals? Fill a page with fur, scales, feathers. Look at different animal eyes. Draw a chicken, put a saddle on it. The pursuit of "perfect" picture where we are, just starting, will only result in disappointment, and worst, the possible establishment of bad habits. Keep it fun, keep it focused, and accept that you still need to grow and learn before you can get to the level you want to be at. Use the sketching time to experiment with what you have practiced. Use the line and ellipse drawing skill to block-out a castle or church. check your lines for convergence using the stuff you learned from the perspective work you have done. You can leave it there OR if you want you can go back to it later and add detail, texture, windows, crenelations, colour. Yes! Use the 50% rule to fill a sketch book, but don't work to the standard that everything you put in is going to be a beautiful, finished piece. Fill it with applications of the skills you are picking up. Use it as a journal of learning and growth, watch your skills grow as you learn and apply new stuff through the course. Love the journey <3 | I very much relate to this. Have you ever seen the documentary movie, Jiro Dreams of Sushi? Whenever I'm having these kinds of issues I remember this movie. He talks about an apprentice spending 2 years just tenderising octopus before they're allowed to make the eggs.... His philosophy revolves around repetition. Personally I either - Pick from a random list after googling "things to draw" - repeatedly draw specific cartoon characters, refining my execution of them so its more and more consistent. I find when I *want* to do a drawabox exercise but *should* do something else, this fills the same void. It's precise, repetitive, each drawing is complete in just a few strokes and I can give myself immediate feedback on how well I executed. These are childishly simplistic with the added bonus my 4 year old likes to color them in. - I draw the room in front of me, usually from an odd angle like lying on the floor and looking up to the corner of the wall / ceiling. This is applying the principles of 3d drawing and I do plotted perspective from lesson one. I focus on getting right the lines of windows, doors, shelves etc rather than the textures, colors etc. ALL of these are done within a single session. I do not refine, I do not try and make them a grand output. They are an exercise and DOING is more important than done, if that makes sense. The movie helps a little bit with this attitude, it makes me trust in tye process rather than obsess on the results. | 1 | 20,643 | 1.6 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0f0f63 | h0e8j52 | 1,622,708,717 | 1,622,689,237 | 8 | 3 | Remember, you 50% does not have to be fully rendered, immaculate pieces of art. Spend it practicing blocking out, shaped, either 2D or 3D forms of the subject(s), ESPECIALLY if you find a reference you really like. Fill a page with intersecting solids and then try different ways of shading/hatching, try a 3, 5 and 9 value tone map, or nice, even shading. Fill a page with different brick and stone work, or tile roofs. Fill it with eyelashes. Do you want to work on drawing cars more? Draw wing mirrors, draw wheels, practice rendering shapes with reflective surfaces. Fill a page with light clusters. Draw a car with a soft-top at various stages of opening/closing. Want to Draw more animals? Fill a page with fur, scales, feathers. Look at different animal eyes. Draw a chicken, put a saddle on it. The pursuit of "perfect" picture where we are, just starting, will only result in disappointment, and worst, the possible establishment of bad habits. Keep it fun, keep it focused, and accept that you still need to grow and learn before you can get to the level you want to be at. Use the sketching time to experiment with what you have practiced. Use the line and ellipse drawing skill to block-out a castle or church. check your lines for convergence using the stuff you learned from the perspective work you have done. You can leave it there OR if you want you can go back to it later and add detail, texture, windows, crenelations, colour. Yes! Use the 50% rule to fill a sketch book, but don't work to the standard that everything you put in is going to be a beautiful, finished piece. Fill it with applications of the skills you are picking up. Use it as a journal of learning and growth, watch your skills grow as you learn and apply new stuff through the course. Love the journey <3 | Hmm maybe I'm approaching it wrong but the way I've been treating the 50% rule is to just draw for fun. I similarly only have a set amount of time to draw every day but I make sure that I'm done with whatever I was doing within that session. I just set a timer and when it's up I go do something else. I know this isn't "truly experimental" but I've found gesture/figure drawings to be really fun so I do those as part of the 50% as well. Croquis cafe has really nice ~20 min sessions that I do a few times a week. I think part of the goal of the 50% rule is to make sure you don't burn out, so if you're having fun it shouldn't really matter what you do. | 1 | 19,480 | 2.666667 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0e6b7g | h0eg5b7 | 1,622,688,074 | 1,622,693,547 | 5 | 7 | I very much relate to this. Have you ever seen the documentary movie, Jiro Dreams of Sushi? Whenever I'm having these kinds of issues I remember this movie. He talks about an apprentice spending 2 years just tenderising octopus before they're allowed to make the eggs.... His philosophy revolves around repetition. Personally I either - Pick from a random list after googling "things to draw" - repeatedly draw specific cartoon characters, refining my execution of them so its more and more consistent. I find when I *want* to do a drawabox exercise but *should* do something else, this fills the same void. It's precise, repetitive, each drawing is complete in just a few strokes and I can give myself immediate feedback on how well I executed. These are childishly simplistic with the added bonus my 4 year old likes to color them in. - I draw the room in front of me, usually from an odd angle like lying on the floor and looking up to the corner of the wall / ceiling. This is applying the principles of 3d drawing and I do plotted perspective from lesson one. I focus on getting right the lines of windows, doors, shelves etc rather than the textures, colors etc. ALL of these are done within a single session. I do not refine, I do not try and make them a grand output. They are an exercise and DOING is more important than done, if that makes sense. The movie helps a little bit with this attitude, it makes me trust in tye process rather than obsess on the results. | I can relate a lot to agonizing over my drawings being perfect! It just bugs me so much to see things not as I’m imagining it. What’s helped me is more fun drawing exercises. It’s basically getting forms on the page as quickly as possible. Sometimes you can do the typical artist thing and find a cafe or restaurant or park and just start drawing people you see. It’s a good way of making sure you don’t agonize- you don’t have the time since these people are constantly moving. I don’t like going out much, so I switched mine up a bit. I looked up Prompt generators and set up a timer for 2, 5, or 10 minutes. Once the timer’s up, I have to move on. That’s usually my warm up, and they can be quite fun. I like having the structure of what to draw picked out along with the time I’m allowed to spend on it, but I still have some freedom to be creative. It’s helped me draw quicker and learn when to ignore that little perfectionist voice muttering in my ear. Maybe something like that can help? | 0 | 5,473 | 1.4 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0e8j52 | h0eg5b7 | 1,622,689,237 | 1,622,693,547 | 3 | 7 | Hmm maybe I'm approaching it wrong but the way I've been treating the 50% rule is to just draw for fun. I similarly only have a set amount of time to draw every day but I make sure that I'm done with whatever I was doing within that session. I just set a timer and when it's up I go do something else. I know this isn't "truly experimental" but I've found gesture/figure drawings to be really fun so I do those as part of the 50% as well. Croquis cafe has really nice ~20 min sessions that I do a few times a week. I think part of the goal of the 50% rule is to make sure you don't burn out, so if you're having fun it shouldn't really matter what you do. | I can relate a lot to agonizing over my drawings being perfect! It just bugs me so much to see things not as I’m imagining it. What’s helped me is more fun drawing exercises. It’s basically getting forms on the page as quickly as possible. Sometimes you can do the typical artist thing and find a cafe or restaurant or park and just start drawing people you see. It’s a good way of making sure you don’t agonize- you don’t have the time since these people are constantly moving. I don’t like going out much, so I switched mine up a bit. I looked up Prompt generators and set up a timer for 2, 5, or 10 minutes. Once the timer’s up, I have to move on. That’s usually my warm up, and they can be quite fun. I like having the structure of what to draw picked out along with the time I’m allowed to spend on it, but I still have some freedom to be creative. It’s helped me draw quicker and learn when to ignore that little perfectionist voice muttering in my ear. Maybe something like that can help? | 0 | 4,310 | 2.333333 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0e6b7g | h0f0m30 | 1,622,688,074 | 1,622,708,894 | 5 | 7 | I very much relate to this. Have you ever seen the documentary movie, Jiro Dreams of Sushi? Whenever I'm having these kinds of issues I remember this movie. He talks about an apprentice spending 2 years just tenderising octopus before they're allowed to make the eggs.... His philosophy revolves around repetition. Personally I either - Pick from a random list after googling "things to draw" - repeatedly draw specific cartoon characters, refining my execution of them so its more and more consistent. I find when I *want* to do a drawabox exercise but *should* do something else, this fills the same void. It's precise, repetitive, each drawing is complete in just a few strokes and I can give myself immediate feedback on how well I executed. These are childishly simplistic with the added bonus my 4 year old likes to color them in. - I draw the room in front of me, usually from an odd angle like lying on the floor and looking up to the corner of the wall / ceiling. This is applying the principles of 3d drawing and I do plotted perspective from lesson one. I focus on getting right the lines of windows, doors, shelves etc rather than the textures, colors etc. ALL of these are done within a single session. I do not refine, I do not try and make them a grand output. They are an exercise and DOING is more important than done, if that makes sense. The movie helps a little bit with this attitude, it makes me trust in tye process rather than obsess on the