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[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive." ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober." ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox." ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office." ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains" ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding." ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”" ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?" ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries." ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?" ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now." ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should." ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it." ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?" ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?", ">\n\nThat reminds me.\n\"Yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist?\"" ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?", ">\n\nThat reminds me.\n\"Yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist?\"", ">\n\n\"Free market!\"\n\"No not like that!\"" ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?", ">\n\nThat reminds me.\n\"Yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist?\"", ">\n\n\"Free market!\"\n\"No not like that!\"", ">\n\nBut who's gonna cover it? Newsmax?\nFOX and OANN won't, why give coverage about a rival network?" ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?", ">\n\nThat reminds me.\n\"Yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist?\"", ">\n\n\"Free market!\"\n\"No not like that!\"", ">\n\nBut who's gonna cover it? Newsmax?\nFOX and OANN won't, why give coverage about a rival network?", ">\n\nladies and gentlemen, SMALL gov't in action!" ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?", ">\n\nThat reminds me.\n\"Yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist?\"", ">\n\n\"Free market!\"\n\"No not like that!\"", ">\n\nBut who's gonna cover it? Newsmax?\nFOX and OANN won't, why give coverage about a rival network?", ">\n\nladies and gentlemen, SMALL gov't in action!", ">\n\nFucking dirtbag." ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?", ">\n\nThat reminds me.\n\"Yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist?\"", ">\n\n\"Free market!\"\n\"No not like that!\"", ">\n\nBut who's gonna cover it? Newsmax?\nFOX and OANN won't, why give coverage about a rival network?", ">\n\nladies and gentlemen, SMALL gov't in action!", ">\n\nFucking dirtbag.", ">\n\nLOL fucking morons." ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?", ">\n\nThat reminds me.\n\"Yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist?\"", ">\n\n\"Free market!\"\n\"No not like that!\"", ">\n\nBut who's gonna cover it? Newsmax?\nFOX and OANN won't, why give coverage about a rival network?", ">\n\nladies and gentlemen, SMALL gov't in action!", ">\n\nFucking dirtbag.", ">\n\nLOL fucking morons.", ">\n\nThe party of small government everyone!" ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?", ">\n\nThat reminds me.\n\"Yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist?\"", ">\n\n\"Free market!\"\n\"No not like that!\"", ">\n\nBut who's gonna cover it? Newsmax?\nFOX and OANN won't, why give coverage about a rival network?", ">\n\nladies and gentlemen, SMALL gov't in action!", ">\n\nFucking dirtbag.", ">\n\nLOL fucking morons.", ">\n\nThe party of small government everyone!", ">\n\n\"All culture war, all the time\"" ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?", ">\n\nThat reminds me.\n\"Yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist?\"", ">\n\n\"Free market!\"\n\"No not like that!\"", ">\n\nBut who's gonna cover it? Newsmax?\nFOX and OANN won't, why give coverage about a rival network?", ">\n\nladies and gentlemen, SMALL gov't in action!", ">\n\nFucking dirtbag.", ">\n\nLOL fucking morons.", ">\n\nThe party of small government everyone!", ">\n\n\"All culture war, all the time\"", ">\n\nSo it seems businesses need to consult with the GOP before making business decisions. The party of small government up in your nickers when it comes to what you and your doctor can chose for your health, who you love, what you can or can not say, what you can or can not read, what religion you practice, how you run your business. \nAnd these asshats call themselves pro-freedom??? give me a break." ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?", ">\n\nThat reminds me.\n\"Yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist?\"", ">\n\n\"Free market!\"\n\"No not like that!\"", ">\n\nBut who's gonna cover it? Newsmax?\nFOX and OANN won't, why give coverage about a rival network?", ">\n\nladies and gentlemen, SMALL gov't in action!", ">\n\nFucking dirtbag.", ">\n\nLOL fucking morons.", ">\n\nThe party of small government everyone!", ">\n\n\"All culture war, all the time\"", ">\n\nSo it seems businesses need to consult with the GOP before making business decisions. The party of small government up in your nickers when it comes to what you and your doctor can chose for your health, who you love, what you can or can not say, what you can or can not read, what religion you practice, how you run your business. \nAnd these asshats call themselves pro-freedom??? give me a break.", ">\n\nGOP: private companies should be able to operate as they please.\nAlso GOP: No, not like that!" ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?", ">\n\nThat reminds me.\n\"Yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist?\"", ">\n\n\"Free market!\"\n\"No not like that!\"", ">\n\nBut who's gonna cover it? Newsmax?\nFOX and OANN won't, why give coverage about a rival network?", ">\n\nladies and gentlemen, SMALL gov't in action!", ">\n\nFucking dirtbag.", ">\n\nLOL fucking morons.", ">\n\nThe party of small government everyone!", ">\n\n\"All culture war, all the time\"", ">\n\nSo it seems businesses need to consult with the GOP before making business decisions. The party of small government up in your nickers when it comes to what you and your doctor can chose for your health, who you love, what you can or can not say, what you can or can not read, what religion you practice, how you run your business. \nAnd these asshats call themselves pro-freedom??? give me a break.", ">\n\nGOP: private companies should be able to operate as they please.\nAlso GOP: No, not like that!", ">\n\nOh Jesus Christ. They are a PRIVATE company." ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?", ">\n\nThat reminds me.\n\"Yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist?\"", ">\n\n\"Free market!\"\n\"No not like that!\"", ">\n\nBut who's gonna cover it? Newsmax?\nFOX and OANN won't, why give coverage about a rival network?", ">\n\nladies and gentlemen, SMALL gov't in action!", ">\n\nFucking dirtbag.", ">\n\nLOL fucking morons.", ">\n\nThe party of small government everyone!", ">\n\n\"All culture war, all the time\"", ">\n\nSo it seems businesses need to consult with the GOP before making business decisions. The party of small government up in your nickers when it comes to what you and your doctor can chose for your health, who you love, what you can or can not say, what you can or can not read, what religion you practice, how you run your business. \nAnd these asshats call themselves pro-freedom??? give me a break.", ">\n\nGOP: private companies should be able to operate as they please.\nAlso GOP: No, not like that!", ">\n\nOh Jesus Christ. They are a PRIVATE company.", ">\n\nUh oh. So the free market is only ok when it’s rigged? Got it." ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?", ">\n\nThat reminds me.\n\"Yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist?\"", ">\n\n\"Free market!\"\n\"No not like that!\"", ">\n\nBut who's gonna cover it? Newsmax?\nFOX and OANN won't, why give coverage about a rival network?", ">\n\nladies and gentlemen, SMALL gov't in action!", ">\n\nFucking dirtbag.", ">\n\nLOL fucking morons.", ">\n\nThe party of small government everyone!", ">\n\n\"All culture war, all the time\"", ">\n\nSo it seems businesses need to consult with the GOP before making business decisions. The party of small government up in your nickers when it comes to what you and your doctor can chose for your health, who you love, what you can or can not say, what you can or can not read, what religion you practice, how you run your business. \nAnd these asshats call themselves pro-freedom??? give me a break.", ">\n\nGOP: private companies should be able to operate as they please.\nAlso GOP: No, not like that!", ">\n\nOh Jesus Christ. They are a PRIVATE company.", ">\n\nUh oh. So the free market is only ok when it’s rigged? Got it.", ">\n\nWhen your only governing philosophy is whining and claiming victimhood about...almost everything, you need all the sympathetic propaganda media outlets you can get." ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?", ">\n\nThat reminds me.\n\"Yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist?\"", ">\n\n\"Free market!\"\n\"No not like that!\"", ">\n\nBut who's gonna cover it? Newsmax?\nFOX and OANN won't, why give coverage about a rival network?", ">\n\nladies and gentlemen, SMALL gov't in action!", ">\n\nFucking dirtbag.", ">\n\nLOL fucking morons.", ">\n\nThe party of small government everyone!", ">\n\n\"All culture war, all the time\"", ">\n\nSo it seems businesses need to consult with the GOP before making business decisions. The party of small government up in your nickers when it comes to what you and your doctor can chose for your health, who you love, what you can or can not say, what you can or can not read, what religion you practice, how you run your business. \nAnd these asshats call themselves pro-freedom??? give me a break.", ">\n\nGOP: private companies should be able to operate as they please.\nAlso GOP: No, not like that!", ">\n\nOh Jesus Christ. They are a PRIVATE company.", ">\n\nUh oh. So the free market is only ok when it’s rigged? Got it.", ">\n\nWhen your only governing philosophy is whining and claiming victimhood about...almost everything, you need all the sympathetic propaganda media outlets you can get.", ">\n\nCan’t stop the bullshit from the churches, can’t stop the bullshit from the church-owned media, can’t stop the bullshit from Talk Radio, can’t stop the bullshit from FOX, but one fringe cable channel less is a threat to the right’s alternate reality?" ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?", ">\n\nThat reminds me.\n\"Yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist?\"", ">\n\n\"Free market!\"\n\"No not like that!\"", ">\n\nBut who's gonna cover it? Newsmax?\nFOX and OANN won't, why give coverage about a rival network?", ">\n\nladies and gentlemen, SMALL gov't in action!", ">\n\nFucking dirtbag.", ">\n\nLOL fucking morons.", ">\n\nThe party of small government everyone!", ">\n\n\"All culture war, all the time\"", ">\n\nSo it seems businesses need to consult with the GOP before making business decisions. The party of small government up in your nickers when it comes to what you and your doctor can chose for your health, who you love, what you can or can not say, what you can or can not read, what religion you practice, how you run your business. \nAnd these asshats call themselves pro-freedom??? give me a break.", ">\n\nGOP: private companies should be able to operate as they please.\nAlso GOP: No, not like that!", ">\n\nOh Jesus Christ. They are a PRIVATE company.", ">\n\nUh oh. So the free market is only ok when it’s rigged? Got it.", ">\n\nWhen your only governing philosophy is whining and claiming victimhood about...almost everything, you need all the sympathetic propaganda media outlets you can get.", ">\n\nCan’t stop the bullshit from the churches, can’t stop the bullshit from the church-owned media, can’t stop the bullshit from Talk Radio, can’t stop the bullshit from FOX, but one fringe cable channel less is a threat to the right’s alternate reality?", ">\n\nNow do something about YouTube TV dropping mlb network. That is a much bigger deal~." ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?", ">\n\nThat reminds me.\n\"Yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist?\"", ">\n\n\"Free market!\"\n\"No not like that!\"", ">\n\nBut who's gonna cover it? Newsmax?\nFOX and OANN won't, why give coverage about a rival network?", ">\n\nladies and gentlemen, SMALL gov't in action!", ">\n\nFucking dirtbag.", ">\n\nLOL fucking morons.", ">\n\nThe party of small government everyone!", ">\n\n\"All culture war, all the time\"", ">\n\nSo it seems businesses need to consult with the GOP before making business decisions. The party of small government up in your nickers when it comes to what you and your doctor can chose for your health, who you love, what you can or can not say, what you can or can not read, what religion you practice, how you run your business. \nAnd these asshats call themselves pro-freedom??? give me a break.", ">\n\nGOP: private companies should be able to operate as they please.\nAlso GOP: No, not like that!", ">\n\nOh Jesus Christ. They are a PRIVATE company.", ">\n\nUh oh. So the free market is only ok when it’s rigged? Got it.", ">\n\nWhen your only governing philosophy is whining and claiming victimhood about...almost everything, you need all the sympathetic propaganda media outlets you can get.", ">\n\nCan’t stop the bullshit from the churches, can’t stop the bullshit from the church-owned media, can’t stop the bullshit from Talk Radio, can’t stop the bullshit from FOX, but one fringe cable channel less is a threat to the right’s alternate reality?", ">\n\nNow do something about YouTube TV dropping mlb network. That is a much bigger deal~.", ">\n\nGood to see the Republicans addressing the real issues affecting Americans." ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?", ">\n\nThat reminds me.\n\"Yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist?\"", ">\n\n\"Free market!\"\n\"No not like that!\"", ">\n\nBut who's gonna cover it? Newsmax?\nFOX and OANN won't, why give coverage about a rival network?", ">\n\nladies and gentlemen, SMALL gov't in action!", ">\n\nFucking dirtbag.", ">\n\nLOL fucking morons.", ">\n\nThe party of small government everyone!", ">\n\n\"All culture war, all the time\"", ">\n\nSo it seems businesses need to consult with the GOP before making business decisions. The party of small government up in your nickers when it comes to what you and your doctor can chose for your health, who you love, what you can or can not say, what you can or can not read, what religion you practice, how you run your business. \nAnd these asshats call themselves pro-freedom??? give me a break.", ">\n\nGOP: private companies should be able to operate as they please.\nAlso GOP: No, not like that!", ">\n\nOh Jesus Christ. They are a PRIVATE company.", ">\n\nUh oh. So the free market is only ok when it’s rigged? Got it.", ">\n\nWhen your only governing philosophy is whining and claiming victimhood about...almost everything, you need all the sympathetic propaganda media outlets you can get.", ">\n\nCan’t stop the bullshit from the churches, can’t stop the bullshit from the church-owned media, can’t stop the bullshit from Talk Radio, can’t stop the bullshit from FOX, but one fringe cable channel less is a threat to the right’s alternate reality?", ">\n\nNow do something about YouTube TV dropping mlb network. That is a much bigger deal~.", ">\n\nGood to see the Republicans addressing the real issues affecting Americans.", ">\n\nLeT tHe MaRkEt DeCiDe" ]

[ "Wouldn’t this be, oh…\nThe government interfering with free enterprise? Like….\nCOMMUNISM?", ">\n\nNot when GQP does it. Then it's patriotism.", ">\n\nIf you enter Patriot at the end, you can save 30% on your next pillow purchase.", ">\n\n“People aren’t just going to be allowed to choose who to do business with under our government” -Kevin McCarthy", ">\n\nSounds like wedding cakes for everyone are back on the menu folks!", ">\n\nOh no, it looks like McCarthy intends to put the government in the role of regulating who must say what. I seem to recall some rule or other about that.\n\n. . . I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.\n\nAnd McCarthy intends to decide just what news that is.", ">\n\n“You can have any type of news you want, as long as you choose propaganda”", ">\n\nNewsmax raised its price beyond what directtv was willing to pay. Maybe newsmax should lower it's price to what the market will bear?", ">\n\nIf I was a provider, Even if they paid me it wouldn't be worth it to carry them", ">\n\nAnyone calling up to complain about Newsmax being gone was probably already in the system for being an asshole customer.", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenents (abortion) and demands some religious tenents be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).\n(edited for spelling)", ">\n\nSounds like the Chinese Government. The GOP would do well to remember that pissing off the business class will not end well for them", ">\n\nLet them eat face", ">\n\nMcCarthy apparently doesn’t understand there is more truth value on the Bigfoot channels.", ">\n\nWhat happened to let the free market decide? GOP is a dumpster fire.", ">\n\nWhy would the government interfere in private business? It doesn’t make sense and that’s the point!\nThe GOP had no platform in 2020 or 2022, the grievance politics, and clown show is on the docket. These little theatrics are to give the illusion of governance without doing anything.\nIf the past is prologue what we’re seeing is this lot attempting to create sound bites, and clips they can parade around their “news” outlets and social.\nDirectTV customers like the American people are tired of the clown show and false narratives. They dropped NewsMax, its their platform and their right.