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[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal....." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job.", ">\n\nMcCarthy's entire existence has been his desire to become speaker for a long, long, time. He'd accept the job even if one of the rules were that every member had to punch him in the nads for role call." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job.", ">\n\nMcCarthy's entire existence has been his desire to become speaker for a long, long, time. He'd accept the job even if one of the rules were that every member had to punch him in the nads for role call.", ">\n\nThat speech of Jeffries was brilliant! One for the ages!" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job.", ">\n\nMcCarthy's entire existence has been his desire to become speaker for a long, long, time. He'd accept the job even if one of the rules were that every member had to punch him in the nads for role call.", ">\n\nThat speech of Jeffries was brilliant! One for the ages!", ">\n\nWelcome to the 118th House of Representatives of the United States Congress. \nFittingly on the same day 2 years prior - at 3:24 AM, January 7th, 2021, where 137 Republican House Representatives voted to overturn the prior election, invalidate 81 million American votes, and end democracy, including Kevin McCarthy.\nIt is the result of historic midterm underperformance leading to a razor-thin majority.\nWhere it takes 4 days and 14 votes to do something that has been insanely easy by both parties for the past century.\nWhere a slew of concessions makes their Speaker feckless, neutered, and vulnerable to limitless pressure from the fringes of his own party.\nNo desire to govern or help Americans, but where priorities are:\nThreatening/causing a U.S. default.\nInvestigating Hunter Biden's dick pics.\nInvestigating the investigation into themselves.\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's COVID-19 response\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's coordination with social media platforms\nLet the clown circus begin." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job.", ">\n\nMcCarthy's entire existence has been his desire to become speaker for a long, long, time. He'd accept the job even if one of the rules were that every member had to punch him in the nads for role call.", ">\n\nThat speech of Jeffries was brilliant! One for the ages!", ">\n\nWelcome to the 118th House of Representatives of the United States Congress. \nFittingly on the same day 2 years prior - at 3:24 AM, January 7th, 2021, where 137 Republican House Representatives voted to overturn the prior election, invalidate 81 million American votes, and end democracy, including Kevin McCarthy.\nIt is the result of historic midterm underperformance leading to a razor-thin majority.\nWhere it takes 4 days and 14 votes to do something that has been insanely easy by both parties for the past century.\nWhere a slew of concessions makes their Speaker feckless, neutered, and vulnerable to limitless pressure from the fringes of his own party.\nNo desire to govern or help Americans, but where priorities are:\nThreatening/causing a U.S. default.\nInvestigating Hunter Biden's dick pics.\nInvestigating the investigation into themselves.\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's COVID-19 response\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's coordination with social media platforms\nLet the clown circus begin.", ">\n\nThe U.S. House of Representatives will be paralyzed for the next two years courtesy of some of the least populated, least educated parts of the country. Un-fucking-believable." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job.", ">\n\nMcCarthy's entire existence has been his desire to become speaker for a long, long, time. He'd accept the job even if one of the rules were that every member had to punch him in the nads for role call.", ">\n\nThat speech of Jeffries was brilliant! One for the ages!", ">\n\nWelcome to the 118th House of Representatives of the United States Congress. \nFittingly on the same day 2 years prior - at 3:24 AM, January 7th, 2021, where 137 Republican House Representatives voted to overturn the prior election, invalidate 81 million American votes, and end democracy, including Kevin McCarthy.\nIt is the result of historic midterm underperformance leading to a razor-thin majority.\nWhere it takes 4 days and 14 votes to do something that has been insanely easy by both parties for the past century.\nWhere a slew of concessions makes their Speaker feckless, neutered, and vulnerable to limitless pressure from the fringes of his own party.\nNo desire to govern or help Americans, but where priorities are:\nThreatening/causing a U.S. default.\nInvestigating Hunter Biden's dick pics.\nInvestigating the investigation into themselves.\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's COVID-19 response\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's coordination with social media platforms\nLet the clown circus begin.", ">\n\nThe U.S. House of Representatives will be paralyzed for the next two years courtesy of some of the least populated, least educated parts of the country. Un-fucking-believable.", ">\n\nHey, that’s no way to talk about Oildale." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job.", ">\n\nMcCarthy's entire existence has been his desire to become speaker for a long, long, time. He'd accept the job even if one of the rules were that every member had to punch him in the nads for role call.", ">\n\nThat speech of Jeffries was brilliant! One for the ages!", ">\n\nWelcome to the 118th House of Representatives of the United States Congress. \nFittingly on the same day 2 years prior - at 3:24 AM, January 7th, 2021, where 137 Republican House Representatives voted to overturn the prior election, invalidate 81 million American votes, and end democracy, including Kevin McCarthy.\nIt is the result of historic midterm underperformance leading to a razor-thin majority.\nWhere it takes 4 days and 14 votes to do something that has been insanely easy by both parties for the past century.\nWhere a slew of concessions makes their Speaker feckless, neutered, and vulnerable to limitless pressure from the fringes of his own party.\nNo desire to govern or help Americans, but where priorities are:\nThreatening/causing a U.S. default.\nInvestigating Hunter Biden's dick pics.\nInvestigating the investigation into themselves.\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's COVID-19 response\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's coordination with social media platforms\nLet the clown circus begin.", ">\n\nThe U.S. House of Representatives will be paralyzed for the next two years courtesy of some of the least populated, least educated parts of the country. Un-fucking-believable.", ">\n\nHey, that’s no way to talk about Oildale.", ">\n\nJeffries just called out fascism and Mar-a-Lago and qanon. Dunking in the pubs hard lmao" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job.", ">\n\nMcCarthy's entire existence has been his desire to become speaker for a long, long, time. He'd accept the job even if one of the rules were that every member had to punch him in the nads for role call.", ">\n\nThat speech of Jeffries was brilliant! One for the ages!", ">\n\nWelcome to the 118th House of Representatives of the United States Congress. \nFittingly on the same day 2 years prior - at 3:24 AM, January 7th, 2021, where 137 Republican House Representatives voted to overturn the prior election, invalidate 81 million American votes, and end democracy, including Kevin McCarthy.\nIt is the result of historic midterm underperformance leading to a razor-thin majority.\nWhere it takes 4 days and 14 votes to do something that has been insanely easy by both parties for the past century.\nWhere a slew of concessions makes their Speaker feckless, neutered, and vulnerable to limitless pressure from the fringes of his own party.