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I thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing."
] |
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I heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety."
] |
>
(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...) | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat."
] |
>
A lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)"
] |
>
No no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.
Of course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field... | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed."
] |
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Watch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field..."
] |
>
My brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak."
] |
>
Oh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.
“No, your son is missing.”
“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”
“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…” | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them."
] |
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I realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there? | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”"
] |
>
Initially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.
At this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?"
] |
>
The stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner."
] |
>
I love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner."
] |
>
Link? | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time"
] |
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Idk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?"
] |
>
Ooof....
Imagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea... | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria"
] |
>
It's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines.
That's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea..."
] |
>
Again, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain.
If you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes."
] |
>
Russia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand? | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time."
] |
>
Just saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.
Edit: last word | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?"
] |
>
They had hoped to be more numerous than bullets. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word"
] |
>
cheering for Ukraine all the way from America | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets."
] |
>
And Canada 🍻 | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America"
] |
>
And UK | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻"
] |
>
And France | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK"
] |
>
And Sweden | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France"
] |
>
And Germany | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden"
] |
>
And Portugal | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany"
] |
>
DaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3 | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal"
] |
>
If you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3"
] |
>
I remember all the western "military experts", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane"
] |
>
It’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt."
] |
>
"Slightly oversell" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea."
] |
>
Honestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong."
] |
>
The idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?” | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily."
] |
>
Ah, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”"
] |
>
Never trust russia. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine"
] |
>
Ukrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP! | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia."
] |
>
It is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.
This paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!"
] |
>
Let me see if I can do this without looking at the link...
"Anyone else want to negotiate?" | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element."
] |
>
nice shot guys.... slava ukraini | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\""
] |
>
That's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man... | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini"
] |
>
Trump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man..."
] |
>
And said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.
We dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine."
] |
>
And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on
He could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.
Then they'd post videos on YouTube:
"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them" - Ben Shiteatero | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt."
] |
>
"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious."
-Ben Shiteatero | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero"
] |
>
'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero"
] |
>
I have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit."
] |
>
Just remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves.
I want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime). | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon."
] |
>
This is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell) | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime)."
] |
>
Putin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)"
] |
>
I always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine."
] |
>
I’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc."
] |
>
Like the old paper signs taped on the back saying "kick me", but instead it's "kill me" | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him"
] |
>
Ukraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?
There will be no “surprise” attacks. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\""
] |
>
Hey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,
right? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks."
] |
>
I thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush"
] |
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Cut the head off the snake | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation"
] |
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Does anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake"
] |
>
I at strategy games better than that and I suck. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country"
] |
>
Oh no!
Anyway... | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck."
] |
>
Good shots | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway..."
] |
>
"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?"
"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call."
"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?"
"Uuh, Mister Putin..."
"Did I do the thing again?"
"Uh, yes, sir, you did."
"Nuts..." | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots"
] |
>
"Well, sneak attack anyway!"
"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting..."
"SNEAK. ATTACK." | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\""
] |
>
Putin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog! | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\""
] |
>
So I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!"
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"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare."
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The invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!"
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Ken Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride."
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"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!" - V. Putin | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight"
] |
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Basically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin"
] |
>
One less RU commander. Great news! 👍 | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder."
] |
>
More monsters slain, good. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍"
] |
>
Does the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good."
] |
>
I mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide? | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point."
] |
>
He’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?"
] |
>
Ah, now I get it. Thanks! | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype."
] |
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Russians = Mangalores | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!"
] |
>
Russian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be "never trust a Russian they are full of shit" | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores"
] |
>
I wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all? | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\""
] |
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“Communism was just a red herring“ | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?"
] |
>
There are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“"
] |
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I mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander? | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families"
] |
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Depends on the area. You don’t want poor troops at your hot borders. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families",
">\n\nI mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander?"
] |
>
That’s true. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families",
">\n\nI mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander?",
">\n\nDepends on the area. You don’t want poor troops at your hot borders."
] |
>
So there are orders from the top to attack during the ceasefire with the idea that "they are distracted by truce", and that would win it? | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families",
">\n\nI mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander?",
">\n\nDepends on the area. You don’t want poor troops at your hot borders.",
">\n\nThat’s true."
] |
>
What ceasefire?