\nBut it’s a grievance so it’s on the menu.", ">\n\nMy understanding is it didn’t have anything to do with the content of newsmax and was just that while directv didn’t have to pay for newsmax it was worth it but it didn’t have enough demand to justify paying newsmax to continue to carry it. Strictly business decision.", ">\n\nBunch of whiney babies.", ">\n\nThat’s what we call forced speech.", ">\n\nHe can have his worthless hearings, nobody gives a shit.", ">\n\nI can't wait for DTV to break out the white board, Katie Porter style.", ">\n\nHa ha, what a fuc&ing clown. This isn’t China dude.", ">\n\nCarriers should be mandated to pay for the privilege of carrying propaganda.", ">\n\nSmall government, okay!\nFree speech, doesn't equal anyone wanting to listen.", ">\n\nThey want government small enough to fit in your bedroom.", ">\n\nThey want a monarchy, the smallest of governments.", ">\n\nWhy do they hate capitalism?", ">\n\nSo let me get this right. Republicans believe a private enterprise should be able to refuse service (cake shop), but not refuse service (Newsmax) and demands no restrictions on media (Trump Twitter) and demands restrictions on media (Louisiana porn id requirement), demands everyone respect their religious tenants (abortion) and demands some religious tenants be forbidden (satanic church abortion ritual).", ">\n\nIn a nutshell, yes. The hypocrisy is baked in.", ">\n\nWhy do republicans hate the free market!?", ">\n\nThat's a bold strategy", ">\n\n\"But muh free market\" or something.", ">\n\nSmall chance he actually does it. He's just keeping the furor alive.", ">\n\nIt's not the right time to be sober.", ">\n\nMaybe the groundswell of people trying to get rid of Fox is becoming worrisome to Fox. There are people wanting to drop out of paying for Fox on cable/dish because they don't watch it. The App popularity means a lot of people are doing Hulu, Sling, Paramount, etc. and simply not paying any money to Fox.", ">\n\nMcCarthy is not in a position to rule anything out right now because he has painted himself into a corner.\nHe knows his caucus will not be able to agree on a budget that will ever pass.\nHe also knows that if he makes a deal with the White House and agrees to a budget that Democrats will vote for, his caucus will recall him and he'll lose his nice office.", ">\n\nRepublicans have feces for brains", ">\n\nIrony is dead. \nWho wants to tell him? Spoiler, it doesn’t matter because he is quite literally not capable of understanding.", ">\n\n\n“You know I had discussions with a couple members now because it’s very concerning to me,” McCarthy said during a press conference at the Capitol on Thursday. “Now, Newsmax isn’t the first one, OAN [One America News] as well. And I think Americans should be able to have a choice in the news they are able to get.”\nMcCarthy added that he would “hate to see somebody being kicked off simply because they provide something conservative, so I think it is a place that we should look at.”", ">\n\nJeez, we can't have a private company make its own decisions on what services it wants to offer, can we?", ">\n\nI love how they want to do the things they condemn in \"communist\" countries.", ">\n\nSo, he wants government to pick winners and losers?", ">\n\nMan, this guy really wants to use his political capital for something we already know is a snipe hunt? Newsmax wanted to charge more for their content. DirecTV said nah, we will just not do business anymore. Congrats America, this is apparently what Republicans think the common man/woman wants right now. You'd think there were no large problems for the average American right now.", ">\n\nI thought it was DirectTV gave them a deal like they do many starting stations. Now that they are established DirectTV wanted to be paid, like they should.", ">\n\nThey should be paid if there is incentive to continue carrying the channel. DirecTV has chosen not to continue. If you want to call that censorship you can. Others may see it as the market not being there for it. If there is, people will seek and find it.", ">\n\nWhy do Republicans hate capitalism?", ">\n\nThat reminds me.\n\"Yes or no, are you a capitalist or a socialist?\"", ">\n\n\"Free market!\"\n\"No not like that!\"", ">\n\nBut who's gonna cover it? Newsmax?\nFOX and OANN won't, why give coverage about a rival network?", ">\n\nladies and gentlemen, SMALL gov't in action!", ">\n\nFucking dirtbag.", ">\n\nLOL fucking morons.", ">\n\nThe party of small government everyone!", ">\n\n\"All culture war, all the time\"", ">\n\nSo it seems businesses need to consult with the GOP before making business decisions. The party of small government up in your nickers when it comes to what you and your doctor can chose for your health, who you love, what you can or can not say, what you can or can not read, what religion you practice, how you run your business. \nAnd these asshats call themselves pro-freedom??? give me a break.", ">\n\nGOP: private companies should be able to operate as they please.\nAlso GOP: No, not like that!", ">\n\nOh Jesus Christ. They are a PRIVATE company.", ">\n\nUh oh. So the free market is only ok when it’s rigged? Got it.", ">\n\nWhen your only governing philosophy is whining and claiming victimhood about...almost everything, you need all the sympathetic propaganda media outlets you can get.", ">\n\nCan’t stop the bullshit from the churches, can’t stop the bullshit from the church-owned media, can’t stop the bullshit from Talk Radio, can’t stop the bullshit from FOX, but one fringe cable channel less is a threat to the right’s alternate reality?", ">\n\nNow do something about YouTube TV dropping mlb network. That is a much bigger deal~.", ">\n\nGood to see the Republicans addressing the real issues affecting Americans.", ">\n\nLeT tHe MaRkEt DeCiDe", ">\n\nCan’t believe how much money they squander on absolute bullshit. Hopefully someone is keeping track?" ]

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[ "I always assumed tips were split with everyone. Servers have like the easiest job at the restaurant. I want my tip to go to the bus boy and chef" ]

[ "I always assumed tips were split with everyone. Servers have like the easiest job at the restaurant. I want my tip to go to the bus boy and chef", ">\n\nBasically, everyone should be paid around 3-4 times what they make." ]

[ "I always assumed tips were split with everyone. Servers have like the easiest job at the restaurant. I want my tip to go to the bus boy and chef", ">\n\nBasically, everyone should be paid around 3-4 times what they make.", ">\n\nYou would gain nothing. If businesses had to pay that much more in wages they would have to jack up their prices accordingly and you wouldn't be able to afford it anyway. Plus the fact that you would jump into a higher tax bracket." ]

[ "I always assumed tips were split with everyone. Servers have like the easiest job at the restaurant. I want my tip to go to the bus boy and chef", ">\n\nBasically, everyone should be paid around 3-4 times what they make.", ">\n\nYou would gain nothing. If businesses had to pay that much more in wages they would have to jack up their prices accordingly and you wouldn't be able to afford it anyway. Plus the fact that you would jump into a higher tax bracket.", ">\n\nObviously, we live in a system controlled by business owners.\nSocialism is the way" ]

[ "I always assumed tips were split with everyone. Servers have like the easiest job at the restaurant. I want my tip to go to the bus boy and chef", ">\n\nBasically, everyone should be paid around 3-4 times what they make.", ">\n\nYou would gain nothing. If businesses had to pay that much more in wages they would have to jack up their prices accordingly and you wouldn't be able to afford it anyway. Plus the fact that you would jump into a higher tax bracket.", ">\n\nObviously, we live in a system controlled by business owners.\nSocialism is the way", ">\n\nIf you are anti tip, you are anti worker. It is one the few times in capitalism you are able to directly compensate someone for their labor without having a middleman/owner take a share. If anything, socialists should support tip sharing across the entire restaurant, so that workers can have more ownership in the restaurant." ]

[ "I always assumed tips were split with everyone. Servers have like the easiest job at the restaurant. I want my tip to go to the bus boy and chef", ">\n\nBasically, everyone should be paid around 3-4 times what they make.", ">\n\nYou would gain nothing. If businesses had to pay that much more in wages they would have to jack up their prices accordingly and you wouldn't be able to afford it anyway. Plus the fact that you would jump into a higher tax bracket.", ">\n\nObviously, we live in a system controlled by business owners.\nSocialism is the way", ">\n\nIf you are anti tip, you are anti worker. It is one the few times in capitalism you are able to directly compensate someone for their labor without having a middleman/owner take a share. If anything, socialists should support tip sharing across the entire restaurant, so that workers can have more ownership in the restaurant.", ">\n\nThat is far too small an impact for most socialists to bother, it is a bandaid solution that is inferior to, for example, mutual aid funds" ]