\nNo desire to govern or help Americans, but where priorities are:\nThreatening/causing a U.S. default.\nInvestigating Hunter Biden's dick pics.\nInvestigating the investigation into themselves.\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's COVID-19 response\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's coordination with social media platforms\nLet the clown circus begin.", ">\n\nThe U.S. House of Representatives will be paralyzed for the next two years courtesy of some of the least populated, least educated parts of the country. Un-fucking-believable.", ">\n\nHey, that’s no way to talk about Oildale.", ">\n\nJeffries just called out fascism and Mar-a-Lago and qanon. Dunking in the pubs hard lmao", ">\n\nmaturity over mar-a-lago was great" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job.", ">\n\nMcCarthy's entire existence has been his desire to become speaker for a long, long, time. He'd accept the job even if one of the rules were that every member had to punch him in the nads for role call.", ">\n\nThat speech of Jeffries was brilliant! One for the ages!", ">\n\nWelcome to the 118th House of Representatives of the United States Congress. \nFittingly on the same day 2 years prior - at 3:24 AM, January 7th, 2021, where 137 Republican House Representatives voted to overturn the prior election, invalidate 81 million American votes, and end democracy, including Kevin McCarthy.\nIt is the result of historic midterm underperformance leading to a razor-thin majority.\nWhere it takes 4 days and 14 votes to do something that has been insanely easy by both parties for the past century.\nWhere a slew of concessions makes their Speaker feckless, neutered, and vulnerable to limitless pressure from the fringes of his own party.\nNo desire to govern or help Americans, but where priorities are:\nThreatening/causing a U.S. default.\nInvestigating Hunter Biden's dick pics.\nInvestigating the investigation into themselves.\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's COVID-19 response\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's coordination with social media platforms\nLet the clown circus begin.", ">\n\nThe U.S. House of Representatives will be paralyzed for the next two years courtesy of some of the least populated, least educated parts of the country. Un-fucking-believable.", ">\n\nHey, that’s no way to talk about Oildale.", ">\n\nJeffries just called out fascism and Mar-a-Lago and qanon. Dunking in the pubs hard lmao", ">\n\nmaturity over mar-a-lago was great", ">\n\nI wanted \"Tolerance over Trumpism\"" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job.", ">\n\nMcCarthy's entire existence has been his desire to become speaker for a long, long, time. He'd accept the job even if one of the rules were that every member had to punch him in the nads for role call.", ">\n\nThat speech of Jeffries was brilliant! One for the ages!", ">\n\nWelcome to the 118th House of Representatives of the United States Congress. \nFittingly on the same day 2 years prior - at 3:24 AM, January 7th, 2021, where 137 Republican House Representatives voted to overturn the prior election, invalidate 81 million American votes, and end democracy, including Kevin McCarthy.\nIt is the result of historic midterm underperformance leading to a razor-thin majority.\nWhere it takes 4 days and 14 votes to do something that has been insanely easy by both parties for the past century.\nWhere a slew of concessions makes their Speaker feckless, neutered, and vulnerable to limitless pressure from the fringes of his own party.\nNo desire to govern or help Americans, but where priorities are:\nThreatening/causing a U.S. default.\nInvestigating Hunter Biden's dick pics.\nInvestigating the investigation into themselves.\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's COVID-19 response\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's coordination with social media platforms\nLet the clown circus begin.", ">\n\nThe U.S. House of Representatives will be paralyzed for the next two years courtesy of some of the least populated, least educated parts of the country. Un-fucking-believable.", ">\n\nHey, that’s no way to talk about Oildale.", ">\n\nJeffries just called out fascism and Mar-a-Lago and qanon. Dunking in the pubs hard lmao", ">\n\nmaturity over mar-a-lago was great", ">\n\nI wanted \"Tolerance over Trumpism\"", ">\n\nThat was an absolutely amazing speech by Jeffries. I'm glad I stuck around to watch it.\nAnd now it's time to mute and close that stream. lol" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job.", ">\n\nMcCarthy's entire existence has been his desire to become speaker for a long, long, time. He'd accept the job even if one of the rules were that every member had to punch him in the nads for role call.", ">\n\nThat speech of Jeffries was brilliant! One for the ages!", ">\n\nWelcome to the 118th House of Representatives of the United States Congress. \nFittingly on the same day 2 years prior - at 3:24 AM, January 7th, 2021, where 137 Republican House Representatives voted to overturn the prior election, invalidate 81 million American votes, and end democracy, including Kevin McCarthy.\nIt is the result of historic midterm underperformance leading to a razor-thin majority.\nWhere it takes 4 days and 14 votes to do something that has been insanely easy by both parties for the past century.\nWhere a slew of concessions makes their Speaker feckless, neutered, and vulnerable to limitless pressure from the fringes of his own party.\nNo desire to govern or help Americans, but where priorities are:\nThreatening/causing a U.S. default.\nInvestigating Hunter Biden's dick pics.\nInvestigating the investigation into themselves.\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's COVID-19 response\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's coordination with social media platforms\nLet the clown circus begin.", ">\n\nThe U.S. House of Representatives will be paralyzed for the next two years courtesy of some of the least populated, least educated parts of the country. Un-fucking-believable.", ">\n\nHey, that’s no way to talk about Oildale.", ">\n\nJeffries just called out fascism and Mar-a-Lago and qanon. Dunking in the pubs hard lmao", ">\n\nmaturity over mar-a-lago was great", ">\n\nI wanted \"Tolerance over Trumpism\"", ">\n\nThat was an absolutely amazing speech by Jeffries. I'm glad I stuck around to watch it.\nAnd now it's time to mute and close that stream. lol", ">\n\nJeffries killed that address... McCarthy couldn't follow that up" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job.", ">\n\nMcCarthy's entire existence has been his desire to become speaker for a long, long, time. He'd accept the job even if one of the rules were that every member had to punch him in the nads for role call.", ">\n\nThat speech of Jeffries was brilliant! One for the ages!", ">\n\nWelcome to the 118th House of Representatives of the United States Congress. \nFittingly on the same day 2 years prior - at 3:24 AM, January 7th, 2021, where 137 Republican House Representatives voted to overturn the prior election, invalidate 81 million American votes, and end democracy, including Kevin McCarthy.\nIt is the result of historic midterm underperformance leading to a razor-thin majority.\nWhere it takes 4 days and 14 votes to do something that has been insanely easy by both parties for the past century.\nWhere a slew of concessions makes their Speaker feckless, neutered, and vulnerable to limitless pressure from the fringes of his own party.\nNo desire to govern or help Americans, but where priorities are:\nThreatening/causing a U.S. default.\nInvestigating Hunter Biden's dick pics.\nInvestigating the investigation into themselves.