The invading army doesn't get to call "time out" to resupply and catch their breath. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families",
">\n\nI mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander?",
">\n\nDepends on the area. You don’t want poor troops at your hot borders.",
">\n\nThat’s true.",
">\n\nSo there are orders from the top to attack during the ceasefire with the idea that \"they are distracted by truce\", and that would win it?"
] |
>
Ohhh. I see the miscommunication. I am talking about Russia. Did Russians get orders from the top to "attack during the "ceasefire" ,Ukraine will surely accept these terms. So when they do.. WE STRIKE and WIN!"
What was Russia's plan behind this logic? Did they think they could really win with this dumb strat? | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families",
">\n\nI mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander?",
">\n\nDepends on the area. You don’t want poor troops at your hot borders.",
">\n\nThat’s true.",
">\n\nSo there are orders from the top to attack during the ceasefire with the idea that \"they are distracted by truce\", and that would win it?",
">\n\nWhat ceasefire?\nThe invading army doesn't get to call \"time out\" to resupply and catch their breath."
] |
>
Ahh, OK, sorry, I misread.
Yeah, seriously, the Russians must have had 0 intentions of ever following through on their bullshit "ceasefire".
I have a hard time imagining that they are super eager to be on the offensive. This must have been an order from above to attack during the Christmas ceasefire. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families",
">\n\nI mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander?",
">\n\nDepends on the area. You don’t want poor troops at your hot borders.",
">\n\nThat’s true.",
">\n\nSo there are orders from the top to attack during the ceasefire with the idea that \"they are distracted by truce\", and that would win it?",
">\n\nWhat ceasefire?\nThe invading army doesn't get to call \"time out\" to resupply and catch their breath.",
">\n\nOhhh. I see the miscommunication. I am talking about Russia. Did Russians get orders from the top to \"attack during the \"ceasefire\" ,Ukraine will surely accept these terms. So when they do.. WE STRIKE and WIN!\"\nWhat was Russia's plan behind this logic? Did they think they could really win with this dumb strat?"
] |
>
I think I wrote it poorly, so that is on me.
Yeah I am with you, I can't imagine a Russian Battalion who has any energy for an offensive at this time. But they continue to surprise me even to this day. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families",
">\n\nI mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander?",
">\n\nDepends on the area. You don’t want poor troops at your hot borders.",
">\n\nThat’s true.",
">\n\nSo there are orders from the top to attack during the ceasefire with the idea that \"they are distracted by truce\", and that would win it?",
">\n\nWhat ceasefire?\nThe invading army doesn't get to call \"time out\" to resupply and catch their breath.",
">\n\nOhhh. I see the miscommunication. I am talking about Russia. Did Russians get orders from the top to \"attack during the \"ceasefire\" ,Ukraine will surely accept these terms. So when they do.. WE STRIKE and WIN!\"\nWhat was Russia's plan behind this logic? Did they think they could really win with this dumb strat?",
">\n\nAhh, OK, sorry, I misread.\nYeah, seriously, the Russians must have had 0 intentions of ever following through on their bullshit \"ceasefire\".\nI have a hard time imagining that they are super eager to be on the offensive. This must have been an order from above to attack during the Christmas ceasefire."
] |
>
Funnily enough you're both wrong. Yes Putin announced a ceasefire for Orthodox Christmas but Ukraine immediately and publically rejected it. So I imagine the Russian's shrugged and decided to keep bombing. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families",
">\n\nI mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander?",
">\n\nDepends on the area. You don’t want poor troops at your hot borders.",
">\n\nThat’s true.",
">\n\nSo there are orders from the top to attack during the ceasefire with the idea that \"they are distracted by truce\", and that would win it?",
">\n\nWhat ceasefire?\nThe invading army doesn't get to call \"time out\" to resupply and catch their breath.",
">\n\nOhhh. I see the miscommunication. I am talking about Russia. Did Russians get orders from the top to \"attack during the \"ceasefire\" ,Ukraine will surely accept these terms. So when they do.. WE STRIKE and WIN!\"\nWhat was Russia's plan behind this logic? Did they think they could really win with this dumb strat?",
">\n\nAhh, OK, sorry, I misread.\nYeah, seriously, the Russians must have had 0 intentions of ever following through on their bullshit \"ceasefire\".\nI have a hard time imagining that they are super eager to be on the offensive. This must have been an order from above to attack during the Christmas ceasefire.",
">\n\nI think I wrote it poorly, so that is on me.\nYeah I am with you, I can't imagine a Russian Battalion who has any energy for an offensive at this time. But they continue to surprise me even to this day."
