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> She makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…" ]
> I wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons" ]
> Prolly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week." ]
> Simena and Santos have the same facial structure. I'm not 100% sure they are separate people.
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale." ]
> Hey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people." ]
> Vote Gallego.
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s" ]
> “Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.” So… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines? Guess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego." ]
> I 100% regret voting for this fake B
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…" ]
> She, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B" ]
> Ffs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers." ]
> Ffs man, just kick her out. who, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude." ]
> "Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property. Unprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior" ]
> Obligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal." ]
> I’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name" ]
> Krysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?" ]
> I would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!" ]
> She really snookered her constituents in Arizona.
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting" ]
> And after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona." ]
> I still cannot believe I voted for this POS.
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once." ]
> You mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS." ]
> Santos and Sinema are actually the same people.
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS.", ">\n\nYou mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand" ]
> Yeah .. she is one self serving person....
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS.", ">\n\nYou mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand", ">\n\nSantos and Sinema are actually the same people." ]
> Is this the groundwork for impeachment? Is this the “finding out” part of Sinema’s “fucking around”?
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS.", ">\n\nYou mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand", ">\n\nSantos and Sinema are actually the same people.", ">\n\nYeah .. she is one self serving person...." ]
> Wish dot com Pam Beasley.
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS.", ">\n\nYou mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand", ">\n\nSantos and Sinema are actually the same people.", ">\n\nYeah .. she is one self serving person....", ">\n\nIs this the groundwork for impeachment? Is this the “finding out” part of Sinema’s “fucking around”?" ]
> This is old news and an out side org making accusations. 🥱
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS.", ">\n\nYou mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand", ">\n\nSantos and Sinema are actually the same people.", ">\n\nYeah .. she is one self serving person....", ">\n\nIs this the groundwork for impeachment? Is this the “finding out” part of Sinema’s “fucking around”?", ">\n\nWish dot com Pam Beasley." ]
> Let’s see if progressive groups are just as passionate about the Katie Porter’s treatment of her staff
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS.", ">\n\nYou mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand", ">\n\nSantos and Sinema are actually the same people.", ">\n\nYeah .. she is one self serving person....", ">\n\nIs this the groundwork for impeachment? Is this the “finding out” part of Sinema’s “fucking around”?", ">\n\nWish dot com Pam Beasley.", ">\n\nThis is old news and an out side org making accusations. 🥱" ]
> I thought trump got rid of ethics?
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS.", ">\n\nYou mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand", ">\n\nSantos and Sinema are actually the same people.", ">\n\nYeah .. she is one self serving person....", ">\n\nIs this the groundwork for impeachment? Is this the “finding out” part of Sinema’s “fucking around”?", ">\n\nWish dot com Pam Beasley.", ">\n\nThis is old news and an out side org making accusations. 🥱", ">\n\nLet’s see if progressive groups are just as passionate about the Katie Porter’s treatment of her staff" ]
> I imagine she is the real life Salina Meyer.
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS.", ">\n\nYou mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand", ">\n\nSantos and Sinema are actually the same people.", ">\n\nYeah .. she is one self serving person....", ">\n\nIs this the groundwork for impeachment? Is this the “finding out” part of Sinema’s “fucking around”?", ">\n\nWish dot com Pam Beasley.", ">\n\nThis is old news and an out side org making accusations. 🥱", ">\n\nLet’s see if progressive groups are just as passionate about the Katie Porter’s treatment of her staff", ">\n\nI thought trump got rid of ethics?" ]
> I’ll be watching closely and patiently waiting to see consequences of the elites actions…
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS.", ">\n\nYou mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand", ">\n\nSantos and Sinema are actually the same people.", ">\n\nYeah .. she is one self serving person....", ">\n\nIs this the groundwork for impeachment? Is this the “finding out” part of Sinema’s “fucking around”?", ">\n\nWish dot com Pam Beasley.", ">\n\nThis is old news and an out side org making accusations. 🥱", ">\n\nLet’s see if progressive groups are just as passionate about the Katie Porter’s treatment of her staff", ">\n\nI thought trump got rid of ethics?", ">\n\nI imagine she is the real life Salina Meyer." ]
> Pam Beesly?
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS.", ">\n\nYou mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand", ">\n\nSantos and Sinema are actually the same people.", ">\n\nYeah .. she is one self serving person....", ">\n\nIs this the groundwork for impeachment? Is this the “finding out” part of Sinema’s “fucking around”?", ">\n\nWish dot com Pam Beasley.", ">\n\nThis is old news and an out side org making accusations. 🥱", ">\n\nLet’s see if progressive groups are just as passionate about the Katie Porter’s treatment of her staff", ">\n\nI thought trump got rid of ethics?", ">\n\nI imagine she is the real life Salina Meyer.", ">\n\nI’ll be watching closely and patiently waiting to see consequences of the elites actions…" ]
> “Oh a complaint. That’ll teach me!”
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS.", ">\n\nYou mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand", ">\n\nSantos and Sinema are actually the same people.", ">\n\nYeah .. she is one self serving person....", ">\n\nIs this the groundwork for impeachment? Is this the “finding out” part of Sinema’s “fucking around”?", ">\n\nWish dot com Pam Beasley.", ">\n\nThis is old news and an out side org making accusations. 🥱", ">\n\nLet’s see if progressive groups are just as passionate about the Katie Porter’s treatment of her staff", ">\n\nI thought trump got rid of ethics?", ">\n\nI imagine she is the real life Salina Meyer.", ">\n\nI’ll be watching closely and patiently waiting to see consequences of the elites actions…", ">\n\nPam Beesly?" ]
> Good thing the GOP just gutted the ethics office responsible for investigating things like this. /s
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS.", ">\n\nYou mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand", ">\n\nSantos and Sinema are actually the same people.", ">\n\nYeah .. she is one self serving person....", ">\n\nIs this the groundwork for impeachment? Is this the “finding out” part of Sinema’s “fucking around”?", ">\n\nWish dot com Pam Beasley.", ">\n\nThis is old news and an out side org making accusations. 🥱", ">\n\nLet’s see if progressive groups are just as passionate about the Katie Porter’s treatment of her staff", ">\n\nI thought trump got rid of ethics?", ">\n\nI imagine she is the real life Salina Meyer.", ">\n\nI’ll be watching closely and patiently waiting to see consequences of the elites actions…", ">\n\nPam Beesly?", ">\n\n“Oh a complaint. That’ll teach me!”" ]
> Lmao anyone still giving a shit about politicians doesn't deserve a seat at the table
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS.", ">\n\nYou mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand", ">\n\nSantos and Sinema are actually the same people.", ">\n\nYeah .. she is one self serving person....", ">\n\nIs this the groundwork for impeachment? Is this the “finding out” part of Sinema’s “fucking around”?", ">\n\nWish dot com Pam Beasley.", ">\n\nThis is old news and an out side org making accusations. 🥱", ">\n\nLet’s see if progressive groups are just as passionate about the Katie Porter’s treatment of her staff", ">\n\nI thought trump got rid of ethics?", ">\n\nI imagine she is the real life Salina Meyer.", ">\n\nI’ll be watching closely and patiently waiting to see consequences of the elites actions…", ">\n\nPam Beesly?", ">\n\n“Oh a complaint. That’ll teach me!”", ">\n\nGood thing the GOP just gutted the ethics office responsible for investigating things like this. /s" ]
> Is that the title of her Autobiography?
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS.", ">\n\nYou mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand", ">\n\nSantos and Sinema are actually the same people.", ">\n\nYeah .. she is one self serving person....", ">\n\nIs this the groundwork for impeachment? Is this the “finding out” part of Sinema’s “fucking around”?", ">\n\nWish dot com Pam Beasley.", ">\n\nThis is old news and an out side org making accusations. 🥱", ">\n\nLet’s see if progressive groups are just as passionate about the Katie Porter’s treatment of her staff", ">\n\nI thought trump got rid of ethics?", ">\n\nI imagine she is the real life Salina Meyer.", ">\n\nI’ll be watching closely and patiently waiting to see consequences of the elites actions…", ">\n\nPam Beesly?", ">\n\n“Oh a complaint. That’ll teach me!”", ">\n\nGood thing the GOP just gutted the ethics office responsible for investigating things like this. /s", ">\n\nLmao anyone still giving a shit about politicians doesn't deserve a seat at the table" ]
> Yes there were. Where have you been? Did you miss the memes of her giving the thumbs down to raising the minimum wage and the other times she was bashed by dems/the left?