results. | The way I've been approaching it is to do the other 50% simply as drawing for fun. And I've been hitting the same issues you have. The problem, I think, is that you can get too goal oriented. I know I do. I want to learn something, pick a goal and head for it relentlessly. The difficulty that creates is that you teach yourself to only draw when you are trying to achieve something. Or, to put it another way, you teach yourself to only draw when a teacher is telling you what to draw. I've slowly come to realise that a big part of the fun in art is being self-reflective. In going "hey, it turns out that I want to draw a person today," and doing that. And if you like cartoons (which I do), figuring out that you simply enjoy turning your own holiday snaps into cartoons. Ultimately, I think the 50% rule has an important psychological effect that really helps: it teaches you that not all art has to be directed, and, at least in my case, shows me that I need to also be self-directed and do things on a whim sometimes. I think the threat of burnout is real if you're always doing stuff a teacher tells you to do and you always grind through it. But I also think, even if you enjoy the classroom stuff, that it's good for the soul to do at least as much non-classroom activity at the same time. Because ultimately being an artist will mean a mixture of 'things people tell/pay me to do,' and 'my own projects.' I don't think you want to wait till some unspecified time in the future when you're 'good at art' before learning what it's like to do your own projects. Or, even worse, find out you never learn it at all. | 0 | 20,820 | 1.4 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0f0m30 | h0f0hg4 | 1,622,708,894 | 1,622,708,776 | 7 | 5 | The way I've been approaching it is to do the other 50% simply as drawing for fun. And I've been hitting the same issues you have. The problem, I think, is that you can get too goal oriented. I know I do. I want to learn something, pick a goal and head for it relentlessly. The difficulty that creates is that you teach yourself to only draw when you are trying to achieve something. Or, to put it another way, you teach yourself to only draw when a teacher is telling you what to draw. I've slowly come to realise that a big part of the fun in art is being self-reflective. In going "hey, it turns out that I want to draw a person today," and doing that. And if you like cartoons (which I do), figuring out that you simply enjoy turning your own holiday snaps into cartoons. Ultimately, I think the 50% rule has an important psychological effect that really helps: it teaches you that not all art has to be directed, and, at least in my case, shows me that I need to also be self-directed and do things on a whim sometimes. I think the threat of burnout is real if you're always doing stuff a teacher tells you to do and you always grind through it. But I also think, even if you enjoy the classroom stuff, that it's good for the soul to do at least as much non-classroom activity at the same time. Because ultimately being an artist will mean a mixture of 'things people tell/pay me to do,' and 'my own projects.' I don't think you want to wait till some unspecified time in the future when you're 'good at art' before learning what it's like to do your own projects. Or, even worse, find out you never learn it at all. | You don't have to force creativity, you don't have to force anything, just fill up that visual library with stress free studies https://youtu.be/WLqWX7onVmU And master studies https://youtu.be/CLojgjOAjDA Inspiration comes when it comes, the main thing is you are drawing something you enjoy, one way or another. studies are absolutely fine, until I started doing loads of master studies of other imaginative artists I couldnt even draw from the imagination at all. Shape language, composition, technique, there is a lot to learn so if you're anxious just do some quick sketches capturing the essence, its up to you what you want to learn and want to draw, if nothing comes from the imagination don't worry those burning creative ideas will kick in at some point, but you can't force creativity. | 1 | 118 | 1.4 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0f0m30 | h0e8j52 | 1,622,708,894 | 1,622,689,237 | 7 | 3 | The way I've been approaching it is to do the other 50% simply as drawing for fun. And I've been hitting the same issues you have. The problem, I think, is that you can get too goal oriented. I know I do. I want to learn something, pick a goal and head for it relentlessly. The difficulty that creates is that you teach yourself to only draw when you are trying to achieve something. Or, to put it another way, you teach yourself to only draw when a teacher is telling you what to draw. I've slowly come to realise that a big part of the fun in art is being self-reflective. In going "hey, it turns out that I want to draw a person today," and doing that. And if you like cartoons (which I do), figuring out that you simply enjoy turning your own holiday snaps into cartoons. Ultimately, I think the 50% rule has an important psychological effect that really helps: it teaches you that not all art has to be directed, and, at least in my case, shows me that I need to also be self-directed and do things on a whim sometimes. I think the threat of burnout is real if you're always doing stuff a teacher tells you to do and you always grind through it. But I also think, even if you enjoy the classroom stuff, that it's good for the soul to do at least as much non-classroom activity at the same time. Because ultimately being an artist will mean a mixture of 'things people tell/pay me to do,' and 'my own projects.' I don't think you want to wait till some unspecified time in the future when you're 'good at art' before learning what it's like to do your own projects. Or, even worse, find out you never learn it at all. | Hmm maybe I'm approaching it wrong but the way I've been treating the 50% rule is to just draw for fun. I similarly only have a set amount of time to draw every day but I make sure that I'm done with whatever I was doing within that session. I just set a timer and when it's up I go do something else. I know this isn't "truly experimental" but I've found gesture/figure drawings to be really fun so I do those as part of the 50% as well. Croquis cafe has really nice ~20 min sessions that I do a few times a week. I think part of the goal of the 50% rule is to make sure you don't burn out, so if you're having fun it shouldn't really matter what you do. | 1 | 19,657 | 2.333333 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0e6b7g | h0f4nnv | 1,622,688,074 | 1,622,712,583 | 5 | 7 | I very much relate to this. Have you ever seen the documentary movie, Jiro Dreams of Sushi? Whenever I'm having these kinds of issues I remember this movie. He talks about an apprentice spending 2 years just tenderising octopus before they're allowed to make the eggs.... His philosophy revolves around repetition. Personally I either - Pick from a random list after googling "things to draw" - repeatedly draw specific cartoon characters, refining my execution of them so its more and more consistent. I find when I *want* to do a drawabox exercise but *should* do something else, this fills the same void. It's precise, repetitive, each drawing is complete in just a few strokes and I can give myself immediate feedback on how well I executed. These are childishly simplistic with the added bonus my 4 year old likes to color them in. - I draw the room in front of me, usually from an odd angle like lying on the floor and looking up to the corner of the wall / ceiling. This is applying the principles of 3d drawing and I do plotted perspective from lesson one. I focus on getting right the lines of windows, doors, shelves etc rather than the textures, colors etc. ALL of these are done within a single session. I do not refine, I do not try and make them a grand output. They are an exercise and DOING is more important than done, if that makes sense. The movie helps a little bit with this attitude, it makes me trust in tye process rather than obsess on the results. | You shouldn't draw anything serious in the free draw session, just get what's in your head on paper. I usually use an art prompt generator for inspiration, but it shouldn't be stressful, it's just for fun | 0 | 24,509 | 1.4 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0f4nnv | h0f0hg4 | 1,622,712,583 | 1,622,708,776 | 7 | 5 | You shouldn't draw anything serious in the free draw session, just get what's in your head on paper. I usually use an art prompt generator for inspiration, but it shouldn't be stressful, it's just for fun | You don't have to force creativity, you don't have to force anything, just fill up that visual library with stress free studies https://youtu.be/WLqWX7onVmU And master studies https://youtu.be/CLojgjOAjDA Inspiration comes when it comes, the main thing is you are drawing something you enjoy, one way or another. studies are absolutely fine, until I started doing loads of master studies of other imaginative artists I couldnt even draw from the imagination at all. Shape language, composition, technique, there is a lot to learn so if you're anxious just do some quick sketches capturing the essence, its up to you what you want to learn and want to draw, if nothing comes from the imagination don't worry those burning creative ideas will kick in at some point, but you can't force creativity. | 1 | 3,807 | 1.4 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0f4nnv | h0e8j52 | 1,622,712,583 | 1,622,689,237 | 7 | 3 | You shouldn't draw anything serious in the free draw session, just get what's in your head on paper. I usually use an art prompt generator for inspiration, but it shouldn't be stressful, it's just for fun | Hmm maybe I'm approaching it wrong but the way I've been treating the 50% rule is to just draw for fun. I similarly only have a set amount of time to draw every day but I make sure that I'm done with whatever I was doing within that session. I just set a timer and when it's up I go do something else. I know this isn't "truly experimental" but I've found gesture/figure drawings to be really fun so I do those as part of the 50% as well. Croquis cafe has really nice ~20 min sessions that I do a few times a week. I think part of the goal of the 50% rule is to make sure you don't burn out, so if you're having fun it shouldn't really matter what you do. | 1 | 23,346 | 2.333333 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0e6b7g | h0fsn54 | 1,622,688,074 | 1,622,727,843 | 5 | 6 | I very much relate to this. Have you ever seen the documentary movie, Jiro Dreams of Sushi? Whenever I'm having these kinds of issues I remember this movie. He talks about an apprentice spending 2 years just tenderising octopus before they're allowed to make the eggs.... His philosophy revolves around repetition. Personally I either - Pick from a random list after googling "things to draw" - repeatedly draw specific cartoon characters, refining my execution of them so its more and