] |
>
Technically, aren’t all soldiers on the front line “border guards”?
(Edit: This is not meant as a serious comment) | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families",
">\n\nI mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander?",
">\n\nDepends on the area. You don’t want poor troops at your hot borders.",
">\n\nThat’s true.",
">\n\nSo there are orders from the top to attack during the ceasefire with the idea that \"they are distracted by truce\", and that would win it?",
">\n\nWhat ceasefire?\nThe invading army doesn't get to call \"time out\" to resupply and catch their breath.",
">\n\nOhhh. I see the miscommunication. I am talking about Russia. Did Russians get orders from the top to \"attack during the \"ceasefire\" ,Ukraine will surely accept these terms. So when they do.. WE STRIKE and WIN!\"\nWhat was Russia's plan behind this logic? Did they think they could really win with this dumb strat?",
">\n\nAhh, OK, sorry, I misread.\nYeah, seriously, the Russians must have had 0 intentions of ever following through on their bullshit \"ceasefire\".\nI have a hard time imagining that they are super eager to be on the offensive. This must have been an order from above to attack during the Christmas ceasefire.",
">\n\nI think I wrote it poorly, so that is on me.\nYeah I am with you, I can't imagine a Russian Battalion who has any energy for an offensive at this time. But they continue to surprise me even to this day.",
">\n\nFunnily enough you're both wrong. Yes Putin announced a ceasefire for Orthodox Christmas but Ukraine immediately and publically rejected it. So I imagine the Russian's shrugged and decided to keep bombing."
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No. Not those ordered to invade. The Russians got killed at the border were at the border too. | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families",
">\n\nI mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander?",
">\n\nDepends on the area. You don’t want poor troops at your hot borders.",
">\n\nThat’s true.",
">\n\nSo there are orders from the top to attack during the ceasefire with the idea that \"they are distracted by truce\", and that would win it?",
">\n\nWhat ceasefire?\nThe invading army doesn't get to call \"time out\" to resupply and catch their breath.",
">\n\nOhhh. I see the miscommunication. I am talking about Russia. Did Russians get orders from the top to \"attack during the \"ceasefire\" ,Ukraine will surely accept these terms. So when they do.. WE STRIKE and WIN!\"\nWhat was Russia's plan behind this logic? Did they think they could really win with this dumb strat?",
">\n\nAhh, OK, sorry, I misread.\nYeah, seriously, the Russians must have had 0 intentions of ever following through on their bullshit \"ceasefire\".\nI have a hard time imagining that they are super eager to be on the offensive. This must have been an order from above to attack during the Christmas ceasefire.",
">\n\nI think I wrote it poorly, so that is on me.\nYeah I am with you, I can't imagine a Russian Battalion who has any energy for an offensive at this time. But they continue to surprise me even to this day.",
">\n\nFunnily enough you're both wrong. Yes Putin announced a ceasefire for Orthodox Christmas but Ukraine immediately and publically rejected it. So I imagine the Russian's shrugged and decided to keep bombing.",
">\n\nTechnically, aren’t all soldiers on the front line “border guards”?\n(Edit: This is not meant as a serious comment)"
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Optimum Barrel Time! | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families",
">\n\nI mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander?",
">\n\nDepends on the area. You don’t want poor troops at your hot borders.",
">\n\nThat’s true.",
">\n\nSo there are orders from the top to attack during the ceasefire with the idea that \"they are distracted by truce\", and that would win it?",
">\n\nWhat ceasefire?\nThe invading army doesn't get to call \"time out\" to resupply and catch their breath.",
">\n\nOhhh. I see the miscommunication. I am talking about Russia. Did Russians get orders from the top to \"attack during the \"ceasefire\" ,Ukraine will surely accept these terms. So when they do.. WE STRIKE and WIN!\"\nWhat was Russia's plan behind this logic? Did they think they could really win with this dumb strat?",
">\n\nAhh, OK, sorry, I misread.\nYeah, seriously, the Russians must have had 0 intentions of ever following through on their bullshit \"ceasefire\".\nI have a hard time imagining that they are super eager to be on the offensive. This must have been an order from above to attack during the Christmas ceasefire.",
">\n\nI think I wrote it poorly, so that is on me.\nYeah I am with you, I can't imagine a Russian Battalion who has any energy for an offensive at this time. But they continue to surprise me even to this day.",
">\n\nFunnily enough you're both wrong. Yes Putin announced a ceasefire for Orthodox Christmas but Ukraine immediately and publically rejected it. So I imagine the Russian's shrugged and decided to keep bombing.",
">\n\nTechnically, aren’t all soldiers on the front line “border guards”?\n(Edit: This is not meant as a serious comment)",
">\n\nNo. Not those ordered to invade. The Russians got killed at the border were at the border too."