\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's COVID-19 response\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's coordination with social media platforms\nLet the clown circus begin.", ">\n\nThe U.S. House of Representatives will be paralyzed for the next two years courtesy of some of the least populated, least educated parts of the country. Un-fucking-believable.", ">\n\nHey, that’s no way to talk about Oildale.", ">\n\nJeffries just called out fascism and Mar-a-Lago and qanon. Dunking in the pubs hard lmao", ">\n\nmaturity over mar-a-lago was great", ">\n\nI wanted \"Tolerance over Trumpism\"", ">\n\nThat was an absolutely amazing speech by Jeffries. I'm glad I stuck around to watch it.\nAnd now it's time to mute and close that stream. lol", ">\n\nJeffries killed that address... McCarthy couldn't follow that up", ">\n\nMcCarthy celebrating like he won in 1 round is pretty cringe." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job.", ">\n\nMcCarthy's entire existence has been his desire to become speaker for a long, long, time. He'd accept the job even if one of the rules were that every member had to punch him in the nads for role call.", ">\n\nThat speech of Jeffries was brilliant! One for the ages!", ">\n\nWelcome to the 118th House of Representatives of the United States Congress. \nFittingly on the same day 2 years prior - at 3:24 AM, January 7th, 2021, where 137 Republican House Representatives voted to overturn the prior election, invalidate 81 million American votes, and end democracy, including Kevin McCarthy.\nIt is the result of historic midterm underperformance leading to a razor-thin majority.\nWhere it takes 4 days and 14 votes to do something that has been insanely easy by both parties for the past century.\nWhere a slew of concessions makes their Speaker feckless, neutered, and vulnerable to limitless pressure from the fringes of his own party.\nNo desire to govern or help Americans, but where priorities are:\nThreatening/causing a U.S. default.\nInvestigating Hunter Biden's dick pics.\nInvestigating the investigation into themselves.\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's COVID-19 response\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's coordination with social media platforms\nLet the clown circus begin.", ">\n\nThe U.S. House of Representatives will be paralyzed for the next two years courtesy of some of the least populated, least educated parts of the country. Un-fucking-believable.", ">\n\nHey, that’s no way to talk about Oildale.", ">\n\nJeffries just called out fascism and Mar-a-Lago and qanon. Dunking in the pubs hard lmao", ">\n\nmaturity over mar-a-lago was great", ">\n\nI wanted \"Tolerance over Trumpism\"", ">\n\nThat was an absolutely amazing speech by Jeffries. I'm glad I stuck around to watch it.\nAnd now it's time to mute and close that stream. lol", ">\n\nJeffries killed that address... McCarthy couldn't follow that up", ">\n\nMcCarthy celebrating like he won in 1 round is pretty cringe.", ">\n\nEverything McCarthy does is pretty cringe." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job.", ">\n\nMcCarthy's entire existence has been his desire to become speaker for a long, long, time. He'd accept the job even if one of the rules were that every member had to punch him in the nads for role call.", ">\n\nThat speech of Jeffries was brilliant! One for the ages!", ">\n\nWelcome to the 118th House of Representatives of the United States Congress. \nFittingly on the same day 2 years prior - at 3:24 AM, January 7th, 2021, where 137 Republican House Representatives voted to overturn the prior election, invalidate 81 million American votes, and end democracy, including Kevin McCarthy.\nIt is the result of historic midterm underperformance leading to a razor-thin majority.\nWhere it takes 4 days and 14 votes to do something that has been insanely easy by both parties for the past century.\nWhere a slew of concessions makes their Speaker feckless, neutered, and vulnerable to limitless pressure from the fringes of his own party.\nNo desire to govern or help Americans, but where priorities are:\nThreatening/causing a U.S. default.\nInvestigating Hunter Biden's dick pics.\nInvestigating the investigation into themselves.\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's COVID-19 response\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's coordination with social media platforms\nLet the clown circus begin.", ">\n\nThe U.S. House of Representatives will be paralyzed for the next two years courtesy of some of the least populated, least educated parts of the country. Un-fucking-believable.", ">\n\nHey, that’s no way to talk about Oildale.", ">\n\nJeffries just called out fascism and Mar-a-Lago and qanon. Dunking in the pubs hard lmao", ">\n\nmaturity over mar-a-lago was great", ">\n\nI wanted \"Tolerance over Trumpism\"", ">\n\nThat was an absolutely amazing speech by Jeffries. I'm glad I stuck around to watch it.\nAnd now it's time to mute and close that stream. lol", ">\n\nJeffries killed that address... McCarthy couldn't follow that up", ">\n\nMcCarthy celebrating like he won in 1 round is pretty cringe.", ">\n\nEverything McCarthy does is pretty cringe.", ">\n\nThe fact that McCarthy's own party members went through this whole stupid fiasco only to end up with him still getting the position is cringe af." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job.", ">\n\nMcCarthy's entire existence has been his desire to become speaker for a long, long, time. He'd accept the job even if one of the rules were that every member had to punch him in the nads for role call.", ">\n\nThat speech of Jeffries was brilliant! One for the ages!", ">\n\nWelcome to the 118th House of Representatives of the United States Congress. \nFittingly on the same day 2 years prior - at 3:24 AM, January 7th, 2021, where 137 Republican House Representatives voted to overturn the prior election, invalidate 81 million American votes, and end democracy, including Kevin McCarthy.\nIt is the result of historic midterm underperformance leading to a razor-thin majority.\nWhere it takes 4 days and 14 votes to do something that has been insanely easy by both parties for the past century.\nWhere a slew of concessions makes their Speaker feckless, neutered, and vulnerable to limitless pressure from the fringes of his own party.\nNo desire to govern or help Americans, but where priorities are:\nThreatening/causing a U.S. default.\nInvestigating Hunter Biden's dick pics.\nInvestigating the investigation into themselves.\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's COVID-19 response\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's coordination with social media platforms\nLet the clown circus begin.", ">\n\nThe U.S. House of Representatives will be paralyzed for the next two years courtesy of some of the least populated, least educated parts of the country. Un-fucking-believable.", ">\n\nHey, that’s no way to talk about Oildale.", ">\n\nJeffries just called out fascism and Mar-a-Lago and qanon. Dunking in the pubs hard lmao", ">\n\nmaturity over mar-a-lago was great", ">\n\nI wanted \"Tolerance over Trumpism\"", ">\n\nThat was an absolutely amazing speech by Jeffries. I'm glad I stuck around to watch it.\nAnd now it's time to mute and close that stream. lol", ">\n\nJeffries killed that address... McCarthy couldn't follow that up", ">\n\nMcCarthy celebrating like he won in 1 round is pretty cringe.", ">\n\nEverything McCarthy does is pretty cringe.", ">\n\nThe fact that McCarthy's own party members went through this whole stupid fiasco only to end up with him still getting the position is cringe af.", ">\n\nShit. I thought they quit after 14. \nNone of the Reps seemed to grasp the weight of Jan 6. The vote being held hostage by MAGA terrorists, the same people 2 years ago that refused to certify the vote even after the insurrection. They have allowed this in their party. Reap what you sow." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job.", ">\n\nMcCarthy's entire existence has been his desire to become speaker for a long, long, time. He'd accept the job even if one of the rules were that every member had to punch him in the nads for role call.", ">\n\nThat speech of Jeffries was brilliant! One for the ages!", ">\n\nWelcome to the 118th House of Representatives of the United States Congress. \nFittingly on the same day 2 years prior - at 3:24 AM, January 7th, 2021, where 137 Republican House Representatives voted to overturn the prior election, invalidate 81 million American votes, and end democracy, including Kevin McCarthy.\nIt is the result of historic midterm underperformance leading to a razor-thin majority.\nWhere it takes 4 days and 14 votes to do something that has been insanely easy by both parties for the past century.\nWhere a slew of concessions makes their Speaker feckless, neutered, and vulnerable to limitless pressure from the fringes of his own party.\nNo desire to govern or help Americans, but where priorities are:\nThreatening/causing a U.S. default.\nInvestigating Hunter Biden's dick pics.\nInvestigating the investigation into themselves.\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's COVID-19 response\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's coordination with social media platforms\nLet the clown circus begin.", ">\n\nThe U.S. House of Representatives will be paralyzed for the next two years courtesy of some of the least populated, least educated parts of the country. Un-fucking-believable.", ">\n\nHey, that’s no way to talk about Oildale.", ">\n\nJeffries just called out fascism and Mar-a-Lago and qanon. Dunking in the pubs hard lmao", ">\n\nmaturity over mar-a-lago was great", ">\n\nI wanted \"Tolerance over Trumpism\"", ">\n\nThat was an absolutely amazing speech by Jeffries. I'm glad I stuck around to watch it.\nAnd now it's time to mute and close that stream. lol", ">\n\nJeffries killed that address... McCarthy couldn't follow that up", ">\n\nMcCarthy celebrating like he won in 1 round is pretty cringe.", ">\n\nEverything McCarthy does is pretty cringe.", ">\n\nThe fact that McCarthy's own party members went through this whole stupid fiasco only to end up with him still getting the position is cringe af.", ">\n\nShit. I thought they quit after 14. \nNone of the Reps seemed to grasp the weight of Jan 6. The vote being held hostage by MAGA terrorists, the same people 2 years ago that refused to certify the vote even after the insurrection. They have allowed this in their party. Reap what you sow.", ">\n\nI feel listening to minority Leader Jeffries' speech like I felt watching Obama at the DNC or Bill Clinton in the early days. I would vote for this man." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job.", ">\n\nMcCarthy's entire existence has been his desire to become speaker for a long, long, time. He'd accept the job even if one of the rules were that every member had to punch him in the nads for role call.", ">\n\nThat speech of Jeffries was brilliant! One for the ages!", ">\n\nWelcome to the 118th House of Representatives of the United States Congress. \nFittingly on the same day 2 years prior - at 3:24 AM, January 7th, 2021, where 137 Republican House Representatives voted to overturn the prior election, invalidate 81 million American votes, and end democracy, including Kevin McCarthy.\nIt is the result of historic midterm underperformance leading to a razor-thin majority.\nWhere it takes 4 days and 14 votes to do something that has been insanely easy by both parties for the past century.\nWhere a slew of concessions makes their Speaker feckless, neutered, and vulnerable to limitless pressure from the fringes of his own party.\nNo desire to govern or help Americans, but where priorities are:\nThreatening/causing a U.S. default.\nInvestigating Hunter Biden's dick pics.\nInvestigating the investigation into themselves.\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's COVID-19 response\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's coordination with social media platforms\nLet the clown circus begin.", ">\n\nThe U.S. House of Representatives will be paralyzed for the next two years courtesy of some of the least populated, least educated parts of the country. Un-fucking-believable.", ">\n\nHey, that’s no way to talk about Oildale.", ">\n\nJeffries just called out fascism and Mar-a-Lago and qanon. Dunking in the pubs hard lmao", ">\n\nmaturity over mar-a-lago was great", ">\n\nI wanted \"Tolerance over Trumpism\"", ">\n\nThat was an absolutely amazing speech by Jeffries. I'm glad I stuck around to watch it.\nAnd now it's time to mute and close that stream. lol", ">\n\nJeffries killed that address... McCarthy couldn't follow that up", ">\n\nMcCarthy celebrating like he won in 1 round is pretty cringe.", ">\n\nEverything McCarthy does is pretty cringe.", ">\n\nThe fact that McCarthy's own party members went through this whole stupid fiasco only to end up with him still getting the position is cringe af.", ">\n\nShit. I thought they quit after 14. \nNone of the Reps seemed to grasp the weight of Jan 6. The vote being held hostage by MAGA terrorists, the same people 2 years ago that refused to certify the vote even after the insurrection. They have allowed this in their party. Reap what you sow.", ">\n\nI feel listening to minority Leader Jeffries' speech like I felt watching Obama at the DNC or Bill Clinton in the early days. I would vote for this man.", ">\n\nYeah, he's got the spark. Probably the biggest winner of these 15 rounds, being nominated and praised over and over with complete unity by the Democratic party." ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job.", ">\n\nMcCarthy's entire existence has been his desire to become speaker for a long, long, time. He'd accept the job even if one of the rules were that every member had to punch him in the nads for role call.", ">\n\nThat speech of Jeffries was brilliant! One for the ages!", ">\n\nWelcome to the 118th House of Representatives of the United States Congress. \nFittingly on the same day 2 years prior - at 3:24 AM, January 7th, 2021, where 137 Republican House Representatives voted to overturn the prior election, invalidate 81 million American votes, and end democracy, including Kevin McCarthy.\nIt is the result of historic midterm underperformance leading to a razor-thin majority.\nWhere it takes 4 days and 14 votes to do something that has been insanely easy by both parties for the past century.\nWhere a slew of concessions makes their Speaker feckless, neutered, and vulnerable to limitless pressure from the fringes of his own party.\nNo desire to govern or help Americans, but where priorities are:\nThreatening/causing a U.S. default.\nInvestigating Hunter Biden's dick pics.\nInvestigating the investigation into themselves.\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's COVID-19 response\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's coordination with social media platforms\nLet the clown circus begin.", ">\n\nThe U.S. House of Representatives will be paralyzed for the next two years courtesy of some of the least populated, least educated parts of the country. Un-fucking-believable.", ">\n\nHey, that’s no way to talk about Oildale.", ">\n\nJeffries just called out fascism and Mar-a-Lago and qanon. Dunking in the pubs hard lmao", ">\n\nmaturity over mar-a-lago was great", ">\n\nI wanted \"Tolerance over Trumpism\"", ">\n\nThat was an absolutely amazing speech by Jeffries. I'm glad I stuck around to watch it.\nAnd now it's time to mute and close that stream. lol", ">\n\nJeffries killed that address... McCarthy couldn't follow that up", ">\n\nMcCarthy celebrating like he won in 1 round is pretty cringe.", ">\n\nEverything McCarthy does is pretty cringe.", ">\n\nThe fact that McCarthy's own party members went through this whole stupid fiasco only to end up with him still getting the position is cringe af.", ">\n\nShit. I thought they quit after 14. \nNone of the Reps seemed to grasp the weight of Jan 6. The vote being held hostage by MAGA terrorists, the same people 2 years ago that refused to certify the vote even after the insurrection. They have allowed this in their party. Reap what you sow.", ">\n\nI feel listening to minority Leader Jeffries' speech like I felt watching Obama at the DNC or Bill Clinton in the early days. I would vote for this man.", ">\n\nYeah, he's got the spark. Probably the biggest winner of these 15 rounds, being nominated and praised over and over with complete unity by the Democratic party.", ">\n\nRepublicans gave the democrats a chance to rally behind someone who's not a dinosaur and can probably invoke some spirit from voters. Although I think it's pretty rare that a house leader/minority leader/speaker or whatever becomes president so... although I would love to see the Republicans face if a black man was voted into the white house again. They might just completely lose it\nPlease own us more, repubs" ]