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS.", ">\n\nYou mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand", ">\n\nSantos and Sinema are actually the same people.", ">\n\nYeah .. she is one self serving person....", ">\n\nIs this the groundwork for impeachment? Is this the “finding out” part of Sinema’s “fucking around”?", ">\n\nWish dot com Pam Beasley.", ">\n\nThis is old news and an out side org making accusations. 🥱", ">\n\nLet’s see if progressive groups are just as passionate about the Katie Porter’s treatment of her staff", ">\n\nI thought trump got rid of ethics?", ">\n\nI imagine she is the real life Salina Meyer.", ">\n\nI’ll be watching closely and patiently waiting to see consequences of the elites actions…", ">\n\nPam Beesly?", ">\n\n“Oh a complaint. That’ll teach me!”", ">\n\nGood thing the GOP just gutted the ethics office responsible for investigating things like this. /s", ">\n\nLmao anyone still giving a shit about politicians doesn't deserve a seat at the table", ">\n\nIs that the title of her Autobiography?" ]
> But the movie about her starring Sarah Paulson will be good
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS.", ">\n\nYou mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand", ">\n\nSantos and Sinema are actually the same people.", ">\n\nYeah .. she is one self serving person....", ">\n\nIs this the groundwork for impeachment? Is this the “finding out” part of Sinema’s “fucking around”?", ">\n\nWish dot com Pam Beasley.", ">\n\nThis is old news and an out side org making accusations. 🥱", ">\n\nLet’s see if progressive groups are just as passionate about the Katie Porter’s treatment of her staff", ">\n\nI thought trump got rid of ethics?", ">\n\nI imagine she is the real life Salina Meyer.", ">\n\nI’ll be watching closely and patiently waiting to see consequences of the elites actions…", ">\n\nPam Beesly?", ">\n\n“Oh a complaint. That’ll teach me!”", ">\n\nGood thing the GOP just gutted the ethics office responsible for investigating things like this. /s", ">\n\nLmao anyone still giving a shit about politicians doesn't deserve a seat at the table", ">\n\nIs that the title of her Autobiography?", ">\n\nYes there were. Where have you been? Did you miss the memes of her giving the thumbs down to raising the minimum wage and the other times she was bashed by dems/the left?" ]
> She needs to go and hopefully Gallego doesn't end up splitting the D vote and letting whoever the republicans run in 2024 to take the senate seat. I don't remember her being the way she is when she was in office at the state level or even early in her congressional stint. Now, we'll see about the allegations, but it wouldn't surprise me if they're true.
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS.", ">\n\nYou mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand", ">\n\nSantos and Sinema are actually the same people.", ">\n\nYeah .. she is one self serving person....", ">\n\nIs this the groundwork for impeachment? Is this the “finding out” part of Sinema’s “fucking around”?", ">\n\nWish dot com Pam Beasley.", ">\n\nThis is old news and an out side org making accusations. 🥱", ">\n\nLet’s see if progressive groups are just as passionate about the Katie Porter’s treatment of her staff", ">\n\nI thought trump got rid of ethics?", ">\n\nI imagine she is the real life Salina Meyer.", ">\n\nI’ll be watching closely and patiently waiting to see consequences of the elites actions…", ">\n\nPam Beesly?", ">\n\n“Oh a complaint. That’ll teach me!”", ">\n\nGood thing the GOP just gutted the ethics office responsible for investigating things like this. /s", ">\n\nLmao anyone still giving a shit about politicians doesn't deserve a seat at the table", ">\n\nIs that the title of her Autobiography?", ">\n\nYes there were. Where have you been? Did you miss the memes of her giving the thumbs down to raising the minimum wage and the other times she was bashed by dems/the left?", ">\n\nBut the movie about her starring Sarah Paulson will be good" ]
>
[ "The accusations “paint a picture of a Senator who is not only unresponsive to her constituents, but also disrespectful and even abusive to her employees and wholly unconcerned about her obligations under the law,” \n“Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.", ">\n\nQuoting what your policy is doesn't constitute a denial. \n\nFollowing The Daily Beast article in December, Sinema spokeswoman Hannah Hurley insisted that the senator “does not require staff to perform personal errands,” and that “the alleged information—sourced from anonymous quotes and a purported document I can’t verify—is not in line with official guidance from Sen. Sinema’s office and does not represent official policies of Sen. Sinema’s office.”", ">\n\nAfter Ms Hurley made this statement, she resumed her job painting Ms Sinema's backyard fence.", ">\n\nMs Hurley complained that Ms Sinema tricked her by pretending to take great delight painting said fence when in fact it was a deceit intended to lure Ms Hurley into a life of subservience.", ">\n\nin fact, Ms Hurley paid Ms Sinema for the privilege of painting the fence!", ">\n\nMs Hurley paid out of her personal funds the full cost of the paint (color being Cruella Icequeen Frost) she personally selected at Lowes during work hours as an assigned task 💅🏻", ">\n\nEthics complaints are useless. Four years of the Trump administration proved it.", ">\n\nThat’s the sad truth, and it gets gutted more and more.", ">\n\nOne things for fuckin sure - AZ needs better. \nFuck off Sinema. Gallego will trounce you. And he's more awesome anyway.", ">\n\n\nGallego will trounce you.\n\nNothing is certain until it is. He can win, but there's no guarantee he will and he ONLY will if everyone that does not want Sinema and lives in AZ, actively organizes and campaigns for Gallego starting now.\nThere was a similar scenario in the OR Governor's race this past election and it was nail biter, not because the \"left-leaning Independent\" was likely to win, but because she absolutely acted as a spoiler candidate for the Democrat in the race (who eventually did win but it was far too close).", ">\n\nI don't know if you live here, but I'm already being bombarded with multiple texts and emails campaigning for him. I have very little doubt he'll win over Sinema. He polls very well here, and she polls very unfavorably, so it's not really as long a shot as you'd think.", ">\n\nAgain, it's not about him winning over Sinema, that's not the issue, it's if Sinema will spoil the race and get the Republican candidate elected because she'll siphon off votes that otherwise would have gone to the generic Democrat on the ballot. Democrats who are paying attention aren't going to vote for Sinema, but there are a LOT of low information and moderate voters who would reliably vote for any Democrat in a D v R race, but might go for Sinema in a 3rd person race (for whatever reason, name recognition, prefer a moderate, etc.), and it will only take 1 percentage point or two to throw a race.", ">\n\nRight, the concern isn't her winning. It's could she siphon enough votes from Gallegos to put someone like Qari Lake in the senate.", ">\n\nThe republicans like her more than the democrats. Fox news has been talking favorably of Sinema. So I'm not so sure she'd be syphoning votes from democrats.", ">\n\nThey like her because she's undermining Democrats, and they'd love if Manchin flipped now and gave them control of the senate. But most Republicans aren't going to vote for her over a real Republican.\nMy concern isn't that she'd take Democrat votes. My concern is that AZ is probably still a lot like GA, where a Democrat needs a lot of moderate votes to win. It's her winning votes from independents and moderate Republicans that might vote for Gallegos over a Trumpy Republican that could cost Democrats.", ">\n\nActually yeah, I could see that. \nOnly time will tell.", ">\n\nShe says it's not true, so expect emails, video, texts and voice-mail to be leaked next week.", ">\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist employing performative politics to play all sides for her own benefit. Not too surprising that she treats her staff the same as her constituents", ">\n\n\nEmbodiment of a self-serving narcissist\n\n☝️\nFrom day one she was full of bullshit and putting on a performance.", ">\n\nI read an article the other day that Republicans controlling the house is a result of voter suppression laws. Sinema and Manchin shutdown getting rid of the fillibuster which would have allowed the voter protection act to pass. The crap going on in Congress now is 50% on her.", ">\n\nTechnically it’s 1.9% on her. She was one of 52 senators opposed getting rid of the filibuster.", ">\n\n50 of those don't have the mental capacity, or spine to make decisions on their own unfortunately.", ">\n\nSinema is legitimately a horrible person who should be ashamed for blatantly bullshitting the people that elected her entirely to line her own fucking pockets. She should be insulted and heckled every time she steps foot in public, until she disappears from public life forever or sees punishment for her actions", ">\n\nSinema, the original Santos.", ">\n\nExcept she fucked up and forgot that the party and constituents she was pretending to represent were not those that embrace liars and revel in their evilness. Which is why she’s now “independent”.", ">\n\nAnother article on $inema. This trash bag has got to go.", ">\n\nIs anyone surprised that the self appointed princess behaves this way?", ">\n\nShe's an abusive, self-centered asshole? Who would have ever guessed?!?", ">\n\nDo we (American here) still do ethics? Thought that was pretty much over", ">\n\nI wouldn't expect a woman with zero ethics to have any ethics.", ">\n\nMakes me even more mad that she was a social worker and sucks this hard.", ">\n\nThat scares me quite frankly.", ">\n\nIs it just me or does she look a bit like Santos in that photo?", ">\n\nhave we ever seen them together in the same room before? 