] |
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Why would there be border guards in Bakhmut? Am I missing something? | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families",
">\n\nI mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander?",
">\n\nDepends on the area. You don’t want poor troops at your hot borders.",
">\n\nThat’s true.",
">\n\nSo there are orders from the top to attack during the ceasefire with the idea that \"they are distracted by truce\", and that would win it?",
">\n\nWhat ceasefire?\nThe invading army doesn't get to call \"time out\" to resupply and catch their breath.",
">\n\nOhhh. I see the miscommunication. I am talking about Russia. Did Russians get orders from the top to \"attack during the \"ceasefire\" ,Ukraine will surely accept these terms. So when they do.. WE STRIKE and WIN!\"\nWhat was Russia's plan behind this logic? Did they think they could really win with this dumb strat?",
">\n\nAhh, OK, sorry, I misread.\nYeah, seriously, the Russians must have had 0 intentions of ever following through on their bullshit \"ceasefire\".\nI have a hard time imagining that they are super eager to be on the offensive. This must have been an order from above to attack during the Christmas ceasefire.",
">\n\nI think I wrote it poorly, so that is on me.\nYeah I am with you, I can't imagine a Russian Battalion who has any energy for an offensive at this time. But they continue to surprise me even to this day.",
">\n\nFunnily enough you're both wrong. Yes Putin announced a ceasefire for Orthodox Christmas but Ukraine immediately and publically rejected it. So I imagine the Russian's shrugged and decided to keep bombing.",
">\n\nTechnically, aren’t all soldiers on the front line “border guards”?\n(Edit: This is not meant as a serious comment)",
">\n\nNo. Not those ordered to invade. The Russians got killed at the border were at the border too.",
">\n\nOptimum Barrel Time!"
] |
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Like that it’s on the edge of Russian occupied territory? | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families",
">\n\nI mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander?",
">\n\nDepends on the area. You don’t want poor troops at your hot borders.",
">\n\nThat’s true.",
">\n\nSo there are orders from the top to attack during the ceasefire with the idea that \"they are distracted by truce\", and that would win it?",
">\n\nWhat ceasefire?\nThe invading army doesn't get to call \"time out\" to resupply and catch their breath.",
">\n\nOhhh. I see the miscommunication. I am talking about Russia. Did Russians get orders from the top to \"attack during the \"ceasefire\" ,Ukraine will surely accept these terms. So when they do.. WE STRIKE and WIN!\"\nWhat was Russia's plan behind this logic? Did they think they could really win with this dumb strat?",
">\n\nAhh, OK, sorry, I misread.\nYeah, seriously, the Russians must have had 0 intentions of ever following through on their bullshit \"ceasefire\".\nI have a hard time imagining that they are super eager to be on the offensive. This must have been an order from above to attack during the Christmas ceasefire.",
">\n\nI think I wrote it poorly, so that is on me.\nYeah I am with you, I can't imagine a Russian Battalion who has any energy for an offensive at this time. But they continue to surprise me even to this day.",
">\n\nFunnily enough you're both wrong. Yes Putin announced a ceasefire for Orthodox Christmas but Ukraine immediately and publically rejected it. So I imagine the Russian's shrugged and decided to keep bombing.",
">\n\nTechnically, aren’t all soldiers on the front line “border guards”?\n(Edit: This is not meant as a serious comment)",
">\n\nNo. Not those ordered to invade. The Russians got killed at the border were at the border too.",
">\n\nOptimum Barrel Time!",
">\n\nWhy would there be border guards in Bakhmut? Am I missing something?"