[ "If they didn’t want Jeffries to have a speech this long then they shouldn’t have given him so long to write it.", ">\n\nThat part with the ABC’s where he was like x over y and calling out Qanon, racism, fascism, Mar-A-Lago, voter suppression, and more by name was brilliant.", ">\n\nThank you! Time-stamped to perfection. It's like at the C's Republicans were starting to roll their eyes and Jeffries was \"buckle up, kids, I have 23 more of these and you're not ready.\"\nNo punches pulled. M was a nice touch.", ">\n\nhis entire speech was excellent.", ">\n\nIt really was. It was like a jolt of electricity mixed with with a breath of fresh air. Especially compared to McCarthy’s speech that was full of oppressive fear driven dictates and felt like some evil villain telling you his plan to destroy the world. Jeffries speech was full of hope and freedom and accomplishments and a vision of the future. It made me feel good inside and hopeful and thankful that we have someone as passionate about helping people as he is helming our ship.", ">\n\nthanks for some insight into McCarthy's. I had no intention to listen to bullshit after Hakeem Jeffries spoke.", ">\n\nIt's been said by a few people I saw on TV that McCarthy wanted this to solidify his legacy. Well, he sure did that. He's got his place in history.", ">\n\nThey can use his portrait for the floor mat in the men's room.", ">\n\nUrinal cakes.", ">\n\nIt means Gaetz & friends are in charge because confidence in McCarthy runs through them. McCarthy gave them everything to be speaker.", ">\n\nThey verbalize they want to save the taxpayer' money, but all they want to do is turn social security into a trough for military contract pyramid schemes.", ">\n\n\n\"It's not how you start, it's how you finish\": Kevin McCarthy\n\nGoing to age like milk", ">\n\nBruh teeing up fate like that...", ">\n\nDiving head-first into the woodchipper of fate.", ">\n\n“…No obstacle this house can over come.” The speaker of the house everyone", ">\n\nNo one ever said the speaker could speak", ">\n\nUnintended honesty… he is basically saying - even the smallest road bump will prevent this Congress from making any measurable difference over the next two years…. which is true.", ">\n\nNobody beats Kevin McCarthy 15 times in a row, nobody.", ">\n\nthe first 14 votes didn't count. He won on the first try! /s", ">\n\nCan’t help but imagine lego Batman throwing 20 bat-arangs at a button and then saying “First Try” when one accidentally falls on it.", ">\n\nI get a real kick out of McCarthy celebrating this as a victory instead of realizing it's an embarrassment. Fifteen votes and a near-fight on the floor\nIt's a pyrrhic victory at best", ">\n\nThe annoying part is McCarthy is going to act like he has a major mandate just because he won… even though the Rs performed terribly in the midterms, he barely has a majority, and this cluster fuck to get the speakership.", ">\n\nI mean beyond sham investigations into issues like Hunter Biden's dick pics - what can he really accomplish with a razor thin majority that is in civil war with itself along with the Democrats controlling the Senate and White House.", ">\n\nWhat can be accomplished? The total destruction of the US economy by refusing to pass a budget and letting the debt ceiling fall/go into default.", ">\n\nHow many Scaramucci's before the first motion to vacate?", ">\n\nLess than 5.", ">\n\n$10 it's Gaetz and a brawl happens on the floor.", ">\n\nI’d pay to see that.", ">\n\nThis might singlehandedly pay off the USA's deficit for 2023, just make it pay to view on c-span.", ">\n\nI dont know why people keep asking \"why Democrats didnt do this or that?\" or \"what could the democrats have done?\"\nRepublicans will not work with Democrats. they wont do it. There is no point in Democrats trying to do anything with them. they will get stonewalled, or lied to", ">\n\nIt's also extremely important to point to the Obama years and the fact that Republicans - in a racist fury designed to do nothing more than obstruct the extremely popular first black President of the United States's agenda - Republicans (led by Mitch McConnell whom openly said this after Obama was elected) would go on to create the most do-nothing Congress in America history. They spent eight years openly obstructing the popular business and will of the American people, simply because the President was black.\nYou cannot negotiate or work with Republicans. They are deeply racist scum that tried to elect Trump to lead a fascist takeover of the government and they failed miserably because - in an act of cosmic mercy - this generation's fascists also happen to be shockingly stupid and incompetent at anything other than grifting. All of which has been done while Republicans have seen historically low approval numbers and have been kept in power by nothing more than racist vestiges of America's slaveholding past (i.e. the electoral college, which literally only exists because slave states wanted to use their slave populations to swing elections, which Republicans use to continue disenfranchising black Americans to this day).\nThe thing I can't wait for - and we're going to start hitting this point in the next 10 years is that the boomers are going to start dying off and the Republican Party is going to start losing every single election it stands in. Millenials and Gen Z are ultra-liberal generations and are becoming even more liberal at a rate unseen in any other point in modern history. The flip is going to be intense and Republicans are going to be completely annihilated in every election in which they stand and America is going to jerk so hard to the left that not a single one of these fascist fucks will ever be allowed to have a voice in American politics ever again.", ">\n\nI hope you're right. Gen X thought the same thing and it didn't seem to happen.", ">\n\nGen X is trending conservative as they're aging. Millenials and Gen Z aren't. Gen X will be the enemy that unfortunately for them will suffer the worst of the wrath of Millenials and Gen Z for the stuff the Boomers did.", ">\n\nI remember being told \"as you grow older, you'll understand and become more conservative\". I took that as a challenge and I actively watch for signs of being curmudgeonly & stomp that nonsense out.\nHere's hoping the younger folks do better. We (as a whole) did not.", ">\n\nNo doubt about it, the older I got the more liberal I've become.\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\nI know I've never been so engaged in politics until the MAGA era started.", ">\n\n\nOr maybe... maybe I have stayed the same and the conservatives just went so far right they lost their minds?