🤨🤨🤨", ">\n\nThis lady is the worst…what an awful human.", ">\n\nJoe Manchin must wake up every morning thanking god that Sinema was elected. Sinema makes an old white guy elected by the coal industry look senatorial.", ">\n\nThe fucking curtsy. Disgusting.", ">\n\nClearly she's forgotten the people who put her in the position she's in. Unless something changes she's toast during the 2024 primary. Not surprising she's acted this way given she's abandoned the party. Take a look at the first word of every sentence of my post if you want to know what I really think about her.", ">\n\nProbably been doing thisfor years, they just never gave a crap so long as she voted how they wanted her to.", ">\n\nJudging the book by its cover, this does not surprise me", ">\n\nshocked Pikachu", ">\n\nWell gosh darn it, isn’t that just a surprise to all of us…", ">\n\nShe makes them swab her lady bits while training for her marathons", ">\n\nI wish I knew where she lived. I'd be leaving flaming bags of poop on her door step multiple times a week.", ">\n\nProlly one of those gated communities in or around Snobsdale.", ">\n\nSimena and Santos have the same facial structure.\nI'm not 100% sure they are separate people.", ">\n\nHey, she is just out there doing what she thinks is best ~~for her constituents~~ Kyrsten Sinema and how can anyone complain about that? /s", ">\n\nVote Gallego.", ">\n\n“Yet, Holman noted that Sinema insists she did not have a hand in drafting or implementing the staff guidelines in question.”\nSo… At no point you saw the contract your staff signed or read the demands in front of them? This whole time, no one ever told you or you actually find out your staff was breaking senate ethics guidelines?\nGuess it’s hard to really do anything when you’re holding McConnell’s pocket…", ">\n\nI 100% regret voting for this fake B", ">\n\nShe, & probably more, are actually REPUBS POSING AS DEMOCRATS to screw up votes that will help WE THE PEOPLE. Sneaky MFers.", ">\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. Shouldn't be this difficult to remove pus-filled catheter bags like this, but yet here we are. More years voting and hoping that our government actually gets off its ass and changes things for the better. This place fuckin' sucks dude.", ">\n\n\nFfs man, just kick her out. \n\nwho, Senators who agree with her, vote with their party less than 100% of the time or overuse pliant staff angling for referrals and access. there isn't anything illegal or unprecedented about her behavior", ">\n\n\n\"Most troubling,” the letter alleges, Sinema, who recently switched from the Democratic Party to govern as an Independent, “calls on staff members, who are employed and paid by the public and explicitly barred from campaign activity, to schedule and facilitate political fundraisers and meetings with campaign donors, presumably during the workday while they are on the clock and physically on federal property.\n\nUnprecedented, perhaps, but this sure does sound illegal.", ">\n\nObligatory reminder that Kristen Sinema is a waste of a perfect porn name", ">\n\nI’ve been operating under the assumption that a large majority of congress is something like this. Is this not true?", ">\n\nKrysten hears ya...Krysten don't care!", ">\n\nI would be scared that people would spit in my food at every restaurant if I were her honestly. That insecurity is not worth any amount of money she's getting", ">\n\nShe really snookered her constituents in Arizona.", ">\n\nAnd after Dems and likely independents supported her more than once.", ">\n\nI still cannot believe I voted for this POS.", ">\n\nYou mean the disloyal self serving g fool is also entitled and disrespectful and unlawful. Sounds like republicans brand", ">\n\nSantos and Sinema are actually the same people.", ">\n\nYeah .. she is one self serving person....", ">\n\nIs this the groundwork for impeachment? Is this the “finding out” part of Sinema’s “fucking around”?", ">\n\nWish dot com Pam Beasley.", ">\n\nThis is old news and an out side org making accusations. 🥱", ">\n\nLet’s see if progressive groups are just as passionate about the Katie Porter’s treatment of her staff", ">\n\nI thought trump got rid of ethics?", ">\n\nI imagine she is the real life Salina Meyer.", ">\n\nI’ll be watching closely and patiently waiting to see consequences of the elites actions…", ">\n\nPam Beesly?", ">\n\n“Oh a complaint. That’ll teach me!”", ">\n\nGood thing the GOP just gutted the ethics office responsible for investigating things like this. /s", ">\n\nLmao anyone still giving a shit about politicians doesn't deserve a seat at the table", ">\n\nIs that the title of her Autobiography?", ">\n\nYes there were. Where have you been? Did you miss the memes of her giving the thumbs down to raising the minimum wage and the other times she was bashed by dems/the left?", ">\n\nBut the movie about her starring Sarah Paulson will be good", ">\n\nShe needs to go and hopefully Gallego doesn't end up splitting the D vote and letting whoever the republicans run in 2024 to take the senate seat.\nI don't remember her being the way she is when she was in office at the state level or even early in her congressional stint. Now, we'll see about the allegations, but it wouldn't surprise me if they're true." ]
You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.
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> Magic you say? Pick a card.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness." ]
> I don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card." ]
> I'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman." ]
> but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. Dude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored" ]
> Dude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite As a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics." ]
> you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me. Why? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me." ]
> It was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. About the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?" ]
> Nah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me "Comic book guy" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion." ]
> Like everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics. with only one real weakness Post-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave On a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything. the same four characters Luthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time." ]
> "inability to do everything" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others." ]
> He hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity. Stop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone" ]
> Even at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is" ]
> Again, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour" ]
> less than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive" ]
> less than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum Again. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting." ]
> Alrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s" ]
> Everything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment" ]
> "He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!" Dude straight up got punched to death one time.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot" ]
> He was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time." ]
> He's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring" ]
> Here here! And when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long" ]
> when? 8 years ago
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL." ]
> Right?! I'm sitting here like "uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?"