more consistent. I find when I *want* to do a drawabox exercise but *should* do something else, this fills the same void. It's precise, repetitive, each drawing is complete in just a few strokes and I can give myself immediate feedback on how well I executed. These are childishly simplistic with the added bonus my 4 year old likes to color them in. - I draw the room in front of me, usually from an odd angle like lying on the floor and looking up to the corner of the wall / ceiling. This is applying the principles of 3d drawing and I do plotted perspective from lesson one. I focus on getting right the lines of windows, doors, shelves etc rather than the textures, colors etc. ALL of these are done within a single session. I do not refine, I do not try and make them a grand output. They are an exercise and DOING is more important than done, if that makes sense. The movie helps a little bit with this attitude, it makes me trust in tye process rather than obsess on the results. | If you think of learning to draw like learning a language (both take years of focused study to gain anything close to “fluency”), draw a box is like conjugating verbs and the “other 50%” is like talking to a native speaker. In order to learn a language, you need both and as frustrating as it is to know you’re making a ton of mistakes when you talk, you have to jump in and try to make yourself understood. If you wait until you’re better at the language before you try to speak, you’re only holding yourself back. Mistakes are opportunities to learn and if you draw something that you think sucks, no one ever needs to see it and you still learned something from the experience. | 0 | 39,769 | 1.2 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0f0hg4 | h0fsn54 | 1,622,708,776 | 1,622,727,843 | 5 | 6 | You don't have to force creativity, you don't have to force anything, just fill up that visual library with stress free studies https://youtu.be/WLqWX7onVmU And master studies https://youtu.be/CLojgjOAjDA Inspiration comes when it comes, the main thing is you are drawing something you enjoy, one way or another. studies are absolutely fine, until I started doing loads of master studies of other imaginative artists I couldnt even draw from the imagination at all. Shape language, composition, technique, there is a lot to learn so if you're anxious just do some quick sketches capturing the essence, its up to you what you want to learn and want to draw, if nothing comes from the imagination don't worry those burning creative ideas will kick in at some point, but you can't force creativity. | If you think of learning to draw like learning a language (both take years of focused study to gain anything close to “fluency”), draw a box is like conjugating verbs and the “other 50%” is like talking to a native speaker. In order to learn a language, you need both and as frustrating as it is to know you’re making a ton of mistakes when you talk, you have to jump in and try to make yourself understood. If you wait until you’re better at the language before you try to speak, you’re only holding yourself back. Mistakes are opportunities to learn and if you draw something that you think sucks, no one ever needs to see it and you still learned something from the experience. | 0 | 19,067 | 1.2 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0fa22q | h0fsn54 | 1,622,717,152 | 1,622,727,843 | 4 | 6 | Do as much drawing from life as possible. Unless you're preternaturally gifted in seeing the three dimensions of an object in your mind, do it like serious art students do and draw from life for the first few years of your drawing education. | If you think of learning to draw like learning a language (both take years of focused study to gain anything close to “fluency”), draw a box is like conjugating verbs and the “other 50%” is like talking to a native speaker. In order to learn a language, you need both and as frustrating as it is to know you’re making a ton of mistakes when you talk, you have to jump in and try to make yourself understood. If you wait until you’re better at the language before you try to speak, you’re only holding yourself back. Mistakes are opportunities to learn and if you draw something that you think sucks, no one ever needs to see it and you still learned something from the experience. | 0 | 10,691 | 1.5 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0e8j52 | h0fsn54 | 1,622,689,237 | 1,622,727,843 | 3 | 6 | Hmm maybe I'm approaching it wrong but the way I've been treating the 50% rule is to just draw for fun. I similarly only have a set amount of time to draw every day but I make sure that I'm done with whatever I was doing within that session. I just set a timer and when it's up I go do something else. I know this isn't "truly experimental" but I've found gesture/figure drawings to be really fun so I do those as part of the 50% as well. Croquis cafe has really nice ~20 min sessions that I do a few times a week. I think part of the goal of the 50% rule is to make sure you don't burn out, so if you're having fun it shouldn't really matter what you do. | If you think of learning to draw like learning a language (both take years of focused study to gain anything close to “fluency”), draw a box is like conjugating verbs and the “other 50%” is like talking to a native speaker. In order to learn a language, you need both and as frustrating as it is to know you’re making a ton of mistakes when you talk, you have to jump in and try to make yourself understood. If you wait until you’re better at the language before you try to speak, you’re only holding yourself back. Mistakes are opportunities to learn and if you draw something that you think sucks, no one ever needs to see it and you still learned something from the experience. | 0 | 38,606 | 2 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0f0hg4 | h0e8j52 | 1,622,708,776 | 1,622,689,237 | 5 | 3 | You don't have to force creativity, you don't have to force anything, just fill up that visual library with stress free studies https://youtu.be/WLqWX7onVmU And master studies https://youtu.be/CLojgjOAjDA Inspiration comes when it comes, the main thing is you are drawing something you enjoy, one way or another. studies are absolutely fine, until I started doing loads of master studies of other imaginative artists I couldnt even draw from the imagination at all. Shape language, composition, technique, there is a lot to learn so if you're anxious just do some quick sketches capturing the essence, its up to you what you want to learn and want to draw, if nothing comes from the imagination don't worry those burning creative ideas will kick in at some point, but you can't force creativity. | Hmm maybe I'm approaching it wrong but the way I've been treating the 50% rule is to just draw for fun. I similarly only have a set amount of time to draw every day but I make sure that I'm done with whatever I was doing within that session. I just set a timer and when it's up I go do something else. I know this isn't "truly experimental" but I've found gesture/figure drawings to be really fun so I do those as part of the 50% as well. Croquis cafe has really nice ~20 min sessions that I do a few times a week. I think part of the goal of the 50% rule is to make sure you don't burn out, so if you're having fun it shouldn't really matter what you do. | 1 | 19,539 | 1.666667 | ||
nqy871 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Struggling through the "other half" of the 50% rule I have been drawing for several (5+ years) but never consistently, often having several month spurts of progress and then proceeding to neglect drawing all together for the greater part of the rest of the year. Despite this, I’m somewhat okay at drawing, having produced a few things that may be impressive to the average person that doesn’t know much about art. I have a basic understanding of concepts like anatomy and color theory yet I have extremely weak fundamentals and lack understanding of drawing in the 3D space, hence why I am starting DAB. Besides inconsistency, I believe the two major issues stopping my progress have been my tendency to be a perfectionist and analysis paralysis, which ties into my dilemma. I restarted DaB this week but I did it last year (got much more far in lesson 1) and had the same exact issue. The issue I face I regarding the 50% rule. Right now I have maybe 1-1.5 hours to set aside for drawing, so not a ton but a comfortable amount. I find that I actually enjoy Drawabox a lot more. I have a clear idea of what I need to accomplish in a session and can get in the “flow” a lot easier. The “other half” seems a lot more stressful. With the other half, I tend to decide on something, scramble to find some references, and sometimes I will finish the drawing only after multiple sessions or I will scrap it half way through because I felt I was being to ambitious and try something else. The latter happens quite a bit. I tend to get really caught up in what I’m referencing or if I should be using references at all and producing something that matches at least to some extent what I had in my head. I hardly ever finish a single sketch in one 30 minute session because I have trouble following through unless I can produce something that I am at least somewhat satisfied with so it takes far too long just to finish a simple sketch. The other underlying issue with this is that I don’t really know what to do during this time. I know it’s supposed to be purely experimental, but I can’t help thinking I should be doing something that develops a certain skill. I could just pick something random but my mind just keeps telling me I have to be following some sort of progression. Putting aside development as I know that’s not the purpose, I still seem to fall back to something that aligns with a skill I had been trying to develop automatically instead of choosing something completely unrelated. Moreover, I feel somewhat overwhelmed with the overall “track” I should be taking with drawing since all of my existing skills have been developed haphazardly and out of order throughout the years. What will I do after DAB, and at what point do I need to add specific skill building while I do DAB? I guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. Drawing is currently just a hobby for my but I do have goals and above all want to make sure I’m using my time effectively. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! | h0e8j52 | h0fa22q | 1,622,689,237 | 1,622,717,152 | 3 | 4 | Hmm maybe I'm approaching it wrong but the way I've been treating the 50% rule is to just draw for fun. I similarly only have a set amount of time to draw every day but I make sure that I'm done with whatever I was doing within that session. I just set a timer and when it's up I go do something else. I know this isn't "truly experimental" but I've found gesture/figure drawings to be really fun so I do those as part of the 50% as well. Croquis cafe has really nice ~20 min sessions that I do a few times a week. I think part of the goal of the 50% rule is to make sure you don't burn out, so if you're having fun it shouldn't really matter what you do. | Do as much drawing from life as possible. Unless you're preternaturally gifted in seeing the three dimensions of an object in your mind, do it like serious art students do and draw from life for the first few years of your drawing education. | 0 | 27,915 | 1.333333 | ||