\n\nExactly this. I’m all for having different opinions, different parties, and different values in our country. We need to have discussions and even arguments to make sure our entire country is properly represented. Maybe I would have become a more classical conservative in my later years if that was still a thing, but it’s not. The conservative party is nothing more than extreme right wing authoritarians. They don’t actually care about tax cuts, smaller government, free market capitalism and the like. All they want is control and power. They believe LGBTQ people are all pedophiles and need to be locked up or worse, that non-white people are the enemy, education is nothing but indoctrination, women have become too powerful and need to be put back in their place, healthcare and food are not a right but are instead earned… the list of their frightening ideals just keeps growing. I don’t care how I’ll feel about the economy or “them kids and their weird trends” when I’m old because those have nothing to do with conservatism anymore. All I know is that I will not somehow grow into the idea of hatred towards everyone who isn’t a white male like myself.", ">\n\nCannot believe these ass clowns are pretending to respect the police on Jan 6th\nAlthough I guess it is 1am so it’s technically Jan 7th", ">\n\nCongress was in session in the early hours of Jan 7th 2021 as well.", ">\n\nThe amount of people I have seen on social media touting this as some massive win and \"owning the Libs\" is absolutely astounding, but also just the fucked up reality we live in.", ">\n\nResist the urge to explain the obvious and let them \"own\" us like this for the next two years.", ">\n\nRepublicans: cut Medicare and Social Security, default on the national debt, cause a massive recession \nElderly conservatives in red states, already struggling: Haha libs, owned!! Freedom means I get to choose between starving or freezing to death... ah, but it's all worth it as long as some kid somewhere can't access gender affirming medical care. USA! USA!", ">\n\nDid you say gender affirming care!? The Dems are trying to chop my little Bobby's dick off! They want to take his dick! They want to take your dick too! They want everyone's dicks! Nobody's dick is safe these days!", ">\n\nYes sir, and here are those pictures of Hunter Biden you wanted.", ">\n\nThe irony of Republicans rushing Jeffries to finish his speech because they’re ready to leave. Y’all had months to get in & out of the House. Sit your asses down, listen to the guy who won 10/13 house votes and stfu", ">\n\nI loved how he was all, Thanks to all the Democrats for your unanimous support! Oh, yeah. Here's Kevin McCarthy I guess.", ">\n\nWhile I dislike Kevin McCarthy, I did find his opening joke funny. \"Just a warning to Mr. Jeffries, two years ago I had unanimous support too.\"", ">\n\nIt is a fair point to make to be honest.", ">\n\n\n“Maturity over Mar-a-Lago”\n\nThink Jeffries started hitting a nerve with that one.", ">\n\nAlready with the lies. Law enforcement respected? Where were you all this morning for the January 6th ceremony?", ">\n\nIf only hypocrisy was fatal.....", ">\n\nWatching Santos raise his hand to commit to an oath to the United States, the guy who said on Monday that he already did this, is beyond silly. What an unrepentant liar and crook unparalleled to be graced with a seat in public office.\nWhat a worthless oath to witness, frankly, from many of these Republicans. Absolutely shameless.", ">\n\nThey expect him to keep a low profile and toe the party line. He’s clearly not the type. He’ll give speeches, attempt to horse trade and seek further attention in the press. He’s going to continue to embarrass himself and the party and it’ll be hilarious.", ">\n\nI'm not a birther (except in this case). But I fully expect someone to look into whether GS was born in the US as he claims. It's my understanding that you can't be a Representative if you aren't a born citizen or have been a naturalized citizen for less than 7 years. I think he has said he was born in Queens. Should be easy to verify. But has anyone? My hunch is he's Brazilian and never took any steps to be a US citizen.", ">\n\nIf he took any steps, it was his sham marriage (to obtain citizenship) that ended in 2019.\nHis second \"marriage\" charade is likely over too; he was photographed sitting in in the House without his wedding ring. I'm of the belief he was never married to a man at all and that, like everything else, was a lie, too.", ">\n\nWhat we've seen very publicly over the last few days makes you wonder about the state of the republican party behind closed doors?\nWhen there have nearly been scuffles infront of television camera on the floor of the house, what happens in the closed offices when nobody is there to witness it?!", ">\n\nThe party is in a mess because they're in a very rare state of not knowing their game plan. The DNC has always been running a sort of messy 'big tent' where they have to adjust internally but the GOP takes pride in how 'established' they are: party members are taught from town-level politics to follow the plan, work in the interests of the party over themselves and they'll be rewarded with more positions and patronage. It's why you had people like McCarthy angrily yelling 'I earned this'. It's why Republicans take every election down to city trash collector with admittedly admirable seriousness while the DNC has to put effort into getting national-level engagement. The GOP is practically a career track system. Follow your orders and your superiors and the party will tell it's loyal voters who to vote for. The voters trusted the GOP to pick the (for them) morally correct candidates. \nTrump upended all of that by bringing in the cult of personality. The idea that someone can jump the line by appealing to the voters directly. The majority of the party saw him as a catastrophic moron but the engine of the party is geared to serve the leader without question and they couldn't muster the spine to resist him till he was voted out. Now a huge chunk of their voters see the GOP as a just-as-bad-as-the-Democrats establishment and don't trust the factory-ordered old white dudes plopping off the Republican assembly line. Trump and his caucus like this anarchy because it forces the establishment wing to give them unequal power just to shut up and play along.", ">\n\nIs also add that it’s fundamentally easier for Republicans to be unified and organized than it is for Democrats. \nDemocrats, per your “big tent” comment, have to craft goals and legislation from a wide spectrum of opinions on any given concept. Republicans simply oppose things. They only thing they have any interest in actually passing is tax cuts, which of course they only do when holding a total majority since then they don’t have to compromise with Dems. Everything else is just them saying “no” to everything. Easiest job in the world. \nWhich makes this McCarthy fiasco even more amazing. The disagreement wasn’t over what leader will advance their legislative priorities, because they have none. They simply wanted the chaos. The concessions they received show that perfectly. Basically everything they “won” in exchange for their vote was in service of creating more chaos.", ">\n\nIt's also harder for them because real world problems have complexity and nuance that means no solution is without tradeoffs, so people engaging in good faith can disagree over which one is best. The gop engages with real world problems as little as possible, preferring to manufacture outrage at imagined issues it can then claim to be fighting with equally imaginary efforts.", ">\n\nAbout the supposed rules concessions:\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\n\nFreedom Caucus members having a few seats on the House Rules Committee that will allow those members to leverage certain criteria behind voting for bills.\n\n\nVoting on a bill setting term limits for members of Congress\n\n\nIndividual votes on each of the 12 appropriations bills and excluding earmarks from such bills\n\n\nA vote on legislation surrounding border security\n\n\n72-hour notice from release of legislation before voting on it\n\n\nA vote on a balanced budget amendment\n\n\nIt's important to note that while these look good on paper, realize why the HFC members demanded them. They give their little caucus a lot more power. It's not for the betterment of the country: It's for them and for them to exert their demands on legislation.", ">\n\n\nOnly one House member needed to file a motion to “vacate the chair”\n\nSo can Dems just file a motion to boot Kevin whenever they want to waste the GOP's time?", ">\n\nWere I a Rep, I'd be filing a motion first thing every morning.", ">\n\nThis just seems inevitable. I don’t really understand how this is being accepted", ">\n\nMcCarthy wanted to be speaker, THAT bad.