[ "I always assumed tips were split with everyone. Servers have like the easiest job at the restaurant. I want my tip to go to the bus boy and chef", ">\n\nBasically, everyone should be paid around 3-4 times what they make.", ">\n\nYou would gain nothing. If businesses had to pay that much more in wages they would have to jack up their prices accordingly and you wouldn't be able to afford it anyway. Plus the fact that you would jump into a higher tax bracket.", ">\n\nObviously, we live in a system controlled by business owners.\nSocialism is the way", ">\n\nIf you are anti tip, you are anti worker. It is one the few times in capitalism you are able to directly compensate someone for their labor without having a middleman/owner take a share. If anything, socialists should support tip sharing across the entire restaurant, so that workers can have more ownership in the restaurant.", ">\n\nThat is far too small an impact for most socialists to bother, it is a bandaid solution that is inferior to, for example, mutual aid funds", ">\n\nthey don't make enough money to pay rent, buy a house, or save for retirement. so how is that \"enough money\"?\nand i hate this argument that \"someone earns less than you, so you should earn less, too\". that's a really fucked up perspective. everyone should earn more money." ]

[ "I always assumed tips were split with everyone. Servers have like the easiest job at the restaurant. I want my tip to go to the bus boy and chef", ">\n\nBasically, everyone should be paid around 3-4 times what they make.", ">\n\nYou would gain nothing. If businesses had to pay that much more in wages they would have to jack up their prices accordingly and you wouldn't be able to afford it anyway. Plus the fact that you would jump into a higher tax bracket.", ">\n\nObviously, we live in a system controlled by business owners.\nSocialism is the way", ">\n\nIf you are anti tip, you are anti worker. It is one the few times in capitalism you are able to directly compensate someone for their labor without having a middleman/owner take a share. If anything, socialists should support tip sharing across the entire restaurant, so that workers can have more ownership in the restaurant.", ">\n\nThat is far too small an impact for most socialists to bother, it is a bandaid solution that is inferior to, for example, mutual aid funds", ">\n\nthey don't make enough money to pay rent, buy a house, or save for retirement. so how is that \"enough money\"?\nand i hate this argument that \"someone earns less than you, so you should earn less, too\". that's a really fucked up perspective. everyone should earn more money.", ">\n\nHousing costs have skyrocketed, that is true. But that’s mostly a housing problem not a wage problem. I’ve worked with plenty of servers who make enough to support two kids and a working class lifestyle in the suburbs. City life is just plain unaffordable" ]

[ "I always assumed tips were split with everyone. Servers have like the easiest job at the restaurant. I want my tip to go to the bus boy and chef", ">\n\nBasically, everyone should be paid around 3-4 times what they make.", ">\n\nYou would gain nothing. If businesses had to pay that much more in wages they would have to jack up their prices accordingly and you wouldn't be able to afford it anyway. Plus the fact that you would jump into a higher tax bracket.", ">\n\nObviously, we live in a system controlled by business owners.\nSocialism is the way", ">\n\nIf you are anti tip, you are anti worker. It is one the few times in capitalism you are able to directly compensate someone for their labor without having a middleman/owner take a share. If anything, socialists should support tip sharing across the entire restaurant, so that workers can have more ownership in the restaurant.", ">\n\nThat is far too small an impact for most socialists to bother, it is a bandaid solution that is inferior to, for example, mutual aid funds", ">\n\nthey don't make enough money to pay rent, buy a house, or save for retirement. so how is that \"enough money\"?\nand i hate this argument that \"someone earns less than you, so you should earn less, too\". that's a really fucked up perspective. everyone should earn more money.", ">\n\nHousing costs have skyrocketed, that is true. But that’s mostly a housing problem not a wage problem. I’ve worked with plenty of servers who make enough to support two kids and a working class lifestyle in the suburbs. City life is just plain unaffordable", ">\n\nSales will always make more than production in nearly every profession you will encounter. Welcome to life." ]

[ "I always assumed tips were split with everyone. Servers have like the easiest job at the restaurant. I want my tip to go to the bus boy and chef", ">\n\nBasically, everyone should be paid around 3-4 times what they make.", ">\n\nYou would gain nothing. If businesses had to pay that much more in wages they would have to jack up their prices accordingly and you wouldn't be able to afford it anyway. Plus the fact that you would jump into a higher tax bracket.", ">\n\nObviously, we live in a system controlled by business owners.\nSocialism is the way", ">\n\nIf you are anti tip, you are anti worker. It is one the few times in capitalism you are able to directly compensate someone for their labor without having a middleman/owner take a share. If anything, socialists should support tip sharing across the entire restaurant, so that workers can have more ownership in the restaurant.", ">\n\nThat is far too small an impact for most socialists to bother, it is a bandaid solution that is inferior to, for example, mutual aid funds", ">\n\nthey don't make enough money to pay rent, buy a house, or save for retirement. so how is that \"enough money\"?\nand i hate this argument that \"someone earns less than you, so you should earn less, too\". that's a really fucked up perspective. everyone should earn more money.", ">\n\nHousing costs have skyrocketed, that is true. But that’s mostly a housing problem not a wage problem. I’ve worked with plenty of servers who make enough to support two kids and a working class lifestyle in the suburbs. City life is just plain unaffordable", ">\n\nSales will always make more than production in nearly every profession you will encounter. Welcome to life.", ">\n\nThere’s a reason they are the first ones to fight against getting rid of tipping." ]

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[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\"." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military)." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch.." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\"." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\".", ">\n\nOh and it has been proven they are controlling it and its moving east now." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\".", ">\n\nOh and it has been proven they are controlling it and its moving east now.", ">\n\nOk 3 things\n1) if it is for weather purposes why would it be in a country other than your own\n2) as a weather device you would assume it had a GPS to verify location and weather data to help with whatever bs study they claim\n3) if it was lost why didn’t they say anything or do anything in the thousands of miles it to reach the US coastline. \nThis is obviously not a weather ballon and it’s a stupid excuse to use when you get caught." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\".", ">\n\nOh and it has been proven they are controlling it and its moving east now.", ">\n\nOk 3 things\n1) if it is for weather purposes why would it be in a country other than your own\n2) as a weather device you would assume it had a GPS to verify location and weather data to help with whatever bs study they claim\n3) if it was lost why didn’t they say anything or do anything in the thousands of miles it to reach the US coastline. \nThis is obviously not a weather ballon and it’s a stupid excuse to use when you get caught.", ">\n\n\n\nUnderstanding the weather of your adversaries allows you to make better guesses as to things like crop yields. This could allow you to put compete them in the global markets. \n\n\nUh sure?\n\n\nWhy bother? They don't care about our well-being. \n\n\nIt's probably sensing a whole lot more than the weather, so I think this is a \"half\" lie by them. \n\"Sure it's a weather balloon. Also 10 other things but yeah, weather.