gwqfb7 | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | What other drawing exercises do you do besides drawabox? I'm a total beginner and attempting to do the drawabox but honestly I'm always procrastinating and am still on lesson 1 about boxes. I'm dredging doing the 250 boxes challenge... the website does mention 50% should be just drawing so maybe thats why im getting nowhere. what should i be drawing to get better? im kinda interested in trying out gesture drawing. the video of proko was super interesting and it seems fun but would it be too difficult for a beginner? or should i try drawing leaves and things like that? sorry if im rambling... | fsy73xs | fsxlswb | 1,591,341,146 | 1,591,326,219 | 8 | 5 | I love to go on the subreddit r/sketchdaily and try my hand at whatever the prompt of the day is. It means someone else has picked the topic already so I don't spend ages panicking and thinking 'what do I want to draw!' I also like it because lots of artists with many different styles post and I can copy their style to improve my drawing overall and decide if that is a style I like for me and should explore more. | Absolutely draw gestures. One of the great things about gesture drawing is that the drawings don’t have to look “right”. And I find that as you do more of them, you get better at proportions and line of action. If you’re at all interested in figure, they’re excellent. | 1 | 14,927 | 1.6 | ||
gwqfb7 | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | What other drawing exercises do you do besides drawabox? I'm a total beginner and attempting to do the drawabox but honestly I'm always procrastinating and am still on lesson 1 about boxes. I'm dredging doing the 250 boxes challenge... the website does mention 50% should be just drawing so maybe thats why im getting nowhere. what should i be drawing to get better? im kinda interested in trying out gesture drawing. the video of proko was super interesting and it seems fun but would it be too difficult for a beginner? or should i try drawing leaves and things like that? sorry if im rambling... | fsy73xs | fsxihue | 1,591,341,146 | 1,591,324,269 | 8 | 3 | I love to go on the subreddit r/sketchdaily and try my hand at whatever the prompt of the day is. It means someone else has picked the topic already so I don't spend ages panicking and thinking 'what do I want to draw!' I also like it because lots of artists with many different styles post and I can copy their style to improve my drawing overall and decide if that is a style I like for me and should explore more. | Whatever the hell you find fun to draw. The point of the 50% rule is so that you have time where you are not stressing and worrying or comparing. I'm either making attempts at ideas I have but with the mindset that it won't be good and thats fine, or doing tangle patterns. | 1 | 16,877 | 2.666667 | ||
gwqfb7 | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | What other drawing exercises do you do besides drawabox? I'm a total beginner and attempting to do the drawabox but honestly I'm always procrastinating and am still on lesson 1 about boxes. I'm dredging doing the 250 boxes challenge... the website does mention 50% should be just drawing so maybe thats why im getting nowhere. what should i be drawing to get better? im kinda interested in trying out gesture drawing. the video of proko was super interesting and it seems fun but would it be too difficult for a beginner? or should i try drawing leaves and things like that? sorry if im rambling... | fsxhuhx | fsy73xs | 1,591,323,892 | 1,591,341,146 | 2 | 8 | Just do it dude. Your gonna suck and that’s okay! It’s good to have structure if you want to get good at something but honestly when I started doing art I was just doing things that seemed interesting and failing, then trying to learn how to get better each time. I’ve noticed a lot of posts on the internet where people feel anxious about starting anything because they’re scared what they make will look bad. Have fun with it, don’t stress to hard about the progress. You can always become more structured as you continue on with your art journey. | I love to go on the subreddit r/sketchdaily and try my hand at whatever the prompt of the day is. It means someone else has picked the topic already so I don't spend ages panicking and thinking 'what do I want to draw!' I also like it because lots of artists with many different styles post and I can copy their style to improve my drawing overall and decide if that is a style I like for me and should explore more. | 0 | 17,254 | 4 | ||
gwqfb7 | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | What other drawing exercises do you do besides drawabox? I'm a total beginner and attempting to do the drawabox but honestly I'm always procrastinating and am still on lesson 1 about boxes. I'm dredging doing the 250 boxes challenge... the website does mention 50% should be just drawing so maybe thats why im getting nowhere. what should i be drawing to get better? im kinda interested in trying out gesture drawing. the video of proko was super interesting and it seems fun but would it be too difficult for a beginner? or should i try drawing leaves and things like that? sorry if im rambling... | fsy73xs | fsy4hht | 1,591,341,146 | 1,591,338,974 | 8 | 2 | I love to go on the subreddit r/sketchdaily and try my hand at whatever the prompt of the day is. It means someone else has picked the topic already so I don't spend ages panicking and thinking 'what do I want to draw!' I also like it because lots of artists with many different styles post and I can copy their style to improve my drawing overall and decide if that is a style I like for me and should explore more. | I've been doing The Art and Science of Drawing on Udemy. It is also construction drawing. I really like it. | 1 | 2,172 | 4 | ||
gwqfb7 | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | What other drawing exercises do you do besides drawabox? I'm a total beginner and attempting to do the drawabox but honestly I'm always procrastinating and am still on lesson 1 about boxes. I'm dredging doing the 250 boxes challenge... the website does mention 50% should be just drawing so maybe thats why im getting nowhere. what should i be drawing to get better? im kinda interested in trying out gesture drawing. the video of proko was super interesting and it seems fun but would it be too difficult for a beginner? or should i try drawing leaves and things like that? sorry if im rambling... | fsxlswb | fsxihue | 1,591,326,219 | 1,591,324,269 | 5 | 3 | Absolutely draw gestures. One of the great things about gesture drawing is that the drawings don’t have to look “right”. And I find that as you do more of them, you get better at proportions and line of action. If you’re at all interested in figure, they’re excellent. | Whatever the hell you find fun to draw. The point of the 50% rule is so that you have time where you are not stressing and worrying or comparing. I'm either making attempts at ideas I have but with the mindset that it won't be good and thats fine, or doing tangle patterns. | 1 | 1,950 | 1.666667 | ||
gwqfb7 | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | What other drawing exercises do you do besides drawabox? I'm a total beginner and attempting to do the drawabox but honestly I'm always procrastinating and am still on lesson 1 about boxes. I'm dredging doing the 250 boxes challenge... the website does mention 50% should be just drawing so maybe thats why im getting nowhere. what should i be drawing to get better? im kinda interested in trying out gesture drawing. the video of proko was super interesting and it seems fun but would it be too difficult for a beginner? or should i try drawing leaves and things like that? sorry if im rambling... | fsxlswb | fsxhuhx | 1,591,326,219 | 1,591,323,892 | 5 | 2 | Absolutely draw gestures. One of the great things about gesture drawing is that the drawings don’t have to look “right”. And I find that as you do more of them, you get better at proportions and line of action. If you’re at all interested in figure, they’re excellent. | Just do it dude. Your gonna suck and that’s okay! It’s good to have structure if you want to get good at something but honestly when I started doing art I was just doing things that seemed interesting and failing, then trying to learn how to get better each time. I’ve noticed a lot of posts on the internet where people feel anxious about starting anything because they’re scared what they make will look bad. Have fun with it, don’t stress to hard about the progress. You can always become more structured as you continue on with your art journey. | 1 | 2,327 | 2.5 | ||
gwqfb7 | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | What other drawing exercises do you do besides drawabox? I'm a total beginner and attempting to do the drawabox but honestly I'm always procrastinating and am still on lesson 1 about boxes. I'm dredging doing the 250 boxes challenge... the website does mention 50% should be just drawing so maybe thats why im getting nowhere. what should i be drawing to get better? im kinda interested in trying out gesture drawing. the video of proko was super interesting and it seems fun but would it be too difficult for a beginner? or should i try drawing leaves and things like that? sorry if im rambling... | fsxihue | fsxhuhx | 1,591,324,269 | 1,591,323,892 | 3 | 2 | Whatever the hell you find fun to draw. The point of the 50% rule is so that you have time where you are not stressing and worrying or comparing. I'm either making attempts at ideas I have but with the mindset that it won't be good and thats fine, or doing tangle patterns. | Just do it dude. Your gonna suck and that’s okay! It’s good to have structure if you want to get good at something but honestly when I started doing art I was just doing things that seemed interesting and failing, then trying to learn how to get better each time. I’ve noticed a lot of posts on the internet where people feel anxious about starting anything because they’re scared what they make will look bad. Have fun with it, don’t stress to hard about the progress. You can always become more structured as you continue on with your art journey. | 1 | 377 | 1.5 | ||