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago" ]
> First I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"" ]
> If I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness Hey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong. Maybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?" ]
> It probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians." ]
> Karma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books." ]
> Superman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant." ]
> you have never ever read a dc comic have you
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception." ]
> Tell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you" ]
> “One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me." ]
> Superman was created in 1933. Let that marinate
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic." ]
> His first appearance was on April 18, 1938.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate" ]
> Weren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938." ]
> Maybe this makes him less boring: Superman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah... This was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman "Ka-Lel" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally "Code Switch" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?" ]
> You only think this becuase you havent read the comics.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today." ]
> Comments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr "oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS"
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics." ]
> Bro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say "ive read the comics" when everything else you say suggest you dont.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"" ]
> Its the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont." ]
> It's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic" ]
> Calling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say" ]
> Except for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is." ]
> Your original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly." ]
> I'd like to say, OP doesn't have to have read the comics to think superman is boring. Most mainstream media about him is in movies which, usually, only portray those two factors. Think of it more as OP criticizing the pop culture form of superman as opposed to comics which, tbf also do a little retconning of their own.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.", ">\n\nYour original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that." ]
> A very interesting point about Superman was made in "Kill Bill, Vol.2," when Bill explains to Beatrice why she is too special to live a normal life. He says, all the superheroes put on costumes to assume the character of a superhero, except Superman. His costume is his character, and he has to put on a normal costume to not be a superhero. So he is special.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.", ">\n\nYour original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that.", ">\n\nI'd like to say, OP doesn't have to have read the comics to think superman is boring. Most mainstream media about him is in movies which, usually, only portray those two factors. Think of it more as OP criticizing the pop culture form of superman as opposed to comics which, tbf also do a little retconning of their own." ]
> Back around '85 they did a reboot and John Byrne essentially wrote him as the opposite. Clark Kent was the person - Superboy didn't exist in the reboot - and Superman was the secret identity he created to do his good deeds. A much more interesting take on the character, and it made me a bigger fan. Bill's version of events is basically Superman when poorly portrayed, which has been pretty common over the years.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.", ">\n\nYour original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that.", ">\n\nI'd like to say, OP doesn't have to have read the comics to think superman is boring. Most mainstream media about him is in movies which, usually, only portray those two factors. Think of it more as OP criticizing the pop culture form of superman as opposed to comics which, tbf also do a little retconning of their own.", ">\n\nA very interesting point about Superman was made in \"Kill Bill, Vol.2,\" when Bill explains to Beatrice why she is too special to live a normal life. He says, all the superheroes put on costumes to assume the character of a superhero, except Superman. His costume is his character, and he has to put on a normal costume to not be a superhero. So he is special." ]
> Have you seen the movie Angus? There’s a scene about how Superman isn’t brave in there that you may enjoy. the scene
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.", ">\n\nYour original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that.", ">\n\nI'd like to say, OP doesn't have to have read the comics to think superman is boring. Most mainstream media about him is in movies which, usually, only portray those two factors. Think of it more as OP criticizing the pop culture form of superman as opposed to comics which, tbf also do a little retconning of their own.", ">\n\nA very interesting point about Superman was made in \"Kill Bill, Vol.2,\" when Bill explains to Beatrice why she is too special to live a normal life. He says, all the superheroes put on costumes to assume the character of a superhero, except Superman. His costume is his character, and he has to put on a normal costume to not be a superhero. So he is special.", ">\n\nBack around '85 they did a reboot and John Byrne essentially wrote him as the opposite. Clark Kent was the person - Superboy didn't exist in the reboot - and Superman was the secret identity he created to do his good deeds. A much more interesting take on the character, and it made me a bigger fan.\nBill's version of events is basically Superman when poorly portrayed, which has been pretty common over the years." ]
> Superman on his own is fine I think, any good super man story is not a test of his might, it’s a test of his morals and if he can continue being the best out of all of us. I think the real issue is when he’s on a team (justice league). There is quite literally no reason for him to have a team made up of people who combined do not even sniff the kind of power he has (minus maybe the flash depending on the story). That’s why in both versions of the justice league movies it’s really just a team trying to resurrect super man so he can win the fight.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.", ">\n\nYour original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that.", ">\n\nI'd like to say, OP doesn't have to have read the comics to think superman is boring. Most mainstream media about him is in movies which, usually, only portray those two factors. Think of it more as OP criticizing the pop culture form of superman as opposed to comics which, tbf also do a little retconning of their own.", ">\n\nA very interesting point about Superman was made in \"Kill Bill, Vol.2,\" when Bill explains to Beatrice why she is too special to live a normal life. He says, all the superheroes put on costumes to assume the character of a superhero, except Superman. His costume is his character, and he has to put on a normal costume to not be a superhero. So he is special.", ">\n\nBack around '85 they did a reboot and John Byrne essentially wrote him as the opposite. Clark Kent was the person - Superboy didn't exist in the reboot - and Superman was the secret identity he created to do his good deeds. A much more interesting take on the character, and it made me a bigger fan.\nBill's version of events is basically Superman when poorly portrayed, which has been pretty common over the years.", ">\n\nHave you seen the movie Angus? There’s a scene about how Superman isn’t brave in there that you may enjoy. the scene" ]
> Batman is the most boring
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.", ">\n\nYour original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that.", ">\n\nI'd like to say, OP doesn't have to have read the comics to think superman is boring. Most mainstream media about him is in movies which, usually, only portray those two factors. Think of it more as OP criticizing the pop culture form of superman as opposed to comics which, tbf also do a little retconning of their own.", ">\n\nA very interesting point about Superman was made in \"Kill Bill, Vol.2,\" when Bill explains to Beatrice why she is too special to live a normal life. He says, all the superheroes put on costumes to assume the character of a superhero, except Superman. His costume is his character, and he has to put on a normal costume to not be a superhero. So he is special.", ">\n\nBack around '85 they did a reboot and John Byrne essentially wrote him as the opposite. Clark Kent was the person - Superboy didn't exist in the reboot - and Superman was the secret identity he created to do his good deeds. A much more interesting take on the character, and it made me a bigger fan.\nBill's version of events is basically Superman when poorly portrayed, which has been pretty common over the years.", ">\n\nHave you seen the movie Angus? There’s a scene about how Superman isn’t brave in there that you may enjoy. the scene", ">\n\nSuperman on his own is fine I think, any good super man story is not a test of his might, it’s a test of his morals and if he can continue being the best out of all of us. \nI think the real issue is when he’s on a team (justice league). There is quite literally no reason for him to have a team made up of people who combined do not even sniff the kind of power he has (minus maybe the flash depending on the story). That’s why in both versions of the justice league movies it’s really just a team trying to resurrect super man so he can win the fight." ]
> It’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s a stupid opinion!
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.", ">\n\nYour original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that.", ">\n\nI'd like to say, OP doesn't have to have read the comics to think superman is boring. Most mainstream media about him is in movies which, usually, only portray those two factors. Think of it more as OP criticizing the pop culture form of superman as opposed to comics which, tbf also do a little retconning of their own.", ">\n\nA very interesting point about Superman was made in \"Kill Bill, Vol.2,\" when Bill explains to Beatrice why she is too special to live a normal life. He says, all the superheroes put on costumes to assume the character of a superhero, except Superman. His costume is his character, and he has to put on a normal costume to not be a superhero. So he is special.", ">\n\nBack around '85 they did a reboot and John Byrne essentially wrote him as the opposite. Clark Kent was the person - Superboy didn't exist in the reboot - and Superman was the secret identity he created to do his good deeds. A much more interesting take on the character, and it made me a bigger fan.\nBill's version of events is basically Superman when poorly portrayed, which has been pretty common over the years.", ">\n\nHave you seen the movie Angus? There’s a scene about how Superman isn’t brave in there that you may enjoy. the scene", ">\n\nSuperman on his own is fine I think, any good super man story is not a test of his might, it’s a test of his morals and if he can continue being the best out of all of us. \nI think the real issue is when he’s on a team (justice league). There is quite literally no reason for him to have a team made up of people who combined do not even sniff the kind of power he has (minus maybe the flash depending on the story). That’s why in both versions of the justice league movies it’s really just a team trying to resurrect super man so he can win the fight.", ">\n\nBatman is the most boring" ]
> You must have lost your damn mind
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.", ">\n\nYour original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that.", ">\n\nI'd like to say, OP doesn't have to have read the comics to think superman is boring. Most mainstream media about him is in movies which, usually, only portray those two factors. Think of it more as OP criticizing the pop culture form of superman as opposed to comics which, tbf also do a little retconning of their own.", ">\n\nA very interesting point about Superman was made in \"Kill Bill, Vol.2,\" when Bill explains to Beatrice why she is too special to live a normal life. He says, all the superheroes put on costumes to assume the character of a superhero, except Superman. His costume is his character, and he has to put on a normal costume to not be a superhero. So he is special.", ">\n\nBack around '85 they did a reboot and John Byrne essentially wrote him as the opposite. Clark Kent was the person - Superboy didn't exist in the reboot - and Superman was the secret identity he created to do his good deeds. A much more interesting take on the character, and it made me a bigger fan.\nBill's version of events is basically Superman when poorly portrayed, which has been pretty common over the years.", ">\n\nHave you seen the movie Angus? There’s a scene about how Superman isn’t brave in there that you may enjoy. the scene", ">\n\nSuperman on his own is fine I think, any good super man story is not a test of his might, it’s a test of his morals and if he can continue being the best out of all of us. \nI think the real issue is when he’s on a team (justice league). There is quite literally no reason for him to have a team made up of people who combined do not even sniff the kind of power he has (minus maybe the flash depending on the story). That’s why in both versions of the justice league movies it’s really just a team trying to resurrect super man so he can win the fight.", ">\n\nBatman is the most boring", ">\n\nIt’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s a stupid opinion!" ]
> Have you heard of Doomsday?