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Well yeah, but why send border guards to a non existing border? Wouldn't that mean that Ukraine recognizes the independence of a separatist Donetsk republic? | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families",
">\n\nI mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander?",
">\n\nDepends on the area. You don’t want poor troops at your hot borders.",
">\n\nThat’s true.",
">\n\nSo there are orders from the top to attack during the ceasefire with the idea that \"they are distracted by truce\", and that would win it?",
">\n\nWhat ceasefire?\nThe invading army doesn't get to call \"time out\" to resupply and catch their breath.",
">\n\nOhhh. I see the miscommunication. I am talking about Russia. Did Russians get orders from the top to \"attack during the \"ceasefire\" ,Ukraine will surely accept these terms. So when they do.. WE STRIKE and WIN!\"\nWhat was Russia's plan behind this logic? Did they think they could really win with this dumb strat?",
">\n\nAhh, OK, sorry, I misread.\nYeah, seriously, the Russians must have had 0 intentions of ever following through on their bullshit \"ceasefire\".\nI have a hard time imagining that they are super eager to be on the offensive. This must have been an order from above to attack during the Christmas ceasefire.",
">\n\nI think I wrote it poorly, so that is on me.\nYeah I am with you, I can't imagine a Russian Battalion who has any energy for an offensive at this time. But they continue to surprise me even to this day.",
">\n\nFunnily enough you're both wrong. Yes Putin announced a ceasefire for Orthodox Christmas but Ukraine immediately and publically rejected it. So I imagine the Russian's shrugged and decided to keep bombing.",
">\n\nTechnically, aren’t all soldiers on the front line “border guards”?\n(Edit: This is not meant as a serious comment)",
">\n\nNo. Not those ordered to invade. The Russians got killed at the border were at the border too.",
">\n\nOptimum Barrel Time!",
">\n\nWhy would there be border guards in Bakhmut? Am I missing something?",
">\n\nLike that it’s on the edge of Russian occupied territory?"
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Just because you're part of the border guard doesn't mean you can't be redeployed somewhere else. Marines also don't always fight near water...
This article refers to a sniper unit from the border guard that got redeployed to Bakhmut | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families",
">\n\nI mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander?",
">\n\nDepends on the area. You don’t want poor troops at your hot borders.",
">\n\nThat’s true.",
">\n\nSo there are orders from the top to attack during the ceasefire with the idea that \"they are distracted by truce\", and that would win it?",
">\n\nWhat ceasefire?\nThe invading army doesn't get to call \"time out\" to resupply and catch their breath.",
">\n\nOhhh. I see the miscommunication. I am talking about Russia. Did Russians get orders from the top to \"attack during the \"ceasefire\" ,Ukraine will surely accept these terms. So when they do.. WE STRIKE and WIN!\"\nWhat was Russia's plan behind this logic? Did they think they could really win with this dumb strat?",
">\n\nAhh, OK, sorry, I misread.\nYeah, seriously, the Russians must have had 0 intentions of ever following through on their bullshit \"ceasefire\".\nI have a hard time imagining that they are super eager to be on the offensive. This must have been an order from above to attack during the Christmas ceasefire.",
">\n\nI think I wrote it poorly, so that is on me.\nYeah I am with you, I can't imagine a Russian Battalion who has any energy for an offensive at this time. But they continue to surprise me even to this day.",
">\n\nFunnily enough you're both wrong. Yes Putin announced a ceasefire for Orthodox Christmas but Ukraine immediately and publically rejected it. So I imagine the Russian's shrugged and decided to keep bombing.",
">\n\nTechnically, aren’t all soldiers on the front line “border guards”?\n(Edit: This is not meant as a serious comment)",
">\n\nNo. Not those ordered to invade. The Russians got killed at the border were at the border too.",
">\n\nOptimum Barrel Time!",
">\n\nWhy would there be border guards in Bakhmut? Am I missing something?",
">\n\nLike that it’s on the edge of Russian occupied territory?",
">\n\nWell yeah, but why send border guards to a non existing border? Wouldn't that mean that Ukraine recognizes the independence of a separatist Donetsk republic?"