gwqfb7 | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | What other drawing exercises do you do besides drawabox? I'm a total beginner and attempting to do the drawabox but honestly I'm always procrastinating and am still on lesson 1 about boxes. I'm dredging doing the 250 boxes challenge... the website does mention 50% should be just drawing so maybe thats why im getting nowhere. what should i be drawing to get better? im kinda interested in trying out gesture drawing. the video of proko was super interesting and it seems fun but would it be too difficult for a beginner? or should i try drawing leaves and things like that? sorry if im rambling... | fsyb25a | fsxhuhx | 1,591,344,621 | 1,591,323,892 | 3 | 2 | Master studies. | Just do it dude. Your gonna suck and that’s okay! It’s good to have structure if you want to get good at something but honestly when I started doing art I was just doing things that seemed interesting and failing, then trying to learn how to get better each time. I’ve noticed a lot of posts on the internet where people feel anxious about starting anything because they’re scared what they make will look bad. Have fun with it, don’t stress to hard about the progress. You can always become more structured as you continue on with your art journey. | 1 | 20,729 | 1.5 | ||
gwqfb7 | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | What other drawing exercises do you do besides drawabox? I'm a total beginner and attempting to do the drawabox but honestly I'm always procrastinating and am still on lesson 1 about boxes. I'm dredging doing the 250 boxes challenge... the website does mention 50% should be just drawing so maybe thats why im getting nowhere. what should i be drawing to get better? im kinda interested in trying out gesture drawing. the video of proko was super interesting and it seems fun but would it be too difficult for a beginner? or should i try drawing leaves and things like that? sorry if im rambling... | fsy4hht | fsyb25a | 1,591,338,974 | 1,591,344,621 | 2 | 3 | I've been doing The Art and Science of Drawing on Udemy. It is also construction drawing. I really like it. | Master studies. | 0 | 5,647 | 1.5 | ||
mo9foc | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | People who have completed Drawabox, how do you all feel when you draw? How has it changed your experience while constructing your drawings, mainly Anatomy, Backgrounds, etc.? Do you feel confident when you start the construction of your sketch? More than the result, I'm interested to know how your journey of drawing the sketch has changed | gu3ddph | gu2vj0t | 1,618,096,950 | 1,618,087,240 | 74 | 63 | The boxes are just a foundation to train your mind to see in 3d. Once your mind understand how to make the analogy between an object and a simple form, drawing becomes easier. Drawing all those boxes help to observe objects and imagine how to translate its spacial relations in a 2d canvas. | I think this is a valuable question. | 1 | 9,710 | 1.174603 | ||
c3ncl1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | What happened to “Draw-a-Box” Human Anatomy Lessons? And will they be coming back? Draw-a-Box has definitely helped me a lot during the long-run. I would love if uncomfortable somehow returned those lessons. | ers8if0 | ers82e3 | 1,561,205,207 | 1,561,204,644 | 46 | 7 | The way back machine to the rescue! https://web.archive.org/web/20160101153257/http://drawabox.com/lesson/8 https://web.archive.org/web/20160124012619/http://drawabox.com/lesson/9 https://web.archive.org/web/20160111133206/http://drawabox.com/lesson/10 https://web.archive.org/web/20160111133201/http://drawabox.com/lesson/11 https://web.archive.org/web/20160201014150/http://drawabox.com/lesson/12 https://web.archive.org/web/20160201015041/http://drawabox.com/lesson/13 Keep in mind he took these down for a reason, and I seem to recall he thought there were better ways to learn it | From what I understand, u/uncomfortable has removed those lessons because he felt more comfortable teaching us (and perfecting the teaching method of) all the other lessons. I'm not sure where, but he's mentioned this on DaB and in the reddit threads. | 1 | 563 | 6.571429 | ||
c3ncl1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | What happened to “Draw-a-Box” Human Anatomy Lessons? And will they be coming back? Draw-a-Box has definitely helped me a lot during the long-run. I would love if uncomfortable somehow returned those lessons. | ersbwae | ers9oue | 1,561,209,002 | 1,561,206,612 | 21 | 16 | /u/uncomfortable could you add all the previous lessons back but maybe with a big red warning at the top "THESE LESSIONS ARE DEPRECATED, INSTEAD TRY THIS BOOK / TUTORIAL / LINK"? I think they're probably still a good starting point for people even if they're outdated as you mentioned. | I seem to recall him saying use proko | 1 | 2,390 | 1.3125 | ||
c3ncl1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | What happened to “Draw-a-Box” Human Anatomy Lessons? And will they be coming back? Draw-a-Box has definitely helped me a lot during the long-run. I would love if uncomfortable somehow returned those lessons. | ers82e3 | ersbwae | 1,561,204,644 | 1,561,209,002 | 7 | 21 | From what I understand, u/uncomfortable has removed those lessons because he felt more comfortable teaching us (and perfecting the teaching method of) all the other lessons. I'm not sure where, but he's mentioned this on DaB and in the reddit threads. | /u/uncomfortable could you add all the previous lessons back but maybe with a big red warning at the top "THESE LESSIONS ARE DEPRECATED, INSTEAD TRY THIS BOOK / TUTORIAL / LINK"? I think they're probably still a good starting point for people even if they're outdated as you mentioned. | 0 | 4,358 | 3 | ||
c3ncl1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | What happened to “Draw-a-Box” Human Anatomy Lessons? And will they be coming back? Draw-a-Box has definitely helped me a lot during the long-run. I would love if uncomfortable somehow returned those lessons. | ers9oue | ers82e3 | 1,561,206,612 | 1,561,204,644 | 16 | 7 | I seem to recall him saying use proko | From what I understand, u/uncomfortable has removed those lessons because he felt more comfortable teaching us (and perfecting the teaching method of) all the other lessons. I'm not sure where, but he's mentioned this on DaB and in the reddit threads. | 1 | 1,968 | 2.285714 | ||
c3ncl1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | What happened to “Draw-a-Box” Human Anatomy Lessons? And will they be coming back? Draw-a-Box has definitely helped me a lot during the long-run. I would love if uncomfortable somehow returned those lessons. | ers82e3 | ersg98m | 1,561,204,644 | 1,561,213,124 | 7 | 8 | From what I understand, u/uncomfortable has removed those lessons because he felt more comfortable teaching us (and perfecting the teaching method of) all the other lessons. I'm not sure where, but he's mentioned this on DaB and in the reddit threads. | i work with the books of andrew lewis right now and make quite a bit of progress with the human body. they are for free on the internet as an alternative. | 0 | 8,480 | 1.142857 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyjjhde | fyiybev | 1,595,147,818 | 1,595,129,257 | 57 | 46 | Challenging yourself is way more important than spending multiple hours per day. If it feels like a struggle you're doing it right, like fighting a dark souls boss. If it's effortless doodling, you're not going to improve nearly as much. | Lesson I learned from a teacher in a computer science course. Since programmers can be very preachy, he at the beginning said that “It doesn’t matter how you end up compared to someone else, what matters is how you end up compared to when you yourself began.” Words to live by! | 1 | 18,561 | 1.23913 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyjjhde | fyjcnkk | 1,595,147,818 | 1,595,140,813 | 57 | 27 | Challenging yourself is way more important than spending multiple hours per day. If it feels like a struggle you're doing it right, like fighting a dark souls boss. If it's effortless doodling, you're not going to improve nearly as much. | Something is always better than nothing. I am not great at drawing, it's one of my new hobbies, but I have been good at other things and kicked myself for taking breaks for a couple years rather than just doing what I could when I could. Also, fall behind who? Unless drawing is your source of income you shouldn't be worried about that. | 1 | 7,005 | 2.111111 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyi2qso | fyjjhde | 1,595,109,521 | 1,595,147,818 | 19 | 57 | You can totally improve practicing 4 hours a week. Sure it might not be as fast as however many hours a day, but you'll improve at your own rate. Everyone's journey is different, don't compare your rate of improvement to others. At the end of the day it's how you spend the time rather than how much time is spent. | Challenging yourself is way more important than spending multiple hours per day. If it feels like a struggle you're doing it right, like fighting a dark souls boss. If it's effortless doodling, you're not going to improve nearly as much. | 0 | 38,297 | 3 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyjjhde | fyj7jvl | 1,595,147,818 | 1,595,136,216 | 57 | 17 | Challenging yourself is way more important than spending multiple hours per day. If it feels like a struggle you're doing it right, like fighting a dark souls boss. If it's effortless doodling, you're not going to improve nearly as much. | It's OK. Just know a few minutes everyday is better than hours on two or so days. | 1 | 11,602 | 3.352941 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyirl3u | fyjjhde | 1,595,124,755 | 1,595,147,818 | 12 | 57 | It certainly can be enough. But it will take a bit of discipline to practice effectively. It will be important to use that time to not only work on the basics, but also make time to try things that push your skill level so you don't end up spinning your wheels and seeing little or no progress. This is important whether your practicing 4 hours a week, or 24 hours. But the less time, the more care is needed to make sure your get a good mix of both in. | Challenging yourself is way more important than spending multiple hours per day. If it feels like a struggle you're doing it right, like fighting a dark souls boss. If it's effortless doodling, you're not going to improve nearly as much. | 0 | 23,063 | 4.75 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyj25ds | fyjjhde | 1,595,131,990 | 1,595,147,818 | 11 | 57 | You can also do a 10 minute a day doodle. It will at least keep your mind in the groove and your hand/wrist/arm will develop as well as your eye. Especially when you look forward to it all day and have something in mind | Challenging yourself is way more important than spending multiple hours per day. If it feels like a struggle you're doing it right, like fighting a dark souls boss. If it's effortless doodling, you're not going to improve nearly as much. | 0 | 15,828 | 5.181818 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyjjhde | fyiavxv | 1,595,147,818 | 1,595,114,196 | 57 | 7 | Challenging yourself is way more important than spending multiple hours per day. If it feels like a struggle you're doing it right, like fighting a dark souls boss. If it's effortless doodling, you're not going to improve nearly as much. | I tried to draw every day when I started, and I mostly made a routine out of it, and I fell out of the rhythm but drew intensively for a few hours every few days, and