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.", ">\n\nYour original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that.", ">\n\nI'd like to say, OP doesn't have to have read the comics to think superman is boring. Most mainstream media about him is in movies which, usually, only portray those two factors. Think of it more as OP criticizing the pop culture form of superman as opposed to comics which, tbf also do a little retconning of their own.", ">\n\nA very interesting point about Superman was made in \"Kill Bill, Vol.2,\" when Bill explains to Beatrice why she is too special to live a normal life. He says, all the superheroes put on costumes to assume the character of a superhero, except Superman. His costume is his character, and he has to put on a normal costume to not be a superhero. So he is special.", ">\n\nBack around '85 they did a reboot and John Byrne essentially wrote him as the opposite. Clark Kent was the person - Superboy didn't exist in the reboot - and Superman was the secret identity he created to do his good deeds. A much more interesting take on the character, and it made me a bigger fan.\nBill's version of events is basically Superman when poorly portrayed, which has been pretty common over the years.", ">\n\nHave you seen the movie Angus? There’s a scene about how Superman isn’t brave in there that you may enjoy. the scene", ">\n\nSuperman on his own is fine I think, any good super man story is not a test of his might, it’s a test of his morals and if he can continue being the best out of all of us. \nI think the real issue is when he’s on a team (justice league). There is quite literally no reason for him to have a team made up of people who combined do not even sniff the kind of power he has (minus maybe the flash depending on the story). That’s why in both versions of the justice league movies it’s really just a team trying to resurrect super man so he can win the fight.", ">\n\nBatman is the most boring", ">\n\nIt’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s a stupid opinion!", ">\n\nYou must have lost your damn mind" ]
> Oh look. someone is telling us they know shit all about Superman.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.", ">\n\nYour original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that.", ">\n\nI'd like to say, OP doesn't have to have read the comics to think superman is boring. Most mainstream media about him is in movies which, usually, only portray those two factors. Think of it more as OP criticizing the pop culture form of superman as opposed to comics which, tbf also do a little retconning of their own.", ">\n\nA very interesting point about Superman was made in \"Kill Bill, Vol.2,\" when Bill explains to Beatrice why she is too special to live a normal life. He says, all the superheroes put on costumes to assume the character of a superhero, except Superman. His costume is his character, and he has to put on a normal costume to not be a superhero. So he is special.", ">\n\nBack around '85 they did a reboot and John Byrne essentially wrote him as the opposite. Clark Kent was the person - Superboy didn't exist in the reboot - and Superman was the secret identity he created to do his good deeds. A much more interesting take on the character, and it made me a bigger fan.\nBill's version of events is basically Superman when poorly portrayed, which has been pretty common over the years.", ">\n\nHave you seen the movie Angus? There’s a scene about how Superman isn’t brave in there that you may enjoy. the scene", ">\n\nSuperman on his own is fine I think, any good super man story is not a test of his might, it’s a test of his morals and if he can continue being the best out of all of us. \nI think the real issue is when he’s on a team (justice league). There is quite literally no reason for him to have a team made up of people who combined do not even sniff the kind of power he has (minus maybe the flash depending on the story). That’s why in both versions of the justice league movies it’s really just a team trying to resurrect super man so he can win the fight.", ">\n\nBatman is the most boring", ">\n\nIt’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s a stupid opinion!", ">\n\nYou must have lost your damn mind", ">\n\nHave you heard of Doomsday?" ]
> OP, OP, OP You really sound like one of those people who think “grim and gritty” or “woe is me, people don’t like me (aka the “help help I’m being oppressed” X-men) is character development. Supe’s weakness is that he can not be everywhere at all times. Some of the best Superman stories deal with his struggles on how to choose who to help, how to balance his real life and needs with the universe’s need for Superman, and how To help when his powers can not. The core of Superman’s appeal is not his powers, it is that he is one of Mr. Roger’s helpers. That he is a good man who believes that people are essentially good, and all people should be equally valued whether they are rich or poor or super-powered or not. That he chooses to help people, not for fame or money but because he can help.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.", ">\n\nYour original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that.", ">\n\nI'd like to say, OP doesn't have to have read the comics to think superman is boring. Most mainstream media about him is in movies which, usually, only portray those two factors. Think of it more as OP criticizing the pop culture form of superman as opposed to comics which, tbf also do a little retconning of their own.", ">\n\nA very interesting point about Superman was made in \"Kill Bill, Vol.2,\" when Bill explains to Beatrice why she is too special to live a normal life. He says, all the superheroes put on costumes to assume the character of a superhero, except Superman. His costume is his character, and he has to put on a normal costume to not be a superhero. So he is special.", ">\n\nBack around '85 they did a reboot and John Byrne essentially wrote him as the opposite. Clark Kent was the person - Superboy didn't exist in the reboot - and Superman was the secret identity he created to do his good deeds. A much more interesting take on the character, and it made me a bigger fan.\nBill's version of events is basically Superman when poorly portrayed, which has been pretty common over the years.", ">\n\nHave you seen the movie Angus? There’s a scene about how Superman isn’t brave in there that you may enjoy. the scene", ">\n\nSuperman on his own is fine I think, any good super man story is not a test of his might, it’s a test of his morals and if he can continue being the best out of all of us. \nI think the real issue is when he’s on a team (justice league). There is quite literally no reason for him to have a team made up of people who combined do not even sniff the kind of power he has (minus maybe the flash depending on the story). That’s why in both versions of the justice league movies it’s really just a team trying to resurrect super man so he can win the fight.", ">\n\nBatman is the most boring", ">\n\nIt’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s a stupid opinion!", ">\n\nYou must have lost your damn mind", ">\n\nHave you heard of Doomsday?", ">\n\nOh look. someone is telling us they know shit all about Superman." ]
> The opinion of someone whos never read a superman comic.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.", ">\n\nYour original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that.", ">\n\nI'd like to say, OP doesn't have to have read the comics to think superman is boring. Most mainstream media about him is in movies which, usually, only portray those two factors. Think of it more as OP criticizing the pop culture form of superman as opposed to comics which, tbf also do a little retconning of their own.", ">\n\nA very interesting point about Superman was made in \"Kill Bill, Vol.2,\" when Bill explains to Beatrice why she is too special to live a normal life. He says, all the superheroes put on costumes to assume the character of a superhero, except Superman. His costume is his character, and he has to put on a normal costume to not be a superhero. So he is special.", ">\n\nBack around '85 they did a reboot and John Byrne essentially wrote him as the opposite. Clark Kent was the person - Superboy didn't exist in the reboot - and Superman was the secret identity he created to do his good deeds. A much more interesting take on the character, and it made me a bigger fan.\nBill's version of events is basically Superman when poorly portrayed, which has been pretty common over the years.", ">\n\nHave you seen the movie Angus? There’s a scene about how Superman isn’t brave in there that you may enjoy. the scene", ">\n\nSuperman on his own is fine I think, any good super man story is not a test of his might, it’s a test of his morals and if he can continue being the best out of all of us. \nI think the real issue is when he’s on a team (justice league). There is quite literally no reason for him to have a team made up of people who combined do not even sniff the kind of power he has (minus maybe the flash depending on the story). That’s why in both versions of the justice league movies it’s really just a team trying to resurrect super man so he can win the fight.", ">\n\nBatman is the most boring", ">\n\nIt’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s a stupid opinion!", ">\n\nYou must have lost your damn mind", ">\n\nHave you heard of Doomsday?", ">\n\nOh look. someone is telling us they know shit all about Superman.", ">\n\nOP, OP, OP \nYou really sound like one of those people who think “grim and gritty” or “woe is me, people don’t like me (aka the “help help I’m being oppressed” X-men) is character development.\nSupe’s weakness is that he can not be everywhere at all times. Some of the best Superman stories deal with his struggles on how to choose who to help, how to balance his real life and needs with the universe’s need for Superman, and how To help when his powers can not.\nThe core of Superman’s appeal is not his powers, it is that he is one of Mr. Roger’s helpers. That he is a good man who believes that people are essentially good, and all people should be equally valued whether they are rich or poor or super-powered or not. That he chooses to help people, not for fame or money but because he can help." ]