\"" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\".", ">\n\nOh and it has been proven they are controlling it and its moving east now.", ">\n\nOk 3 things\n1) if it is for weather purposes why would it be in a country other than your own\n2) as a weather device you would assume it had a GPS to verify location and weather data to help with whatever bs study they claim\n3) if it was lost why didn’t they say anything or do anything in the thousands of miles it to reach the US coastline. \nThis is obviously not a weather ballon and it’s a stupid excuse to use when you get caught.", ">\n\n\n\nUnderstanding the weather of your adversaries allows you to make better guesses as to things like crop yields. This could allow you to put compete them in the global markets. \n\n\nUh sure?\n\n\nWhy bother? They don't care about our well-being. \n\n\nIt's probably sensing a whole lot more than the weather, so I think this is a \"half\" lie by them. \n\"Sure it's a weather balloon. Also 10 other things but yeah, weather.\"", ">\n\nMy point is that there lie makes no sense at all. It’s a half assed lie, just like every other lie the Chinese make." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\".", ">\n\nOh and it has been proven they are controlling it and its moving east now.", ">\n\nOk 3 things\n1) if it is for weather purposes why would it be in a country other than your own\n2) as a weather device you would assume it had a GPS to verify location and weather data to help with whatever bs study they claim\n3) if it was lost why didn’t they say anything or do anything in the thousands of miles it to reach the US coastline. \nThis is obviously not a weather ballon and it’s a stupid excuse to use when you get caught.", ">\n\n\n\nUnderstanding the weather of your adversaries allows you to make better guesses as to things like crop yields. This could allow you to put compete them in the global markets. \n\n\nUh sure?\n\n\nWhy bother? They don't care about our well-being. \n\n\nIt's probably sensing a whole lot more than the weather, so I think this is a \"half\" lie by them. \n\"Sure it's a weather balloon. Also 10 other things but yeah, weather.\"", ">\n\nMy point is that there lie makes no sense at all. It’s a half assed lie, just like every other lie the Chinese make.", ">\n\nIt makes a lot of sense if you understand that China is a dictatorship." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\".", ">\n\nOh and it has been proven they are controlling it and its moving east now.", ">\n\nOk 3 things\n1) if it is for weather purposes why would it be in a country other than your own\n2) as a weather device you would assume it had a GPS to verify location and weather data to help with whatever bs study they claim\n3) if it was lost why didn’t they say anything or do anything in the thousands of miles it to reach the US coastline. \nThis is obviously not a weather ballon and it’s a stupid excuse to use when you get caught.", ">\n\n\n\nUnderstanding the weather of your adversaries allows you to make better guesses as to things like crop yields. This could allow you to put compete them in the global markets. \n\n\nUh sure?\n\n\nWhy bother? They don't care about our well-being. \n\n\nIt's probably sensing a whole lot more than the weather, so I think this is a \"half\" lie by them. \n\"Sure it's a weather balloon. Also 10 other things but yeah, weather.\"", ">\n\nMy point is that there lie makes no sense at all. It’s a half assed lie, just like every other lie the Chinese make.", ">\n\nIt makes a lot of sense if you understand that China is a dictatorship.", ">\n\nWhy was it flying over a Montana missle base?" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\".", ">\n\nOh and it has been proven they are controlling it and its moving east now.", ">\n\nOk 3 things\n1) if it is for weather purposes why would it be in a country other than your own\n2) as a weather device you would assume it had a GPS to verify location and weather data to help with whatever bs study they claim\n3) if it was lost why didn’t they say anything or do anything in the thousands of miles it to reach the US coastline. \nThis is obviously not a weather ballon and it’s a stupid excuse to use when you get caught.", ">\n\n\n\nUnderstanding the weather of your adversaries allows you to make better guesses as to things like crop yields. This could allow you to put compete them in the global markets. \n\n\nUh sure?\n\n\nWhy bother? They don't care about our well-being. \n\n\nIt's probably sensing a whole lot more than the weather, so I think this is a \"half\" lie by them. \n\"Sure it's a weather balloon. Also 10 other things but yeah, weather.\"", ">\n\nMy point is that there lie makes no sense at all. It’s a half assed lie, just like every other lie the Chinese make.", ">\n\nIt makes a lot of sense if you understand that China is a dictatorship.", ">\n\nWhy was it flying over a Montana missle base?", ">\n\nJust shoot it down already. It has no business being up there. If it was purely for scientific research they could have just asked." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\".", ">\n\nOh and it has been proven they are controlling it and its moving east now.", ">\n\nOk 3 things\n1) if it is for weather purposes why would it be in a country other than your own\n2) as a weather device you would assume it had a GPS to verify location and weather data to help with whatever bs study they claim\n3) if it was lost why didn’t they say anything or do anything in the thousands of miles it to reach the US coastline. \nThis is obviously not a weather ballon and it’s a stupid excuse to use when you get caught.", ">\n\n\n\nUnderstanding the weather of your adversaries allows you to make better guesses as to things like crop yields. This could allow you to put compete them in the global markets. \n\n\nUh sure?\n\n\nWhy bother? They don't care about our well-being. \n\n\nIt's probably sensing a whole lot more than the weather, so I think this is a \"half\" lie by them. \n\"Sure it's a weather balloon. Also 10 other things but yeah, weather.\"", ">\n\nMy point is that there lie makes no sense at all. It’s a half assed lie, just like every other lie the Chinese make.", ">\n\nIt makes a lot of sense if you understand that China is a dictatorship.", ">\n\nWhy was it flying over a Montana missle base?", ">\n\nJust shoot it down already. It has no business being up there. If it was purely for scientific research they could have just asked.", ">\n\nriiiiight... and those islands you built in the South China Sea weren't for military uses..." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\".", ">\n\nOh and it has been proven they are controlling it and its moving east now.", ">\n\nOk 3 things\n1) if it is for weather purposes why would it be in a country other than your own\n2) as a weather device you would assume it had a GPS to verify location and weather data to help with whatever bs study they claim\n3) if it was lost why didn’t they say anything or do anything in the thousands of miles it to reach the US coastline. \nThis is obviously not a weather ballon and it’s a stupid excuse to use when you get caught.", ">\n\n\n\nUnderstanding the weather of your adversaries allows you to make better guesses as to things like crop yields. This could allow you to put compete them in the global markets. \n\n\nUh sure?\n\n\nWhy bother? They don't care about our well-being. \n\n\nIt's probably sensing a whole lot more than the weather, so I think this is a \"half\" lie by them. \n\"Sure it's a weather balloon. Also 10 other things but yeah, weather.\"", ">\n\nMy point is that there lie makes no sense at all. It’s a half assed lie, just like every other lie the Chinese make.", ">\n\nIt makes a lot of sense if you understand that China is a dictatorship.", ">\n\nWhy was it flying over a Montana missle base?", ">\n\nJust shoot it down already. It has no business being up there. If it was purely for scientific research they could have just asked.", ">\n\nriiiiight... and those islands you built in the South China Sea weren't for military uses...", ">\n\nYet if it was a US baloon over China they'd be screaming bloody murder well into 2057." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\".", ">\n\nOh and it has been proven they are controlling it and its moving east now.", ">\n\nOk 3 things\n1) if it is for weather purposes why would it be in a country other than your own\n2) as a weather device you would assume it had a GPS to verify location and weather data to help with whatever bs study they claim\n3) if it was lost why didn’t they say anything or do anything in the thousands of miles it to reach the US coastline. \nThis is obviously not a weather ballon and it’s a stupid excuse to use when you get caught.", ">\n\n\n\nUnderstanding the weather of your adversaries allows you to make better guesses as to things like crop yields. This could allow you to put compete them in the global markets. \n\n\nUh sure?\n\n\nWhy bother? They don't care about our well-being. \n\n\nIt's probably sensing a whole lot more than the weather, so I think this is a \"half\" lie by them. \n\"Sure it's a weather balloon. Also 10 other things but yeah, weather.