that kind of still works for me. I stopped drawing when I don't feel like it and instead try to pump up myself what exciting things I'm going to draw next. | 1 | 33,622 | 8.142857 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyjjhde | fyj7lah | 1,595,147,818 | 1,595,136,250 | 57 | 6 | Challenging yourself is way more important than spending multiple hours per day. If it feels like a struggle you're doing it right, like fighting a dark souls boss. If it's effortless doodling, you're not going to improve nearly as much. | Same here, not getting time to draw daily and it is so so frustating... But I guess we have to start taking out time for living and for creative people it is usually what they enjoy doing the most... until we strt having earning through artworks a norm, we will have to keep struggling to juggle between our jobs and our creative passions because the world decided it will work basis a printed piece of paper it calls currency! | 1 | 11,568 | 9.5 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyi2qso | fyiybev | 1,595,109,521 | 1,595,129,257 | 19 | 46 | You can totally improve practicing 4 hours a week. Sure it might not be as fast as however many hours a day, but you'll improve at your own rate. Everyone's journey is different, don't compare your rate of improvement to others. At the end of the day it's how you spend the time rather than how much time is spent. | Lesson I learned from a teacher in a computer science course. Since programmers can be very preachy, he at the beginning said that “It doesn’t matter how you end up compared to someone else, what matters is how you end up compared to when you yourself began.” Words to live by! | 0 | 19,736 | 2.421053 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyirl3u | fyiybev | 1,595,124,755 | 1,595,129,257 | 12 | 46 | It certainly can be enough. But it will take a bit of discipline to practice effectively. It will be important to use that time to not only work on the basics, but also make time to try things that push your skill level so you don't end up spinning your wheels and seeing little or no progress. This is important whether your practicing 4 hours a week, or 24 hours. But the less time, the more care is needed to make sure your get a good mix of both in. | Lesson I learned from a teacher in a computer science course. Since programmers can be very preachy, he at the beginning said that “It doesn’t matter how you end up compared to someone else, what matters is how you end up compared to when you yourself began.” Words to live by! | 0 | 4,502 | 3.833333 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyiybev | fyiavxv | 1,595,129,257 | 1,595,114,196 | 46 | 7 | Lesson I learned from a teacher in a computer science course. Since programmers can be very preachy, he at the beginning said that “It doesn’t matter how you end up compared to someone else, what matters is how you end up compared to when you yourself began.” Words to live by! | I tried to draw every day when I started, and I mostly made a routine out of it, and I fell out of the rhythm but drew intensively for a few hours every few days, and that kind of still works for me. I stopped drawing when I don't feel like it and instead try to pump up myself what exciting things I'm going to draw next. | 1 | 15,061 | 6.571429 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyi2qso | fyjcnkk | 1,595,109,521 | 1,595,140,813 | 19 | 27 | You can totally improve practicing 4 hours a week. Sure it might not be as fast as however many hours a day, but you'll improve at your own rate. Everyone's journey is different, don't compare your rate of improvement to others. At the end of the day it's how you spend the time rather than how much time is spent. | Something is always better than nothing. I am not great at drawing, it's one of my new hobbies, but I have been good at other things and kicked myself for taking breaks for a couple years rather than just doing what I could when I could. Also, fall behind who? Unless drawing is your source of income you shouldn't be worried about that. | 0 | 31,292 | 1.421053 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyjcnkk | fyj7jvl | 1,595,140,813 | 1,595,136,216 | 27 | 17 | Something is always better than nothing. I am not great at drawing, it's one of my new hobbies, but I have been good at other things and kicked myself for taking breaks for a couple years rather than just doing what I could when I could. Also, fall behind who? Unless drawing is your source of income you shouldn't be worried about that. | It's OK. Just know a few minutes everyday is better than hours on two or so days. | 1 | 4,597 | 1.588235 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyjcnkk | fyirl3u | 1,595,140,813 | 1,595,124,755 | 27 | 12 | Something is always better than nothing. I am not great at drawing, it's one of my new hobbies, but I have been good at other things and kicked myself for taking breaks for a couple years rather than just doing what I could when I could. Also, fall behind who? Unless drawing is your source of income you shouldn't be worried about that. | It certainly can be enough. But it will take a bit of discipline to practice effectively. It will be important to use that time to not only work on the basics, but also make time to try things that push your skill level so you don't end up spinning your wheels and seeing little or no progress. This is important whether your practicing 4 hours a week, or 24 hours. But the less time, the more care is needed to make sure your get a good mix of both in. | 1 | 16,058 | 2.25 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyj25ds | fyjcnkk | 1,595,131,990 | 1,595,140,813 | 11 | 27 | You can also do a 10 minute a day doodle. It will at least keep your mind in the groove and your hand/wrist/arm will develop as well as your eye. Especially when you look forward to it all day and have something in mind | Something is always better than nothing. I am not great at drawing, it's one of my new hobbies, but I have been good at other things and kicked myself for taking breaks for a couple years rather than just doing what I could when I could. Also, fall behind who? Unless drawing is your source of income you shouldn't be worried about that. | 0 | 8,823 | 2.454545 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyiavxv | fyjcnkk | 1,595,114,196 | 1,595,140,813 | 7 | 27 | I tried to draw every day when I started, and I mostly made a routine out of it, and I fell out of the rhythm but drew intensively for a few hours every few days, and that kind of still works for me. I stopped drawing when I don't feel like it and instead try to pump up myself what exciting things I'm going to draw next. | Something is always better than nothing. I am not great at drawing, it's one of my new hobbies, but I have been good at other things and kicked myself for taking breaks for a couple years rather than just doing what I could when I could. Also, fall behind who? Unless drawing is your source of income you shouldn't be worried about that. | 0 | 26,617 | 3.857143 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyjcnkk | fyj7lah | 1,595,140,813 | 1,595,136,250 | 27 | 6 | Something is always better than nothing. I am not great at drawing, it's one of my new hobbies, but I have been good at other things and kicked myself for taking breaks for a couple years rather than just doing what I could when I could. Also, fall behind who? Unless drawing is your source of income you shouldn't be worried about that. | Same here, not getting time to draw daily and it is so so frustating... But I guess we have to start taking out time for living and for creative people it is usually what they enjoy doing the most... until we strt having earning through artworks a norm, we will have to keep struggling to juggle between our jobs and our creative passions because the world decided it will work basis a printed piece of paper it calls currency! | 1 | 4,563 | 4.5 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyi2qso | fykmnqv | 1,595,109,521 | 1,595,177,663 | 19 | 21 | You can totally improve practicing 4 hours a week. Sure it might not be as fast as however many hours a day, but you'll improve at your own rate. Everyone's journey is different, don't compare your rate of improvement to others. At the end of the day it's how you spend the time rather than how much time is spent. | Yup! As long as you are mindful of what you’re doing. (Doodling is different) any practice, that is done well, is good practice | 0 | 68,142 | 1.105263 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fykho16 | fykmnqv | 1,595,174,974 | 1,595,177,663 | 19 | 21 | So I am sure you know this but it's not only the amount of time you put in. It's the quality of the work you produce. It doesnt have to be a Picaso but it does have to be something that pushes you foward ever so slightly. What's the point of drawing for 4 hours if you keep using bad habits and rushing your work. 1 hour of quality studying can surpass multiple hours of crap. What I am trying to say is focus on learning more so than elongation of drawing time. If your busy schedule only permits 2 hours a day then make the most of it by pushing yourself outside your comfort zones. | Yup! As long as you are mindful of what you’re doing. (Doodling is different) any practice, that is done well, is good practice | 0 | 2,689 | 1.105263 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fykmnqv | fyj7jvl | 1,595,177,663 | 1,595,136,216 | 21 | 17 | Yup! As long as you are mindful of what you’re doing. (Doodling is different) any practice, that is done well, is good practice | It's OK. Just know a few minutes everyday is better than hours on two or so days. | 1 | 41,447 | 1.235294 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fykmnqv | fyjw2gu | 1,595,177,663 | 1,595,160,968 | 21 | 17 | Yup! As long as you are mindful of what you’re doing. (Doodling is different) any practice, that is done well, is good practice | Logging hours will do nothing for you ... unless you full understand principles you will repeat errors in drawing until they become ingrained in your process. Don't just repeat exercises: understand the principles behind value and how to check yourself. Understand principles of proportion until they are automatic. Understand composition until it is intuitive. Understand perspective that comes readily to you. Study necessary principles before you draw them. Two hours spent on anatomy proportion will do you far more good than four hours drawing ill proportioned figures. | 1 | 16,695 | 1.235294 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fykmnqv | fyjt8qc | 1,595,177,663 | 1,595,158,299 | 21 | 15 | Yup! As long as you are mindful of what you’re doing. (Doodling is different) any practice, that is done well, is good practice | I don't think time is the most definitive factor. I drew countless hours and didn't learn anything and yet when I really try to understand something mindfully, I improve very very quickly. | 1 | 19,364 | 1.4 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyirl3u | fykmnqv | 