> Once again, the opposite of what the sub is for. This is probably the most popular opinion, and most wrong opinion, in all of comics.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.", ">\n\nYour original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that.", ">\n\nI'd like to say, OP doesn't have to have read the comics to think superman is boring. Most mainstream media about him is in movies which, usually, only portray those two factors. Think of it more as OP criticizing the pop culture form of superman as opposed to comics which, tbf also do a little retconning of their own.", ">\n\nA very interesting point about Superman was made in \"Kill Bill, Vol.2,\" when Bill explains to Beatrice why she is too special to live a normal life. He says, all the superheroes put on costumes to assume the character of a superhero, except Superman. His costume is his character, and he has to put on a normal costume to not be a superhero. So he is special.", ">\n\nBack around '85 they did a reboot and John Byrne essentially wrote him as the opposite. Clark Kent was the person - Superboy didn't exist in the reboot - and Superman was the secret identity he created to do his good deeds. A much more interesting take on the character, and it made me a bigger fan.\nBill's version of events is basically Superman when poorly portrayed, which has been pretty common over the years.", ">\n\nHave you seen the movie Angus? There’s a scene about how Superman isn’t brave in there that you may enjoy. the scene", ">\n\nSuperman on his own is fine I think, any good super man story is not a test of his might, it’s a test of his morals and if he can continue being the best out of all of us. \nI think the real issue is when he’s on a team (justice league). There is quite literally no reason for him to have a team made up of people who combined do not even sniff the kind of power he has (minus maybe the flash depending on the story). That’s why in both versions of the justice league movies it’s really just a team trying to resurrect super man so he can win the fight.", ">\n\nBatman is the most boring", ">\n\nIt’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s a stupid opinion!", ">\n\nYou must have lost your damn mind", ">\n\nHave you heard of Doomsday?", ">\n\nOh look. someone is telling us they know shit all about Superman.", ">\n\nOP, OP, OP \nYou really sound like one of those people who think “grim and gritty” or “woe is me, people don’t like me (aka the “help help I’m being oppressed” X-men) is character development.\nSupe’s weakness is that he can not be everywhere at all times. Some of the best Superman stories deal with his struggles on how to choose who to help, how to balance his real life and needs with the universe’s need for Superman, and how To help when his powers can not.\nThe core of Superman’s appeal is not his powers, it is that he is one of Mr. Roger’s helpers. That he is a good man who believes that people are essentially good, and all people should be equally valued whether they are rich or poor or super-powered or not. That he chooses to help people, not for fame or money but because he can help.", ">\n\nThe opinion of someone whos never read a superman comic." ]
> Honestly, i agree. Hes a total mary sue. If a brand new writer had written a book with a character like that, itd get laughed out of publishing. Famous content isnt always good content.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.", ">\n\nYour original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that.", ">\n\nI'd like to say, OP doesn't have to have read the comics to think superman is boring. Most mainstream media about him is in movies which, usually, only portray those two factors. Think of it more as OP criticizing the pop culture form of superman as opposed to comics which, tbf also do a little retconning of their own.", ">\n\nA very interesting point about Superman was made in \"Kill Bill, Vol.2,\" when Bill explains to Beatrice why she is too special to live a normal life. He says, all the superheroes put on costumes to assume the character of a superhero, except Superman. His costume is his character, and he has to put on a normal costume to not be a superhero. So he is special.", ">\n\nBack around '85 they did a reboot and John Byrne essentially wrote him as the opposite. Clark Kent was the person - Superboy didn't exist in the reboot - and Superman was the secret identity he created to do his good deeds. A much more interesting take on the character, and it made me a bigger fan.\nBill's version of events is basically Superman when poorly portrayed, which has been pretty common over the years.", ">\n\nHave you seen the movie Angus? There’s a scene about how Superman isn’t brave in there that you may enjoy. the scene", ">\n\nSuperman on his own is fine I think, any good super man story is not a test of his might, it’s a test of his morals and if he can continue being the best out of all of us. \nI think the real issue is when he’s on a team (justice league). There is quite literally no reason for him to have a team made up of people who combined do not even sniff the kind of power he has (minus maybe the flash depending on the story). That’s why in both versions of the justice league movies it’s really just a team trying to resurrect super man so he can win the fight.", ">\n\nBatman is the most boring", ">\n\nIt’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s a stupid opinion!", ">\n\nYou must have lost your damn mind", ">\n\nHave you heard of Doomsday?", ">\n\nOh look. someone is telling us they know shit all about Superman.", ">\n\nOP, OP, OP \nYou really sound like one of those people who think “grim and gritty” or “woe is me, people don’t like me (aka the “help help I’m being oppressed” X-men) is character development.\nSupe’s weakness is that he can not be everywhere at all times. Some of the best Superman stories deal with his struggles on how to choose who to help, how to balance his real life and needs with the universe’s need for Superman, and how To help when his powers can not.\nThe core of Superman’s appeal is not his powers, it is that he is one of Mr. Roger’s helpers. That he is a good man who believes that people are essentially good, and all people should be equally valued whether they are rich or poor or super-powered or not. That he chooses to help people, not for fame or money but because he can help.", ">\n\nThe opinion of someone whos never read a superman comic.", ">\n\nOnce again, the opposite of what the sub is for. This is probably the most popular opinion, and most wrong opinion, in all of comics." ]
> Tell me you know nothing about Superman without saying you know nothing about Superman.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.", ">\n\nYour original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that.", ">\n\nI'd like to say, OP doesn't have to have read the comics to think superman is boring. Most mainstream media about him is in movies which, usually, only portray those two factors. Think of it more as OP criticizing the pop culture form of superman as opposed to comics which, tbf also do a little retconning of their own.", ">\n\nA very interesting point about Superman was made in \"Kill Bill, Vol.2,\" when Bill explains to Beatrice why she is too special to live a normal life. He says, all the superheroes put on costumes to assume the character of a superhero, except Superman. His costume is his character, and he has to put on a normal costume to not be a superhero. So he is special.", ">\n\nBack around '85 they did a reboot and John Byrne essentially wrote him as the opposite. Clark Kent was the person - Superboy didn't exist in the reboot - and Superman was the secret identity he created to do his good deeds. A much more interesting take on the character, and it made me a bigger fan.\nBill's version of events is basically Superman when poorly portrayed, which has been pretty common over the years.", ">\n\nHave you seen the movie Angus? There’s a scene about how Superman isn’t brave in there that you may enjoy. the scene", ">\n\nSuperman on his own is fine I think, any good super man story is not a test of his might, it’s a test of his morals and if he can continue being the best out of all of us. \nI think the real issue is when he’s on a team (justice league). There is quite literally no reason for him to have a team made up of people who combined do not even sniff the kind of power he has (minus maybe the flash depending on the story). That’s why in both versions of the justice league movies it’s really just a team trying to resurrect super man so he can win the fight.", ">\n\nBatman is the most boring", ">\n\nIt’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s a stupid opinion!", ">\n\nYou must have lost your damn mind", ">\n\nHave you heard of Doomsday?", ">\n\nOh look. someone is telling us they know shit all about Superman.", ">\n\nOP, OP, OP \nYou really sound like one of those people who think “grim and gritty” or “woe is me, people don’t like me (aka the “help help I’m being oppressed” X-men) is character development.\nSupe’s weakness is that he can not be everywhere at all times. Some of the best Superman stories deal with his struggles on how to choose who to help, how to balance his real life and needs with the universe’s need for Superman, and how To help when his powers can not.\nThe core of Superman’s appeal is not his powers, it is that he is one of Mr. Roger’s helpers. That he is a good man who believes that people are essentially good, and all people should be equally valued whether they are rich or poor or super-powered or not. That he chooses to help people, not for fame or money but because he can help.", ">\n\nThe opinion of someone whos never read a superman comic.", ">\n\nOnce again, the opposite of what the sub is for. This is probably the most popular opinion, and most wrong opinion, in all of comics.", ">\n\nHonestly, i agree. Hes a total mary sue. If a brand new writer had written a book with a character like that, itd get laughed out of publishing. Famous content isnt always good content." ]
> Tell me you've never made an original comment without telling me you've never made an original comment