\"", ">\n\nMy point is that there lie makes no sense at all. It’s a half assed lie, just like every other lie the Chinese make.", ">\n\nIt makes a lot of sense if you understand that China is a dictatorship.", ">\n\nWhy was it flying over a Montana missle base?", ">\n\nJust shoot it down already. It has no business being up there. If it was purely for scientific research they could have just asked.", ">\n\nriiiiight... and those islands you built in the South China Sea weren't for military uses...", ">\n\nYet if it was a US baloon over China they'd be screaming bloody murder well into 2057.", ">\n\nIf it was a balloon over China they would have televised shooting it down without a second's hesitation." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\".", ">\n\nOh and it has been proven they are controlling it and its moving east now.", ">\n\nOk 3 things\n1) if it is for weather purposes why would it be in a country other than your own\n2) as a weather device you would assume it had a GPS to verify location and weather data to help with whatever bs study they claim\n3) if it was lost why didn’t they say anything or do anything in the thousands of miles it to reach the US coastline. \nThis is obviously not a weather ballon and it’s a stupid excuse to use when you get caught.", ">\n\n\n\nUnderstanding the weather of your adversaries allows you to make better guesses as to things like crop yields. This could allow you to put compete them in the global markets. \n\n\nUh sure?\n\n\nWhy bother? They don't care about our well-being. \n\n\nIt's probably sensing a whole lot more than the weather, so I think this is a \"half\" lie by them. \n\"Sure it's a weather balloon. Also 10 other things but yeah, weather.\"", ">\n\nMy point is that there lie makes no sense at all. It’s a half assed lie, just like every other lie the Chinese make.", ">\n\nIt makes a lot of sense if you understand that China is a dictatorship.", ">\n\nWhy was it flying over a Montana missle base?", ">\n\nJust shoot it down already. It has no business being up there. If it was purely for scientific research they could have just asked.", ">\n\nriiiiight... and those islands you built in the South China Sea weren't for military uses...", ">\n\nYet if it was a US baloon over China they'd be screaming bloody murder well into 2057.", ">\n\nIf it was a balloon over China they would have televised shooting it down without a second's hesitation.", ">\n\nDisregarding anyone below it too." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\".", ">\n\nOh and it has been proven they are controlling it and its moving east now.", ">\n\nOk 3 things\n1) if it is for weather purposes why would it be in a country other than your own\n2) as a weather device you would assume it had a GPS to verify location and weather data to help with whatever bs study they claim\n3) if it was lost why didn’t they say anything or do anything in the thousands of miles it to reach the US coastline. \nThis is obviously not a weather ballon and it’s a stupid excuse to use when you get caught.", ">\n\n\n\nUnderstanding the weather of your adversaries allows you to make better guesses as to things like crop yields. This could allow you to put compete them in the global markets. \n\n\nUh sure?\n\n\nWhy bother? They don't care about our well-being. \n\n\nIt's probably sensing a whole lot more than the weather, so I think this is a \"half\" lie by them. \n\"Sure it's a weather balloon. Also 10 other things but yeah, weather.\"", ">\n\nMy point is that there lie makes no sense at all. It’s a half assed lie, just like every other lie the Chinese make.", ">\n\nIt makes a lot of sense if you understand that China is a dictatorship.", ">\n\nWhy was it flying over a Montana missle base?", ">\n\nJust shoot it down already. It has no business being up there. If it was purely for scientific research they could have just asked.", ">\n\nriiiiight... and those islands you built in the South China Sea weren't for military uses...", ">\n\nYet if it was a US baloon over China they'd be screaming bloody murder well into 2057.", ">\n\nIf it was a balloon over China they would have televised shooting it down without a second's hesitation.", ">\n\nDisregarding anyone below it too.", ">\n\nScientific reason or not. Get it shot down and destroyed." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\".", ">\n\nOh and it has been proven they are controlling it and its moving east now.", ">\n\nOk 3 things\n1) if it is for weather purposes why would it be in a country other than your own\n2) as a weather device you would assume it had a GPS to verify location and weather data to help with whatever bs study they claim\n3) if it was lost why didn’t they say anything or do anything in the thousands of miles it to reach the US coastline. \nThis is obviously not a weather ballon and it’s a stupid excuse to use when you get caught.", ">\n\n\n\nUnderstanding the weather of your adversaries allows you to make better guesses as to things like crop yields. This could allow you to put compete them in the global markets. \n\n\nUh sure?\n\n\nWhy bother? They don't care about our well-being. \n\n\nIt's probably sensing a whole lot more than the weather, so I think this is a \"half\" lie by them. \n\"Sure it's a weather balloon. Also 10 other things but yeah, weather.\"", ">\n\nMy point is that there lie makes no sense at all. It’s a half assed lie, just like every other lie the Chinese make.", ">\n\nIt makes a lot of sense if you understand that China is a dictatorship.", ">\n\nWhy was it flying over a Montana missle base?", ">\n\nJust shoot it down already. It has no business being up there. If it was purely for scientific research they could have just asked.", ">\n\nriiiiight... and those islands you built in the South China Sea weren't for military uses...", ">\n\nYet if it was a US baloon over China they'd be screaming bloody murder well into 2057.", ">\n\nIf it was a balloon over China they would have televised shooting it down without a second's hesitation.", ">\n\nDisregarding anyone below it too.", ">\n\nScientific reason or not. Get it shot down and destroyed.", ">\n\nOh yeah. They just needed to know what the weather was like over the US and they forgot to pay the cable bill so they can't turn on The Weather Channel." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\".", ">\n\nOh and it has been proven they are controlling it and its moving east now.", ">\n\nOk 3 things\n1) if it is for weather purposes why would it be in a country other than your own\n2) as a weather device you would assume it had a GPS to verify location and weather data to help with whatever bs study they claim\n3) if it was lost why didn’t they say anything or do anything in the thousands of miles it to reach the US coastline. \nThis is obviously not a weather ballon and it’s a stupid excuse to use when you get caught.", ">\n\n\n\nUnderstanding the weather of your adversaries allows you to make better guesses as to things like crop yields. This could allow you to put compete them in the global markets. \n\n\nUh sure?\n\n\nWhy bother? They don't care about our well-being. \n\n\nIt's probably sensing a whole lot more than the weather, so I think this is a \"half\" lie by them. \n\"Sure it's a weather balloon. Also 10 other things but yeah, weather.\"", ">\n\nMy point is that there lie makes no sense at all. It’s a half assed lie, just like every other lie the Chinese make.", ">\n\nIt makes a lot of sense if you understand that China is a dictatorship.", ">\n\nWhy was it flying over a Montana missle base?", ">\n\nJust shoot it down already. It has no business being up there. If it was purely for scientific research they could have just asked.", ">\n\nriiiiight... and those islands you built in the South China Sea weren't for military uses...", ">\n\nYet if it was a US baloon over China they'd be screaming bloody murder well into 2057.", ">\n\nIf it was a balloon over China they would have televised shooting it down without a second's hesitation.", ">\n\nDisregarding anyone below it too.", ">\n\nScientific reason or not. Get it shot down and destroyed.", ">\n\nOh yeah. They just needed to know what the weather was like over the US and they forgot to pay the cable bill so they can't turn on The Weather Channel.", ">\n\nLet’s say it is meteorological why does china need more accurate information on air currents from Chinese mainland to U.S. the only thing I can think of is they are evaluating the amount of radiation that would head their way from a nuclear exchange. Do they know something we don’t? I doubt they would nuke us but maybe putin shared something in confidence with them." ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\".", ">\n\nOh and it has been proven they are controlling it and its moving east now.", ">\n\nOk 3 things\n1) if it is for weather purposes why would it be in a country other than your own\n2) as a weather device you would assume it had a GPS to verify location and weather data to help with whatever bs study they claim\n3) if it was lost why didn’t they say anything or do anything in the thousands of miles it to reach the US coastline. \nThis is obviously not a weather ballon and it’s a stupid excuse to use when you get caught.", ">\n\n\n\nUnderstanding the weather of your adversaries allows you to make better guesses as to things like crop yields. This could allow you to put compete them in the global markets. \n\n\nUh sure?\n\n\nWhy bother? They don't care about our well-being. \n\n\nIt's probably sensing a whole lot more than the weather, so I think this is a \"half\" lie by them. \n\"Sure it's a weather balloon. Also 10 other things but yeah, weather.\"", ">\n\nMy point is that there lie makes no sense at all. It’s a half assed lie, just like every other lie the Chinese make.", ">\n\nIt makes a lot of sense if you understand that China is a dictatorship.", ">\n\nWhy was it flying over a Montana missle base?", ">\n\nJust shoot it down already. It has no business being up there. If it was purely for scientific research they could have just asked.", ">\n\nriiiiight... and those islands you built in the South China Sea weren't for military uses...", ">\n\nYet if it was a US baloon over China they'd be screaming bloody murder well into 2057.", ">\n\nIf it was a balloon over China they would have televised shooting it down without a second's hesitation.", ">\n\nDisregarding anyone below it too.", ">\n\nScientific reason or not. Get it shot down and destroyed.", ">\n\nOh yeah. They just needed to know what the weather was like over the US and they forgot to pay the cable bill so they can't turn on The Weather Channel.", ">\n\nLet’s say it is meteorological why does china need more accurate information on air currents from Chinese mainland to U.S. the only thing I can think of is they are evaluating the amount of radiation that would head their way from a nuclear exchange. Do they know something we don’t? I doubt they would nuke us but maybe putin shared something in confidence with them.", ">\n\nIn that case they would be more worried about radiation coming from Russia after US retaliates" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\".", ">\n\nOh and it has been proven they are controlling it and its moving east now.", ">\n\nOk 3 things\n1) if it is for weather purposes why would it be in a country other than your own\n2) as a weather device you would assume it had a GPS to verify location and weather data to help with whatever bs study they claim\n3) if it was lost why didn’t they say anything or do anything in the thousands of miles it to reach the US coastline. \nThis is obviously not a weather ballon and it’s a stupid excuse to use when you get caught.", ">\n\n\n\nUnderstanding the weather of your adversaries allows you to make better guesses as to things like crop yields. This could allow you to put compete them in the global markets. \n\n\nUh sure?\n\n\nWhy bother? They don't care about our well-being. \n\n\nIt's probably sensing a whole lot more than the weather, so I think this is a \"half\" lie by them. \n\"Sure it's a weather balloon. Also 10 other things but yeah, weather.\"", ">\n\nMy point is that there lie makes no sense at all. It’s a half assed lie, just like every other lie the Chinese make.", ">\n\nIt makes a lot of sense if you understand that China is a dictatorship.", ">\n\nWhy was it flying over a Montana missle base?", ">\n\nJust shoot it down already. It has no business being up there. If it was purely for scientific research they could have just asked.", ">\n\nriiiiight... and those islands you built in the South China Sea weren't for military uses...", ">\n\nYet if it was a US baloon over China they'd be screaming bloody murder well into 2057.", ">\n\nIf it was a balloon over China they would have televised shooting it down without a second's hesitation.", ">\n\nDisregarding anyone below it too.", ">\n\nScientific reason or not. Get it shot down and destroyed.", ">\n\nOh yeah. They just needed to know what the weather was like over the US and they forgot to pay the cable bill so they can't turn on The Weather Channel.", ">\n\nLet’s say it is meteorological why does china need more accurate information on air currents from Chinese mainland to U.S. the only thing I can think of is they are evaluating the amount of radiation that would head their way from a nuclear exchange. Do they know something we don’t? I doubt they would nuke us but maybe putin shared something in confidence with them.", ">\n\nIn that case they would be more worried about radiation coming from Russia after US retaliates", ">\n\nCan’t we just shoot it down with those Jewish space lasers?" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\".", ">\n\nOh and it has been proven they are controlling it and its moving east now.", ">\n\nOk 3 things\n1) if it is for weather purposes why would it be in a country other than your own\n2) as a weather device you would assume it had a GPS to verify location and weather data to help with whatever bs study they claim\n3) if it was lost why didn’t they say anything or do anything in the thousands of miles it to reach the US coastline. \nThis is obviously not a weather ballon and it’s a stupid excuse to use when you get caught.", ">\n\n\n\nUnderstanding the weather of your adversaries allows you to make better guesses as to things like crop yields. This could allow you to put compete them in the global markets. \n\n\nUh sure?\n\n\nWhy bother? They don't care about our well-being. \n\n\nIt's probably sensing a whole lot more than the weather, so I think this is a \"half\" lie by them. \n\"Sure it's a weather balloon. Also 10 other things but yeah, weather.\"", ">\n\nMy point is that there lie makes no sense at all. It’s a half assed lie, just like every other lie the Chinese make.", ">\n\nIt makes a lot of sense if you understand that China is a dictatorship.", ">\n\nWhy was it flying over a Montana missle base?", ">\n\nJust shoot it down already. It has no business being up there. If it was purely for scientific research they could have just asked.", ">\n\nriiiiight... and those islands you built in the South China Sea weren't for military uses...", ">\n\nYet if it was a US baloon over China they'd be screaming bloody murder well into 2057.", ">\n\nIf it was a balloon over China they would have televised shooting it down without a second's hesitation.", ">\n\nDisregarding anyone below it too.", ">\n\nScientific reason or not. Get it shot down and destroyed.", ">\n\nOh yeah. They just needed to know what the weather was like over the US and they forgot to pay the cable bill so they can't turn on The Weather Channel.", ">\n\nLet’s say it is meteorological why does china need more accurate information on air currents from Chinese mainland to U.S. the only thing I can think of is they are evaluating the amount of radiation that would head their way from a nuclear exchange. Do they know something we don’t? I doubt they would nuke us but maybe putin shared something in confidence with them.", ">\n\nIn that case they would be more worried about radiation coming from Russia after US retaliates", ">\n\nCan’t we just shoot it down with those Jewish space lasers?", ">\n\nThis is probably a stupid question…but is there a way for the US to capture and study tech attached to the balloon to see if China’s reasoning are true or not? It being in the US’s airspace makes it fair game, no?" ]

[ "“Why is the telescope pointed down”\n“…”", ">\n\nBecause if it was pointed up, they’d just see the bottom of the balloon.", ">\n\nI think its time for the Canadians to send them some balloons in response\nStarted has the balloon wars!", ">\n\n99 luftballons", ">\n\nred ones", ">\n\nCall Goldfinger", ">\n\nWell, that is an old one. Wasn't that the reason given about why the U2 that was shot down over the USSR with Francis Gary Powers was flying that day?", ">\n\nAlso same reason USA gave for it balloon flights over USSR and PRC during cold war, when confronted about it. So they are just plain \"oldie but goodie\" excuse and also probably from China bit of \"we haven't forgotten, that you used to do this to us\".", ">\n\nWhy would we believe anything they say?", ">\n\nIt makes sense, doesn't it?\nLike who believes China would send a huge white balloon into the sky for everyone to see with the bare eye and use it for spying purpose? They have satellites to do that secretly. And the USA could take down the balloon any time they want. They simply chose not to do it.\nAnother cheap spying option, like we have seen from Russia since the invasion in Ukraine started: There have been small drone sightings near military installations and military training grounds in Europe. In Norway they even caught operators.