1,595,124,755 | 1,595,177,663 | 12 | 21 | It certainly can be enough. But it will take a bit of discipline to practice effectively. It will be important to use that time to not only work on the basics, but also make time to try things that push your skill level so you don't end up spinning your wheels and seeing little or no progress. This is important whether your practicing 4 hours a week, or 24 hours. But the less time, the more care is needed to make sure your get a good mix of both in. | Yup! As long as you are mindful of what you’re doing. (Doodling is different) any practice, that is done well, is good practice | 0 | 52,908 | 1.75 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyj25ds | fykmnqv | 1,595,131,990 | 1,595,177,663 | 11 | 21 | You can also do a 10 minute a day doodle. It will at least keep your mind in the groove and your hand/wrist/arm will develop as well as your eye. Especially when you look forward to it all day and have something in mind | Yup! As long as you are mindful of what you’re doing. (Doodling is different) any practice, that is done well, is good practice | 0 | 45,673 | 1.909091 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyjzdqm | fykmnqv | 1,595,163,725 | 1,595,177,663 | 8 | 21 | I think it's better to draw consistently everyday than a lot once a week even if your sessions are shorter | Yup! As long as you are mindful of what you’re doing. (Doodling is different) any practice, that is done well, is good practice | 0 | 13,938 | 2.625 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fykmnqv | fyiavxv | 1,595,177,663 | 1,595,114,196 | 21 | 7 | Yup! As long as you are mindful of what you’re doing. (Doodling is different) any practice, that is done well, is good practice | I tried to draw every day when I started, and I mostly made a routine out of it, and I fell out of the rhythm but drew intensively for a few hours every few days, and that kind of still works for me. I stopped drawing when I don't feel like it and instead try to pump up myself what exciting things I'm going to draw next. | 1 | 63,467 | 3 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyj7lah | fykmnqv | 1,595,136,250 | 1,595,177,663 | 6 | 21 | Same here, not getting time to draw daily and it is so so frustating... But I guess we have to start taking out time for living and for creative people it is usually what they enjoy doing the most... until we strt having earning through artworks a norm, we will have to keep struggling to juggle between our jobs and our creative passions because the world decided it will work basis a printed piece of paper it calls currency! | Yup! As long as you are mindful of what you’re doing. (Doodling is different) any practice, that is done well, is good practice | 0 | 41,413 | 3.5 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fykmnqv | fyjsot6 | 1,595,177,663 | 1,595,157,812 | 21 | 5 | Yup! As long as you are mindful of what you’re doing. (Doodling is different) any practice, that is done well, is good practice | It depends on what you want to achieve, if you want to grow your skill, sure, it can be "enough". If you want to become a professional and compete with other people, i don't think that's enough, not at all. There are people out there doing it for 10h/day for years and years, you will never be able to reach that level without praticing A LOT. There are not "gifted" people who can magically draw without the knowledge or pratice, that's sad but in the end it's the truth. | 1 | 19,851 | 4.2 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyjywdu | fykmnqv | 1,595,163,356 | 1,595,177,663 | 3 | 21 | Learning more is better than drawing more | Yup! As long as you are mindful of what you’re doing. (Doodling is different) any practice, that is done well, is good practice | 0 | 14,307 | 7 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fykho16 | fyj7jvl | 1,595,174,974 | 1,595,136,216 | 19 | 17 | So I am sure you know this but it's not only the amount of time you put in. It's the quality of the work you produce. It doesnt have to be a Picaso but it does have to be something that pushes you foward ever so slightly. What's the point of drawing for 4 hours if you keep using bad habits and rushing your work. 1 hour of quality studying can surpass multiple hours of crap. What I am trying to say is focus on learning more so than elongation of drawing time. If your busy schedule only permits 2 hours a day then make the most of it by pushing yourself outside your comfort zones. | It's OK. Just know a few minutes everyday is better than hours on two or so days. | 1 | 38,758 | 1.117647 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fykho16 | fyjw2gu | 1,595,174,974 | 1,595,160,968 | 19 | 17 | So I am sure you know this but it's not only the amount of time you put in. It's the quality of the work you produce. It doesnt have to be a Picaso but it does have to be something that pushes you foward ever so slightly. What's the point of drawing for 4 hours if you keep using bad habits and rushing your work. 1 hour of quality studying can surpass multiple hours of crap. What I am trying to say is focus on learning more so than elongation of drawing time. If your busy schedule only permits 2 hours a day then make the most of it by pushing yourself outside your comfort zones. | Logging hours will do nothing for you ... unless you full understand principles you will repeat errors in drawing until they become ingrained in your process. Don't just repeat exercises: understand the principles behind value and how to check yourself. Understand principles of proportion until they are automatic. Understand composition until it is intuitive. Understand perspective that comes readily to you. Study necessary principles before you draw them. Two hours spent on anatomy proportion will do you far more good than four hours drawing ill proportioned figures. | 1 | 14,006 | 1.117647 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fykho16 | fyjt8qc | 1,595,174,974 | 1,595,158,299 | 19 | 15 | So I am sure you know this but it's not only the amount of time you put in. It's the quality of the work you produce. It doesnt have to be a Picaso but it does have to be something that pushes you foward ever so slightly. What's the point of drawing for 4 hours if you keep using bad habits and rushing your work. 1 hour of quality studying can surpass multiple hours of crap. What I am trying to say is focus on learning more so than elongation of drawing time. If your busy schedule only permits 2 hours a day then make the most of it by pushing yourself outside your comfort zones. | I don't think time is the most definitive factor. I drew countless hours and didn't learn anything and yet when I really try to understand something mindfully, I improve very very quickly. | 1 | 16,675 | 1.266667 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyirl3u | fykho16 | 1,595,124,755 | 1,595,174,974 | 12 | 19 | It certainly can be enough. But it will take a bit of discipline to practice effectively. It will be important to use that time to not only work on the basics, but also make time to try things that push your skill level so you don't end up spinning your wheels and seeing little or no progress. This is important whether your practicing 4 hours a week, or 24 hours. But the less time, the more care is needed to make sure your get a good mix of both in. | So I am sure you know this but it's not only the amount of time you put in. It's the quality of the work you produce. It doesnt have to be a Picaso but it does have to be something that pushes you foward ever so slightly. What's the point of drawing for 4 hours if you keep using bad habits and rushing your work. 1 hour of quality studying can surpass multiple hours of crap. What I am trying to say is focus on learning more so than elongation of drawing time. If your busy schedule only permits 2 hours a day then make the most of it by pushing yourself outside your comfort zones. | 0 | 50,219 | 1.583333 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyj25ds | fykho16 | 1,595,131,990 | 1,595,174,974 | 11 | 19 | You can also do a 10 minute a day doodle. It will at least keep your mind in the groove and your hand/wrist/arm will develop as well as your eye. Especially when you look forward to it all day and have something in mind | So I am sure you know this but it's not only the amount of time you put in. It's the quality of the work you produce. It doesnt have to be a Picaso but it does have to be something that pushes you foward ever so slightly. What's the point of drawing for 4 hours if you keep using bad habits and rushing your work. 1 hour of quality studying can surpass multiple hours of crap. What I am trying to say is focus on learning more so than elongation of drawing time. If your busy schedule only permits 2 hours a day then make the most of it by pushing yourself outside your comfort zones. | 0 | 42,984 | 1.727273 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fykho16 | fyjzdqm | 1,595,174,974 | 1,595,163,725 | 19 | 8 | So I am sure you know this but it's not only the amount of time you put in. It's the quality of the work you produce. It doesnt have to be a Picaso but it does have to be something that pushes you foward ever so slightly. What's the point of drawing for 4 hours if you keep using bad habits and rushing your work. 1 hour of quality studying can surpass multiple hours of crap. What I am trying to say is focus on learning more so than elongation of drawing time. If your busy schedule only permits 2 hours a day then make the most of it by pushing yourself outside your comfort zones. | I think it's better to draw consistently everyday than a lot once a week even if your sessions are shorter | 1 | 11,249 | 2.375 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fykho16 | fyiavxv | 1,595,174,974 | 1,595,114,196 | 19 | 7 | So I am sure you know this but it's not only the amount of time you put in. It's the quality of the work you produce. It doesnt have to be a Picaso but it does have to be something that pushes you foward ever so slightly. What's the point of drawing for 4 hours if you keep using bad habits and rushing your work. 1 hour of quality studying can surpass multiple hours of crap. What I am trying to say is focus on learning more so than elongation of drawing time. If your busy schedule only permits 2 hours a day then make the most of it by pushing yourself outside your comfort zones. | I tried to draw every day when I started, and I mostly made a routine out of it, and I fell out of the rhythm but drew intensively for a few hours every few days, and that kind of still works for me. I stopped drawing when I don't feel like it and instead try to pump up myself what exciting things I'm going to draw next. | 1 | 60,778 | 2.714286 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyj7lah | fykho16 | 1,595,136,250 | 1,595,174,974 | 6 | 19 | Same here, not getting time to draw daily and it is so so frustating... But I guess we have to start taking out time for living and for creative people it is usually what they enjoy doing the most... until