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.", ">\n\nYour original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that.", ">\n\nI'd like to say, OP doesn't have to have read the comics to think superman is boring. Most mainstream media about him is in movies which, usually, only portray those two factors. Think of it more as OP criticizing the pop culture form of superman as opposed to comics which, tbf also do a little retconning of their own.", ">\n\nA very interesting point about Superman was made in \"Kill Bill, Vol.2,\" when Bill explains to Beatrice why she is too special to live a normal life. He says, all the superheroes put on costumes to assume the character of a superhero, except Superman. His costume is his character, and he has to put on a normal costume to not be a superhero. So he is special.", ">\n\nBack around '85 they did a reboot and John Byrne essentially wrote him as the opposite. Clark Kent was the person - Superboy didn't exist in the reboot - and Superman was the secret identity he created to do his good deeds. A much more interesting take on the character, and it made me a bigger fan.\nBill's version of events is basically Superman when poorly portrayed, which has been pretty common over the years.", ">\n\nHave you seen the movie Angus? There’s a scene about how Superman isn’t brave in there that you may enjoy. the scene", ">\n\nSuperman on his own is fine I think, any good super man story is not a test of his might, it’s a test of his morals and if he can continue being the best out of all of us. \nI think the real issue is when he’s on a team (justice league). There is quite literally no reason for him to have a team made up of people who combined do not even sniff the kind of power he has (minus maybe the flash depending on the story). That’s why in both versions of the justice league movies it’s really just a team trying to resurrect super man so he can win the fight.", ">\n\nBatman is the most boring", ">\n\nIt’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s a stupid opinion!", ">\n\nYou must have lost your damn mind", ">\n\nHave you heard of Doomsday?", ">\n\nOh look. someone is telling us they know shit all about Superman.", ">\n\nOP, OP, OP \nYou really sound like one of those people who think “grim and gritty” or “woe is me, people don’t like me (aka the “help help I’m being oppressed” X-men) is character development.\nSupe’s weakness is that he can not be everywhere at all times. Some of the best Superman stories deal with his struggles on how to choose who to help, how to balance his real life and needs with the universe’s need for Superman, and how To help when his powers can not.\nThe core of Superman’s appeal is not his powers, it is that he is one of Mr. Roger’s helpers. That he is a good man who believes that people are essentially good, and all people should be equally valued whether they are rich or poor or super-powered or not. That he chooses to help people, not for fame or money but because he can help.", ">\n\nThe opinion of someone whos never read a superman comic.", ">\n\nOnce again, the opposite of what the sub is for. This is probably the most popular opinion, and most wrong opinion, in all of comics.", ">\n\nHonestly, i agree. Hes a total mary sue. If a brand new writer had written a book with a character like that, itd get laughed out of publishing. Famous content isnt always good content.", ">\n\nTell me you know nothing about Superman without saying you know nothing about Superman." ]
> "no u"
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.", ">\n\nYour original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that.", ">\n\nI'd like to say, OP doesn't have to have read the comics to think superman is boring. Most mainstream media about him is in movies which, usually, only portray those two factors. Think of it more as OP criticizing the pop culture form of superman as opposed to comics which, tbf also do a little retconning of their own.", ">\n\nA very interesting point about Superman was made in \"Kill Bill, Vol.2,\" when Bill explains to Beatrice why she is too special to live a normal life. He says, all the superheroes put on costumes to assume the character of a superhero, except Superman. His costume is his character, and he has to put on a normal costume to not be a superhero. So he is special.", ">\n\nBack around '85 they did a reboot and John Byrne essentially wrote him as the opposite. Clark Kent was the person - Superboy didn't exist in the reboot - and Superman was the secret identity he created to do his good deeds. A much more interesting take on the character, and it made me a bigger fan.\nBill's version of events is basically Superman when poorly portrayed, which has been pretty common over the years.", ">\n\nHave you seen the movie Angus? There’s a scene about how Superman isn’t brave in there that you may enjoy. the scene", ">\n\nSuperman on his own is fine I think, any good super man story is not a test of his might, it’s a test of his morals and if he can continue being the best out of all of us. \nI think the real issue is when he’s on a team (justice league). There is quite literally no reason for him to have a team made up of people who combined do not even sniff the kind of power he has (minus maybe the flash depending on the story). That’s why in both versions of the justice league movies it’s really just a team trying to resurrect super man so he can win the fight.", ">\n\nBatman is the most boring", ">\n\nIt’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s a stupid opinion!", ">\n\nYou must have lost your damn mind", ">\n\nHave you heard of Doomsday?", ">\n\nOh look. someone is telling us they know shit all about Superman.", ">\n\nOP, OP, OP \nYou really sound like one of those people who think “grim and gritty” or “woe is me, people don’t like me (aka the “help help I’m being oppressed” X-men) is character development.\nSupe’s weakness is that he can not be everywhere at all times. Some of the best Superman stories deal with his struggles on how to choose who to help, how to balance his real life and needs with the universe’s need for Superman, and how To help when his powers can not.\nThe core of Superman’s appeal is not his powers, it is that he is one of Mr. Roger’s helpers. That he is a good man who believes that people are essentially good, and all people should be equally valued whether they are rich or poor or super-powered or not. That he chooses to help people, not for fame or money but because he can help.", ">\n\nThe opinion of someone whos never read a superman comic.", ">\n\nOnce again, the opposite of what the sub is for. This is probably the most popular opinion, and most wrong opinion, in all of comics.", ">\n\nHonestly, i agree. Hes a total mary sue. If a brand new writer had written a book with a character like that, itd get laughed out of publishing. Famous content isnt always good content.", ">\n\nTell me you know nothing about Superman without saying you know nothing about Superman.", ">\n\nTell me you've never made an original comment without telling me you've never made an original comment" ]
> I have to downvote cause i agree 100%, there are rules to writing good characters and he breaks a lot of them… as a character, he’s boring. If he was introduced nowadays people wouldnt even give him a second look. He’s only liked because during the time period he was introduced everyone wanted the ‘perfect’ man superhero. Sorry.. perfect is boring.
[ "You would be surprised by the amount of superman comics that don't foccus on the fighting. Disregarding that you also have to keep in mind that superman level of power is not that big for the universe he lives in. There are characters that match him on a physical level and characters that go into whole new levels of power. Also red sun light and magic are superman weakness.", ">\n\nMagic you say? Pick a card.", ">\n\nI don't read comics thinking the main character is about to die. Batman is as immortal as Superman.", ">\n\nI'm not expecting the main character to die, but I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time. The superman Vs batman movie as an example, how does batman have a chance? Oh yeah kryptonite, fair. 95% of the lex luthor encounters over the years, how does he do it? Kryptonite. Over and over and over again, there's only so many times I'm gonna enjoy the same story re told to me with the same characters and plot devices before I get bored", ">\n\n\nbut I at least expect to have some tension. Superman doesn't have anything to create tension because it's either Lois lane or kryptonite the large majority of the time.\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite. Stop claiming you have read comics when everyone who knows anything about this topic can clearly tell by your lack of knowledge, you have infact NOT read the comics.", ">\n\n\nDude, Superman got his ass kicked by Darkseid in the comics. He also lost to Trigon when using magic, because Superman has a weakness to magic. He also lost to Doomsday, Parasite, Shazam, Atlas, Viking. Enchantress, and many more. And that was all without kryptonite\n\nAs a man that has no connection to both the comics and the all the other things like movies, you sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.", ">\n\n\nyou sound like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons to me.\n\nWhy? Because i have read the comics before and i'm correcting someone who is clearly wrong on the topic?", ">\n\nIt was more meant as a joke, not really as an insult. It was because of the list, not just giving a single example or two, but going on. \nAbout the topic, it's okay to correct people, that's not the problem. I'm not OP, but i also have no knowledge of Superman, so don't worry, i'll stay out of the discussion.", ">\n\nNah your good. I thought you was trynna make fun of me or some shit cause i listed off several characters from the comics who have beat Superman. I thought by you calling me \"Comic book guy\" you was trynna imply i'm some fat guy who does nothing but read comics all the time.", ">\n\nLike everyone else who says this, you obviously don't read the comics.\n\nwith only one real weakness \n\nPost-crisis there was Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mental manipulation, power drainage, and oxygen deprivation. Plus a good number of characters that could go toe to toe with him in strength.For a good 20+ years there was only one piece of Kryptonite on Earth and most of the time that was locked up in the Batcave\nOn a more abstract level he has his friends and family and his own struggles with balancing his life as Kent and Superman and dealing wiith his inability to do everything.\n\nthe same four characters\n\nLuthor, Darkseid, Brainiac, Metallo, Toyman, Zod, Cerberus, Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, Mongul, Doomsday, Parasite, Intergang, Manchester Black, and many others.", ">\n\n\"inability to do everything\" we're talking about the same guy right? Same one that traveled light years in minutes? Dude literally could do almost everything on earth at the exact same time and not even be noticed by anyone", ">\n\nHe hasn't been even close that fast in at least 40 years. He needs technology to travel long distances in space. And even if he was that fast, he couldn't approach light speed in an atmosphere without killing everyone in his vicinity.