\nHe sold his soul and all bargaining power.\nBecause this is likely the peak of his life.", ">\n\nHe'll get booted in a single day lmao\nSpeaker for a day", ">\n\nHe's going for that 'you know what they call the person with the lowest passing score on their med school exam? Doctor.' energy.\n'You know what they call the shortest-serving Speaker of the House? Mister Speaker.'", ">\n\nYeah bro you actually did give up, you gave a shit ton of concessions that weakened your ability to govern, not that you planned on actually delivering any real legislation. You are, after all a Republican, so just spout off a shit ton of social issues and talk about an open border and you'll keep getting the love and money.", ">\n\nWell the GOP was set to be ineffective this session anyway, so we should all be grateful that they spelled out how ineffective they are going to be.", ">\n\nNot even going to mention the greatest President BEFORE Lincoln, President George Santos, smh", ">\n\nI know we're not happy George Santos will get sworn in next week, but we should never forget how he saved Private Ryan.", ">\n\nHim landing on the moon was the greatest moment since his epic Stairway to Heaven drum solo", ">\n\nNo he didn't land on the moon, he landed on the asteroid and drilled/nuked it to save all of planet earth.", ">\n\nI remember that! \nGeorge Santos is also the billionaire vigilante who wears a cape and cowl and prowls the city streets at night for justice.", ">\n\nisn't Bakersfield the Florida of California?", ">\n\nYes. Meth, meth, and more meth. Oh and cows", ">\n\nI hate that he invokes Lincoln seriously. He is the antithesis of Lincoln", ">\n\nIt's a good reminder that even though Lincoln's party at the time were called Republicans, they were not conservatives.", ">\n\nWe went from Jeffries rousing speech to this wet blanket.", ">\n\nOne of his first lines was literally \"I never thought we'd get here\"\nStraight up opening by saying he had no faith in his own ability to succeed lmao", ">\n\n\"failing my way to the top\" a Kevin McCarthy story", ">\n\nInteresting that Kevin is so convinced that they will accomplish anything when they don't have control of the Senate or the Presidency. Lol.", ">\n\nKevin barely has control of the Republican side of the House.", ">\n\nHe won because he gave up so much they have control of him, rather than the other way around, I'd think.", ">\n\nThe 200 original \"yes\" votes have conceded that the 20 \"no\" votes have equal power to the 200.\nThis is Republican philosophy in action - gridlock government by completely rejecting compromise until the minority has equal power to the majority.", ">\n\nGreat speech from Jeffries.\nIt's in really harsh contrast to the Republican bullshit factory.", ">\n\nI can’t help but keep thinking about how the tea party movement really fucked up the country and will also end up really fucking up the GOP.", ">\n\nThanks a lot, Koch brothers.", ">\n\nBut McCarthy Lincoln stomped the shit out of the first insurrectionists and you supported the last ones", ">\n\nHow long before someone tries to oust him?", ">\n\nI give it until the end of the month, and that's probably being generous", ">\n\nWhat a chaotic ending! \nRepublican Mike Rodgers of Alabama had to be physically restrained and forcibly pulled away from Matt Gaetz, as McCarthy walked away in anger during the 14^th vote.^[1] Someone grabbed Rodgers face while he berated Gaetz.^[2]\nMcCarthy has had to make enormous concessions to the hard right fringe of the party, his tenure as Speaker will likely be tumultuous to say the least.\nConcessions made by McCarthy to the far-right Freedom Caucus to secure the Speaker:^[3]\n\n\nAny member can call for a motion to vacate the speaker’s chair – this is significant because it would make it much easier than it is currently to trigger what is effectively a no confidence vote in the speaker. Conservatives pushed hard for this, while moderates are worried it will weaken McCarthy’s hand.\n\n\nA McCarthy-aligned super PAC agreed to not play in open Republican primaries in safe seats\n\n\nThe House will hold votes on key conservative bills, including a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits and border security\n\n\nEfforts to raise the nation’s debt ceiling must be paired with spending cuts. This could become a major issue in the future when it is time to raise the debt limit to avoid a catastrophic default because Democrats in the Senate and the White House would likely oppose demands for spending cuts\n\n\nMove 12 appropriations bills individually. Instead of passing separate bills to fund government operations, Congress frequently passes a massive year-end spending package known as an “omnibus” that rolls everything into one bill. Conservatives rail against this, arguing that it evades oversight and allows lawmakers to stick in extraneous pet projects.\n\n\nMore Freedom Caucus representation on committees, including the powerful House Rules Committee\n\n\nCap discretionary spending at fiscal 2022 levels, which would amount to lower levels for defense and domestic programs\n\n\nSeventy-two hours to review bills before they come to floor\n\n\nGive members the ability to offer more amendments on the House floor\n\n\nCreate an investigative committee to probe the “weaponization” of the federal government\n\n\nRestore the Holman rule, which can be used to reduce the salary of government officials\n\n\n\n1) Video of the interaction, argument, and Representative Rodgers being pulled away\n2) Image of Representative Rodgers' face being grabbed and pulled by another member of his caucus\n3) CNN - McCarthy elected House speaker after days of painstaking negotiations and failed votes", ">\n\nIs McCarthy bound by those rules/an agreement? Or can he renege on them later down the line? Is there some kind of enforcement mechanism if he decides he will screw over the hardcore minority for all this headache?", ">\n\nHe could renege if he gets enough Dems to vote on a different rules package.\nThe question would be whether that would be worse, politically for him, that holding up his end.\nBut if those become rules, then if he reneges on anything he risks any one of those people forcing a vote to remove him from the Speaker position.", ">\n\nHow does a vote to remove him work? Will it be one ballot to decide whether to remove him and another ballot for his replacement?", ">\n\nIt's a \"motion to vacate\". A member would request that the motion be put to a vote and the House would vote (yes/no) on it. And then if it succeed, yes, more voting to pick someone.", ">\n\nAnd if anyone is wondering, yes - it is the full house, Democrats included that would vote. But a few caveats:\nIt can be delayed in several ways, and may never come to a floor vote.\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\nRepublicans would still need 5 votes to remove him. It has only been used once in history, suggested against Newt Gingrich, and helped force Boehner out in 2015.", ">\n\n\nDemocrats may resist it simply because it would only result in a potentially worse Speaker.\n\nSo if the rule was in effect, the dems would have a decent degree of pull with him then?", ">\n\nThe same supeonas that your caucus ignored in the past year?", ">\n\nProbably the weakest speaker to be elected, McCarthy gave so many concessions that he’ll probably be facing no confidence votes every week", ">\n\nMost since the Civil War holy shit", ">\n\nConsidering we seem to currently be in a cold civil war, not entirely unexpected\nEspecially with the infighting that's going on in one party", ">\n\nFor your consideration (and I forgot where I pulled this from, hence the quotes) - in regards to this being a 'cold civil war'?