we strt having earning through artworks a norm, we will have to keep struggling to juggle between our jobs and our creative passions because the world decided it will work basis a printed piece of paper it calls currency! | So I am sure you know this but it's not only the amount of time you put in. It's the quality of the work you produce. It doesnt have to be a Picaso but it does have to be something that pushes you foward ever so slightly. What's the point of drawing for 4 hours if you keep using bad habits and rushing your work. 1 hour of quality studying can surpass multiple hours of crap. What I am trying to say is focus on learning more so than elongation of drawing time. If your busy schedule only permits 2 hours a day then make the most of it by pushing yourself outside your comfort zones. | 0 | 38,724 | 3.166667 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fykho16 | fyjsot6 | 1,595,174,974 | 1,595,157,812 | 19 | 5 | So I am sure you know this but it's not only the amount of time you put in. It's the quality of the work you produce. It doesnt have to be a Picaso but it does have to be something that pushes you foward ever so slightly. What's the point of drawing for 4 hours if you keep using bad habits and rushing your work. 1 hour of quality studying can surpass multiple hours of crap. What I am trying to say is focus on learning more so than elongation of drawing time. If your busy schedule only permits 2 hours a day then make the most of it by pushing yourself outside your comfort zones. | It depends on what you want to achieve, if you want to grow your skill, sure, it can be "enough". If you want to become a professional and compete with other people, i don't think that's enough, not at all. There are people out there doing it for 10h/day for years and years, you will never be able to reach that level without praticing A LOT. There are not "gifted" people who can magically draw without the knowledge or pratice, that's sad but in the end it's the truth. | 1 | 17,162 | 3.8 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyjywdu | fykho16 | 1,595,163,356 | 1,595,174,974 | 3 | 19 | Learning more is better than drawing more | So I am sure you know this but it's not only the amount of time you put in. It's the quality of the work you produce. It doesnt have to be a Picaso but it does have to be something that pushes you foward ever so slightly. What's the point of drawing for 4 hours if you keep using bad habits and rushing your work. 1 hour of quality studying can surpass multiple hours of crap. What I am trying to say is focus on learning more so than elongation of drawing time. If your busy schedule only permits 2 hours a day then make the most of it by pushing yourself outside your comfort zones. | 0 | 11,618 | 6.333333 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyirl3u | fyj7jvl | 1,595,124,755 | 1,595,136,216 | 12 | 17 | It certainly can be enough. But it will take a bit of discipline to practice effectively. It will be important to use that time to not only work on the basics, but also make time to try things that push your skill level so you don't end up spinning your wheels and seeing little or no progress. This is important whether your practicing 4 hours a week, or 24 hours. But the less time, the more care is needed to make sure your get a good mix of both in. | It's OK. Just know a few minutes everyday is better than hours on two or so days. | 0 | 11,461 | 1.416667 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyj7jvl | fyj25ds | 1,595,136,216 | 1,595,131,990 | 17 | 11 | It's OK. Just know a few minutes everyday is better than hours on two or so days. | You can also do a 10 minute a day doodle. It will at least keep your mind in the groove and your hand/wrist/arm will develop as well as your eye. Especially when you look forward to it all day and have something in mind | 1 | 4,226 | 1.545455 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyj7jvl | fyiavxv | 1,595,136,216 | 1,595,114,196 | 17 | 7 | It's OK. Just know a few minutes everyday is better than hours on two or so days. | I tried to draw every day when I started, and I mostly made a routine out of it, and I fell out of the rhythm but drew intensively for a few hours every few days, and that kind of still works for me. I stopped drawing when I don't feel like it and instead try to pump up myself what exciting things I'm going to draw next. | 1 | 22,020 | 2.428571 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyjw2gu | fyjt8qc | 1,595,160,968 | 1,595,158,299 | 17 | 15 | Logging hours will do nothing for you ... unless you full understand principles you will repeat errors in drawing until they become ingrained in your process. Don't just repeat exercises: understand the principles behind value and how to check yourself. Understand principles of proportion until they are automatic. Understand composition until it is intuitive. Understand perspective that comes readily to you. Study necessary principles before you draw them. Two hours spent on anatomy proportion will do you far more good than four hours drawing ill proportioned figures. | I don't think time is the most definitive factor. I drew countless hours and didn't learn anything and yet when I really try to understand something mindfully, I improve very very quickly. | 1 | 2,669 | 1.133333 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyirl3u | fyjw2gu | 1,595,124,755 | 1,595,160,968 | 12 | 17 | It certainly can be enough. But it will take a bit of discipline to practice effectively. It will be important to use that time to not only work on the basics, but also make time to try things that push your skill level so you don't end up spinning your wheels and seeing little or no progress. This is important whether your practicing 4 hours a week, or 24 hours. But the less time, the more care is needed to make sure your get a good mix of both in. | Logging hours will do nothing for you ... unless you full understand principles you will repeat errors in drawing until they become ingrained in your process. Don't just repeat exercises: understand the principles behind value and how to check yourself. Understand principles of proportion until they are automatic. Understand composition until it is intuitive. Understand perspective that comes readily to you. Study necessary principles before you draw them. Two hours spent on anatomy proportion will do you far more good than four hours drawing ill proportioned figures. | 0 | 36,213 | 1.416667 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyjw2gu | fyj25ds | 1,595,160,968 | 1,595,131,990 | 17 | 11 | Logging hours will do nothing for you ... unless you full understand principles you will repeat errors in drawing until they become ingrained in your process. Don't just repeat exercises: understand the principles behind value and how to check yourself. Understand principles of proportion until they are automatic. Understand composition until it is intuitive. Understand perspective that comes readily to you. Study necessary principles before you draw them. Two hours spent on anatomy proportion will do you far more good than four hours drawing ill proportioned figures. | You can also do a 10 minute a day doodle. It will at least keep your mind in the groove and your hand/wrist/arm will develop as well as your eye. Especially when you look forward to it all day and have something in mind | 1 | 28,978 | 1.545455 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyjw2gu | fyiavxv | 1,595,160,968 | 1,595,114,196 | 17 | 7 | Logging hours will do nothing for you ... unless you full understand principles you will repeat errors in drawing until they become ingrained in your process. Don't just repeat exercises: understand the principles behind value and how to check yourself. Understand principles of proportion until they are automatic. Understand composition until it is intuitive. Understand perspective that comes readily to you. Study necessary principles before you draw them. Two hours spent on anatomy proportion will do you far more good than four hours drawing ill proportioned figures. | I tried to draw every day when I started, and I mostly made a routine out of it, and I fell out of the rhythm but drew intensively for a few hours every few days, and that kind of still works for me. I stopped drawing when I don't feel like it and instead try to pump up myself what exciting things I'm going to draw next. | 1 | 46,772 | 2.428571 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyj7lah | fyjw2gu | 1,595,136,250 | 1,595,160,968 | 6 | 17 | Same here, not getting time to draw daily and it is so so frustating... But I guess we have to start taking out time for living and for creative people it is usually what they enjoy doing the most... until we strt having earning through artworks a norm, we will have to keep struggling to juggle between our jobs and our creative passions because the world decided it will work basis a printed piece of paper it calls currency! | Logging hours will do nothing for you ... unless you full understand principles you will repeat errors in drawing until they become ingrained in your process. Don't just repeat exercises: understand the principles behind value and how to check yourself. Understand principles of proportion until they are automatic. Understand composition until it is intuitive. Understand perspective that comes readily to you. Study necessary principles before you draw them. Two hours spent on anatomy proportion will do you far more good than four hours drawing ill proportioned figures. | 0 | 24,718 | 2.833333 | ||
htohep | artfundamentals_train | 0.96 | Is drawing 4 hours a week OK to improve? Since I have a busy schedule, I can only draw on the weekends. Sometimes I spend the whole day drawing as it's pretty relaxing. But I made it a habit to draw 2 hours at "least". I used to draw 1-2 hours everyday. So I'm scared if I fall behind. | fyjw2gu | fyjsot6 | 1,595,160,968 | 1,595,157,812 | 17 | 5 | Logging hours will do nothing for you ... unless you full understand principles you will repeat errors in drawing until they become ingrained in your process. Don't just repeat exercises: understand the principles behind value and how to check yourself. Understand principles of proportion until they are automatic. Understand composition until it is intuitive. Understand perspective that comes readily to you. Study necessary principles before you draw them. Two hours spent on anatomy proportion will do you far more good than four hours drawing ill proportioned figures. | It depends on what you want to achieve, if you want to grow your skill, sure, it can be "enough". If you want to become a professional and compete with other people, i don't think that's enough, not at all. There are people out there doing it for 10h/day for years and years, you will never be able to reach that level without praticing A LOT. There are not "gifted" people who can magically draw without the knowledge or pratice, that's sad but in the end it's the truth. | 1 | 3,156 | 3.4 |
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