\nNo one would use a huge white balloon in the sky. That's something for a Monty Python movie.", ">\n\nIt's also 80000 to 100000.. feet up very not visible to the naked eye. It is visible to radar, but the jet stream hasn't changed much at all over the last month, they knew where it was heading.\n(our passenger jets fly about 36000 feet and are barely visible at cruising altitude)", ">\n\nIt’s currently at 64,200 feet. I’ve seen it as high as 67,000 on the Flightradar24 app. Passenger planes I’ve seen cruising anywhere between 35-45,000 feet.", ">\n\nI mentioned my source in my post, Flightradar24 app.", ">\n\nCould you provide I link, I highly doubt that this balloon has a transponder, are you sure you're not looking at something from project loon?", ">\n\n~~flightradar24.com/***~~\n~~It's the #1 tracked thing in the world atm via MLAT though.~~\nedit: Due to the reply, I'm not sure and removed the probably wrong link.", ">\n\nWhat a maroon … I bamboozled myself, lol. Appreciate your mythbusting on me.", ">\n\nExplained after they got caught?", ">\n\nI can't believe that thing is still in the air.", ">\n\nNormal citizens have no capability to take it down.", ">\n\nTrue, not normally. It seems there would be the type of people out there to figure out a way to do it. Perhaps not normal, but still civilians (non-official, non-police, non-military).", ">\n\nThe only civilians that could do it are Bezos or Musk, for obvious reasons. You must not comprehend just how high that is.", ">\n\n¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe. Or a not-so-regular macgyver. Perhaps a Felix Baumgartner type only with a different mindset.", ">\n\nNWS has there own balloons and the NWS doesn’t have balloons that big in the atmosphere. Plus the NWS balloons don’t go halfway around the world.", ">\n\nAlso I have a feeling NWS doesn’t keep the data they collect a big secret and they could have easily got data from them if they just asked, or looked it up online…", ">\n\nBut then the data would be in english, and I guess they probly wanted the data in Chinese.", ">\n\nIf they’re being honest they would allow the US to down and it analyze its contents.", ">\n\nI mean it's in US airspace isn't it? Why wasn't it already shot down? God knows what the Chinese are up to\nWill there be diplomatic issues if US shoots it down?", ">\n\nI think the only reason is they don't want to threaten the lives of the people below if it turns out to be a bomb or something.", ">\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\nYou don't need a bomb, a pebble is dangerous from that height.", ">\n\nOk so let’s hit you with a pebble traveling at terminal so we can check the validity of their argument.", ">\n\nSure, it'd probably hurt a little but I'd be fine.\nFor reference a 1cm hailstone has a terminal velocity of only a bit over 15 miles per hour.\nThere's a reason golfball sized hailstorms aren't mass casualty events", ">\n\nAnd if all the components on the instruments and solar panels were made of ice you’d almost have a point!", ">\n\nAre you under the impression things made of ice have a lower terminal velocity than everything else?...\nAlso, weren't we talking about pebbles?", ">\n\nYou realize we don't live in a vacuum, right? Terminal velocity is affected by drag, which is in turn affected by an object's density. You conveniently picked ice, which has an extremely low density, and thus lower drag. \nThe original comment you're contesting with tErMiNaL vEloCiTy! is\n\nAlready in the first reports about this balloon, it was stated falling debris is too dangerous, so it's not taken down.\n\nThe basis of your argument is effectively \"well ice falling out of the sky doesn't hurt anyone, so fragments of metal won't either!\" You know your argument sucks, so you're honing in on semantics of \"how big is the pebble\" and \"what about ice!\", knowing full well that metal debris falling from 60K feet can absolutely hurt someone.\nFurthermore, we can't control the weather (generally speaking), so the tolerance for hail falling on us that is caused by natural weather patterns is dramatically higher than the government having an F-22 slap a giant balloon carrying metal components with an AIM-120 and cause the aftermath to fall all over your property.", ">\n\nI think a lot of folks are thinking that this is a spy balloon but the Chinese are saying it’s a weather balloon. I think that is obviously a very real possibility here. Just one question:\nWhat are the advantages of a balloon over a satellite? Satellites are certainly further away (duh) but with the cameras they have, they can pert near take a picture of a flea on a dog’s ass. Seeing as how china probably already has spy satellites flying over the US without incident, how detailed do they need the images to be that they’d be willing to risk the international kerfuffle?", ">\n\nI call bullshit. You do realize they are controlling its flight path dont you??? This thing has had a non-wind generated flight path. A satellita cannot stay on top of a land area for any length of time due to earth rotation and satellite geo-spatial alignment. They are video taping movement over nuclear silos and miltary bases in Montana.. China is gas lighting us. This is absolute spying. China would have told our govt .. Hey, we have a weather balloon flying over your air space please dont shoot it down.. But no they didnt.. If our govt doesnt shoot this thing down when it can safely and take control of it our govt is now China's bitch..", ">\n\n?\nA GEO satellite can stay over a fixed point for as long as it wants (has power and communications)", ">\n\nYes geo-stationary can.. But lets think about this. Check all that have them.. China, Japan, Russia, US, UK have geo sats maybe a few others.. We all have some data on things... Lower atmosphere surveillance has its advantages, just like what we do for terrorism with planes and drones, but China cant do that over the US on a whim, but if its a \"weather balloon\" gone amuck.. Well all is just fine.and it just so happens to be over US areas they have bought properties in... Weather Satellites that are open source use for many countries can give them all they need for \"weather\".", ">\n\nOh and it has been proven they are controlling it and its moving east now.", ">\n\nOk 3 things\n1) if it is for weather purposes why would it be in a country other than your own\n2) as a weather device you would assume it had a GPS to verify location and weather data to help with whatever bs study they claim\n3) if it was lost why didn’t they say anything or do anything in the thousands of miles it to reach the US coastline. \nThis is obviously not a weather ballon and it’s a stupid excuse to use when you get caught.", ">\n\n\n\nUnderstanding the weather of your adversaries allows you to make better guesses as to things like crop yields. This could allow you to put compete them in the global markets. \n\n\nUh sure?\n\n\nWhy bother? They don't care about our well-being. \n\n\nIt's probably sensing a whole lot more than the weather, so I think this is a \"half\" lie by them. \n\"Sure it's a weather balloon. Also 10 other things but yeah, weather.\"", ">\n\nMy point is that there lie makes no sense at all. It’s a half assed lie, just like every other lie the Chinese make.", ">\n\nIt makes a lot of sense if you understand that China is a dictatorship.", ">\n\nWhy was it flying over a Montana missle base?", ">\n\nJust shoot it down already. It has no business being up there. If it was purely for scientific research they could have just asked.", ">\n\nriiiiight... and those islands you built in the South China Sea weren't for military uses...", ">\n\nYet if it was a US baloon over China they'd be screaming bloody murder well into 2057.", ">\n\nIf it was a balloon over China they would have televised shooting it down without a second's hesitation.", ">\n\nDisregarding anyone below it too.", ">\n\nScientific reason or not. Get it shot down and destroyed.", ">\n\nOh yeah. They just needed to know what the weather was like over the US and they forgot to pay the cable bill so they can't turn on The Weather Channel.", ">\n\nLet’s say it is meteorological why does china need more accurate information on air currents from Chinese mainland to U.S. the only thing I can think of is they are evaluating the amount of radiation that would head their way from a nuclear exchange. Do they know something we don’t? I doubt they would nuke us but maybe putin shared something in confidence with them.", ">\n\nIn that case they would be more worried about radiation coming from Russia after US retaliates", ">\n\nCan’t we just shoot it down with those Jewish space lasers?", ">\n\nThis is probably a stupid question…but is there a way for the US to capture and study tech attached to the balloon to see if China’s reasoning are true or not? It being in the US’s airspace makes it fair game, no?", ">\n\nCan we do balloon wars instead of betacuck Russia-style wars from now on?" ]