\n\"This is the norm. Our founding fathers drank heavily and regularly got in fights with each other. They slandered each other in the press. Not just on policy but personal attacks as well. When Burr killed Hamilton in a duel, Burr was the standing Vice President and Hamilton was our top military officer. That's the equivalent of Kamala Harris killing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It's just insane how the US was the truly the wild wild west even before the wild wild west. Andrew Jackson also killed many people in duels. Hamilton's son was killed in a duel as well. Nor were they even polite to each other. When John Adams was president, his rivals openly addressed him as a fatass at formal occasions. Can you imagine if Obama introduced Trump at his inauguration as President Fatass?\nWhat has happened was we’ve gotten along so unusually and atypically well for such a long time that we’ve lost perspective.\"", ">\n\nJeffries had to absolutely kill it with this speech just to rub McCarthy’s face in the shit on his way out what a legend", ">\n\nNot his way out. Jeffries being the new leader of Democrats in the House isn't gone because of him not being Speaker", ">\n\nI think they meant....on the way out the door for the night before they adjourned.", ">\n\nGaets won't go up to 16.", ">\n\nHonestly the one positive thing to me about the current government arrangement is that republicans have 2 years to expose how unhinged they are without the risk of legislation actually going through. I feel like it’s only going to get worse the longer it goes on as well", ">\n\nVoting in a speaker, past midnight, on a Friday, after 14 rehearsals, definitely isn't a good sign.", ">\n\nHi Bakersfield,\nWhy do you keep inflicting Kevin on us? Since what, like 2006? \nBlink if you're in trouble. \n-Concerned upstairs roommate", ">\n\nI think Bakersfield is punishing everyone else cuz Bakersfield sucks.", ">\n\nRich people applauding not getting audited by defunding the irs", ">\n\nThat's their first bill? Lol. Plus it'll never get through the Senate let alone past the President.", ">\n\nThe only power they will have for years is investigations that most people other than conservatives won't care about, and shutting down the government/defaulting.\nDefaulting is really the biggest issue people should worry about.", ">\n\nNow the GOP can get back to the important stuff, like bitching about entitlement, snowflakes, and participation trophies.", ">\n\nDon't forget wasteful investigations about nothing.", ">\n\nMerry Christmas - there. I said it.", ">\n\nFirst bill to cut IRS funding, wow", ">\n\nFirst bill to fail since they don't control the Senate or White House, so who cares", ">\n\nMcCarthy: the gas station ED pill of congress", ">\n\nPretty sure he's rose in a glass at the gas station.", ">\n\nI really don't think McCarthy has thought this through. Now he has to try and appease literally every member on the R side. It'll only take one of them to make a motion for him to vacate the office of Speaker. \nThings will go to a halt, democrats will be able to back that motion and then poof. Bye bye Kevin. \nNow just to wait and see which of them will do it first. My money is on Gaetz.", ">\n\nReady for the shitshow?", ">\n\nOkay Jeffries is amazing I love him just straight trolling the GOP with the length of this speech. You should see the chat in the RSBN YouTube livestream they're going CRAZY they're so mad", ">\n\nFew things get them angrier than seeing a charismatic, intelligent man of color", ">\n\nGeorge Santos looks like a character from Big Mouth come to life. It makes sense because he created the show.", ">\n\nI give McCarthy 1 month before he faces his first vote to vacate", ">\n\nA month? I'd say Monday when Matt Gaetz puts that into motion.", ">\n\nSomewhere, I imagine, John Boehner is near blackout, drinking away memories of his tenure as Speaker of the House, slowly a clear sentence emergences through the incoherent slurred babble. \"Thank fucking Christ it isn't me again,\" passes through wine-stained lips before his dumb goofy head hits the table and he falls unconscious.\nSomewhere else, an immature person thinks to himself \"hahaha we had Speaker Boner.\"", ">\n\nAt this point it's more embarrassing to him that he won... He would have been better off letting someone else have the job.", ">\n\nMcCarthy's entire existence has been his desire to become speaker for a long, long, time. He'd accept the job even if one of the rules were that every member had to punch him in the nads for role call.", ">\n\nThat speech of Jeffries was brilliant! One for the ages!", ">\n\nWelcome to the 118th House of Representatives of the United States Congress. \nFittingly on the same day 2 years prior - at 3:24 AM, January 7th, 2021, where 137 Republican House Representatives voted to overturn the prior election, invalidate 81 million American votes, and end democracy, including Kevin McCarthy.\nIt is the result of historic midterm underperformance leading to a razor-thin majority.\nWhere it takes 4 days and 14 votes to do something that has been insanely easy by both parties for the past century.\nWhere a slew of concessions makes their Speaker feckless, neutered, and vulnerable to limitless pressure from the fringes of his own party.\nNo desire to govern or help Americans, but where priorities are:\nThreatening/causing a U.S. default.\nInvestigating Hunter Biden's dick pics.\nInvestigating the investigation into themselves.\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's COVID-19 response\nInvestigating ~~Trump's~~ Biden's coordination with social media platforms\nLet the clown circus begin.", ">\n\nThe U.S. House of Representatives will be paralyzed for the next two years courtesy of some of the least populated, least educated parts of the country. Un-fucking-believable.", ">\n\nHey, that’s no way to talk about Oildale.", ">\n\nJeffries just called out fascism and Mar-a-Lago and qanon. Dunking in the pubs hard lmao", ">\n\nmaturity over mar-a-lago was great", ">\n\nI wanted \"Tolerance over Trumpism\"", ">\n\nThat was an absolutely amazing speech by Jeffries. I'm glad I stuck around to watch it.\nAnd now it's time to mute and close that stream. lol", ">\n\nJeffries killed that address... McCarthy couldn't follow that up", ">\n\nMcCarthy celebrating like he won in 1 round is pretty cringe.", ">\n\nEverything McCarthy does is pretty cringe.", ">\n\nThe fact that McCarthy's own party members went through this whole stupid fiasco only to end up with him still getting the position is cringe af.", ">\n\nShit. I thought they quit after 14. \nNone of the Reps seemed to grasp the weight of Jan 6. The vote being held hostage by MAGA terrorists, the same people 2 years ago that refused to certify the vote even after the insurrection. They have allowed this in their party. Reap what you sow.", ">\n\nI feel listening to minority Leader Jeffries' speech like I felt watching Obama at the DNC or Bill Clinton in the early days. I would vote for this man.", ">\n\nYeah, he's got the spark. Probably the biggest winner of these 15 rounds, being nominated and praised over and over with complete unity by the Democratic party.", ">\n\nRepublicans gave the democrats a chance to rally behind someone who's not a dinosaur and can probably invoke some spirit from voters. Although I think it's pretty rare that a house leader/minority leader/speaker or whatever becomes president so... although I would love to see the Republicans face if a black man was voted into the white house again. They might just completely lose it\nPlease own us more, repubs", ">\n\nIt’s a lie for him to say he opposes domestic enemies… he’s the leader of the biggest domestic threat this country has seen in over a century: the insurrectionists" ]