\nStop looking at his most ridiculous Golden Age and Silver Age feats as representative of what the character is", ">\n\nEven at the speed of light or short of it, he can still very easily be anywhere on the planet in less than a second. Saying he can't do everything is just blatantly wrong, dude could stop every crime in the awake half of the world in less than an hour", ">\n\nAgain, he's not that fast anymore. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. And he couldn't get to that speed without igniting the atmosphere or something equally destructive", ">\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum. He's achieved speeds plenty of times before that would make it very possible for him to do anything, anytime he wanted with no repercussions, both recently and older. I'm sorry but whatever way you look at it, your argument doesn't work. He's done plenty more insane things not involving speed which should have destroyed the planet or damaged his surroundings in some way but didn't, even if you only look at shockwaves that would be produced. That's ignoring every other factor like heat, energy, or any other kind of destructive force his abilities should produce. A 90 year old god that's been doing the same thing for 90 years just isn't interesting.", ">\n\n\nless than the speed of light isn't even an insane speed feat for superman, it's literally in the single digit percentages of his theoretical maximum\n\nAgain. Not in 40 years or more. That's silver and golden age nonsense. Stop pretending you know anything about him if you haven't read any comics made since the 70s", ">\n\nAlrighty just casually ignore the rest of the comment", ">\n\nEverything you've said is just blatantly wrong. The character has changed a lot", ">\n\n\"He's invulnerable to everything but Kryptonite!\"\nDude straight up got punched to death one time.", ">\n\nHe was the first op character back in the day so for back then he was uniqe and cool, today because there are a lot of better characters you see him boring", ">\n\nHe's been around too long in my opinion. Can only milk a character for so long", ">\n\nHere here! \nAnd when is he going to tell Louis Lane the truth, finally sleep with her, get married and have some kids, like damn lol. That's all I want to know? And why is she too slow to not notice the man is the same man without glasses. As someone who has dated a person with glasses, it isn't too hard to know who they are LOL.", ">\n\nwhen?\n8 years ago", ">\n\nRight?! I'm sitting here like \"uh... He did all that. Is this a sarcasm post?\"", ">\n\nFirst I’d say this opinion isn’t really unpopular unless you’re talking with DC fans. Second I personally feel like comics do a somewhat better job of portraying his weakness as emotional rather than physical. Like having the strength to do something but having to struggle with the issue of whether or not it would be morally acceptable for him to do it?", ">\n\n\nIf I told you I was creating a character who is virtually an indestructible god with only one real weakness\n\nHey...look...another post on unpopular opinion that is, in fact, just wrong.\nMaybe try reading the comics or watching the shows before criticizing? Supes has a whole list of weaknesses. Kryptonite is just the one that sticks out in your mind because it's unique to kryptonians.", ">\n\nIt probably just sticks out in their mind because they don't actually read any of the comic books.", ">\n\nKarma farming for fun and just makes them look ignorant.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in a time when comic books were the only medium, way back in the middle of the last century. Although they release newer version of his character and introduce new more powerful adversaries he has alot of nostalgia, evident by the red/white/blue coloring and patriotism. However if you are looking at this from a more recent generation (i.e. you were born after the 90s-2000) he comes off as goofy and overpowered. I think the bigger issue here is your perception.", ">\n\nyou have never ever read a dc comic have you", ">\n\nTell me you've never read a Superman comic without telling me.", ">\n\n“One real weakness”. Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic without telling me you’ve never read a Superman comic.", ">\n\nSuperman was created in 1933. Let that marinate", ">\n\nHis first appearance was on April 18, 1938.", ">\n\nWeren't those characters scrapped because of how poorly-received they were?", ">\n\nMaybe this makes him less boring:\nSuperman is a symbolic figure meant to represent Jewish Masculinity, and triumph against social injustice. He was created by a Jewish-Canadian Writer and Cartoonist in his youth. The character was an outlet to portray a strong male character who fights against oppression, and evil. If you pay attention, Superman has always been portrayed with dark features. Jet Black hair, Brown eyes (originally), and tawny or olive skin tone. Not so much Anglo-features. Now with the exception of Christopher Reeves. I grew up watching the animated series and remembering the Asian American Superman in the 90s, sitcom, played by Dean Cain. He is actually a biracial but yeah...\nThis was during the pre-stages of WW2 where anti-antisemitism was in vogue within Western society. If you even consider the fictional names of Superman \"Ka-Lel\" and others from planet Kyrpton, they are all supposed to mirror some real Jewish names. Superman as Clark Kent is KaLel's Earthly identity when he is attempting to integrate and culturally \"Code Switch\" into Anglo-white society, something that Jews at the time had to subscribe too. Something that other racial groups are known to do today.", ">\n\nYou only think this becuase you havent read the comics.", ">\n\nComments like this make me want to rip my hair out, the comics are what made me make this post. Did you even read the damn title Mr \"oH yOu JuSt HaVeNt ReAd ThE cOmIcS\"", ">\n\nBro you say in your comment that most of superman's fights end up with him unharmed or have him only harmed via kryptonite when in the comics there are loads of characters that can go toe to toe with him physically and hes demonstrated to have a bunch of other weaknesses outside of kryptonite. So it doesnt matter that you say \"ive read the comics\" when everything else you say suggest you dont.", ">\n\nIts the daily topic about Superman made by somebody who has never read a Superman comic", ">\n\nIt's the original comment made by the superman fanboy who can't think of anything else to say", ">\n\nCalling a comment unoriginal for suggesting your vapid opinion has no merit if you haven't read any comics is not the clever response you think it is.", ">\n\nExcept for the fact that the literal title of the post mentions the comments, and all my judgements were based off the comics. This is why it's stupid. I made this post having read the comics. Significantly.", ">\n\nYour original post reads more as if you skimmed through a few superman comics and made stupid conclusions based on that.", ">\n\nI'd like to say, OP doesn't have to have read the comics to think superman is boring. Most mainstream media about him is in movies which, usually, only portray those two factors. Think of it more as OP criticizing the pop culture form of superman as opposed to comics which, tbf also do a little retconning of their own.", ">\n\nA very interesting point about Superman was made in \"Kill Bill, Vol.2,\" when Bill explains to Beatrice why she is too special to live a normal life. He says, all the superheroes put on costumes to assume the character of a superhero, except Superman. His costume is his character, and he has to put on a normal costume to not be a superhero. So he is special.", ">\n\nBack around '85 they did a reboot and John Byrne essentially wrote him as the opposite. Clark Kent was the person - Superboy didn't exist in the reboot - and Superman was the secret identity he created to do his good deeds. A much more interesting take on the character, and it made me a bigger fan.\nBill's version of events is basically Superman when poorly portrayed, which has been pretty common over the years.", ">\n\nHave you seen the movie Angus? There’s a scene about how Superman isn’t brave in there that you may enjoy. the scene", ">\n\nSuperman on his own is fine I think, any good super man story is not a test of his might, it’s a test of his morals and if he can continue being the best out of all of us. \nI think the real issue is when he’s on a team (justice league). There is quite literally no reason for him to have a team made up of people who combined do not even sniff the kind of power he has (minus maybe the flash depending on the story). That’s why in both versions of the justice league movies it’s really just a team trying to resurrect super man so he can win the fight.", ">\n\nBatman is the most boring", ">\n\nIt’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s a stupid opinion!", ">\n\nYou must have lost your damn mind", ">\n\nHave you heard of Doomsday?", ">\n\nOh look. someone is telling us they know shit all about Superman.", ">\n\nOP, OP, OP \nYou really sound like one of those people who think “grim and gritty” or “woe is me, people don’t like me (aka the “help help I’m being oppressed” X-men) is character development.\nSupe’s weakness is that he can not be everywhere at all times. Some of the best Superman stories deal with his struggles on how to choose who to help, how to balance his real life and needs with the universe’s need for Superman, and how To help when his powers can not.\nThe core of Superman’s appeal is not his powers, it is that he is one of Mr. Roger’s helpers. That he is a good man who believes that people are essentially good, and all people should be equally valued whether they are rich or poor or super-powered or not. That he chooses to help people, not for fame or money but because he can help.", ">\n\nThe opinion of someone whos never read a superman comic.", ">\n\nOnce again, the opposite of what the sub is for. This is probably the most popular opinion, and most wrong opinion, in all of comics.", ">\n\nHonestly, i agree. Hes a total mary sue. If a brand new writer had written a book with a character like that, itd get laughed out of publishing. Famous content isnt always good content.", ">\n\nTell me you know nothing about Superman without saying you know nothing about Superman.", ">\n\nTell me you've never made an original comment without telling me you've never made an original comment", ">\n\n\"no u\"" ]