] |
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they have been eliminating commanders and generals of the Russian army dice pretty much day 1. nothing surprising here! | [
"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families",
">\n\nI mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander?",
">\n\nDepends on the area. You don’t want poor troops at your hot borders.",
">\n\nThat’s true.",
">\n\nSo there are orders from the top to attack during the ceasefire with the idea that \"they are distracted by truce\", and that would win it?",
">\n\nWhat ceasefire?\nThe invading army doesn't get to call \"time out\" to resupply and catch their breath.",
">\n\nOhhh. I see the miscommunication. I am talking about Russia. Did Russians get orders from the top to \"attack during the \"ceasefire\" ,Ukraine will surely accept these terms. So when they do.. WE STRIKE and WIN!\"\nWhat was Russia's plan behind this logic? Did they think they could really win with this dumb strat?",
">\n\nAhh, OK, sorry, I misread.\nYeah, seriously, the Russians must have had 0 intentions of ever following through on their bullshit \"ceasefire\".\nI have a hard time imagining that they are super eager to be on the offensive. This must have been an order from above to attack during the Christmas ceasefire.",
">\n\nI think I wrote it poorly, so that is on me.\nYeah I am with you, I can't imagine a Russian Battalion who has any energy for an offensive at this time. But they continue to surprise me even to this day.",
">\n\nFunnily enough you're both wrong. Yes Putin announced a ceasefire for Orthodox Christmas but Ukraine immediately and publically rejected it. So I imagine the Russian's shrugged and decided to keep bombing.",
">\n\nTechnically, aren’t all soldiers on the front line “border guards”?\n(Edit: This is not meant as a serious comment)",
">\n\nNo. Not those ordered to invade. The Russians got killed at the border were at the border too.",
">\n\nOptimum Barrel Time!",
">\n\nWhy would there be border guards in Bakhmut? Am I missing something?",
">\n\nLike that it’s on the edge of Russian occupied territory?",
">\n\nWell yeah, but why send border guards to a non existing border? Wouldn't that mean that Ukraine recognizes the independence of a separatist Donetsk republic?",
">\n\nJust because you're part of the border guard doesn't mean you can't be redeployed somewhere else. Marines also don't always fight near water...\nThis article refers to a sniper unit from the border guard that got redeployed to Bakhmut"
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"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families",
">\n\nI mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander?",
">\n\nDepends on the area. You don’t want poor troops at your hot borders.",
">\n\nThat’s true.",
">\n\nSo there are orders from the top to attack during the ceasefire with the idea that \"they are distracted by truce\", and that would win it?",
">\n\nWhat ceasefire?\nThe invading army doesn't get to call \"time out\" to resupply and catch their breath.",
">\n\nOhhh. I see the miscommunication. I am talking about Russia. Did Russians get orders from the top to \"attack during the \"ceasefire\" ,Ukraine will surely accept these terms. So when they do.. WE STRIKE and WIN!\"\nWhat was Russia's plan behind this logic? Did they think they could really win with this dumb strat?",
">\n\nAhh, OK, sorry, I misread.\nYeah, seriously, the Russians must have had 0 intentions of ever following through on their bullshit \"ceasefire\".\nI have a hard time imagining that they are super eager to be on the offensive. This must have been an order from above to attack during the Christmas ceasefire.",
">\n\nI think I wrote it poorly, so that is on me.\nYeah I am with you, I can't imagine a Russian Battalion who has any energy for an offensive at this time. But they continue to surprise me even to this day.",
">\n\nFunnily enough you're both wrong. Yes Putin announced a ceasefire for Orthodox Christmas but Ukraine immediately and publically rejected it. So I imagine the Russian's shrugged and decided to keep bombing.",
">\n\nTechnically, aren’t all soldiers on the front line “border guards”?\n(Edit: This is not meant as a serious comment)",
">\n\nNo. Not those ordered to invade. The Russians got killed at the border were at the border too.",
">\n\nOptimum Barrel Time!",
">\n\nWhy would there be border guards in Bakhmut? Am I missing something?",
">\n\nLike that it’s on the edge of Russian occupied territory?",
">\n\nWell yeah, but why send border guards to a non existing border? Wouldn't that mean that Ukraine recognizes the independence of a separatist Donetsk republic?",
">\n\nJust because you're part of the border guard doesn't mean you can't be redeployed somewhere else. Marines also don't always fight near water...\nThis article refers to a sniper unit from the border guard that got redeployed to Bakhmut",
">\n\nthey have been eliminating commanders and generals of the Russian army dice pretty much day 1. nothing surprising here!"
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"Their \"surprise\" attack during ceasefire was the least surprising part of the invasion so far.",
">\n\nI was 100% certain that their plan was to do a surprise attack. It was obviously foreshadowed, but they already showed us how bad they are at hiding things during the lead up to the invasion.",
">\n\nI wonder how many people have been purged from within the Russia's military intelligence / planning at this point.\nIt seems all of their plans have been leaked in advance since before this war. They have to be going nuts trying to find a mole. I mean look at how much Elon Musk loses his shit over employee leaks and then times that by military Intel.",
">\n\nI think there was no leaks. Just poor operational security and overconfidence.",
">\n\nWould be hilarious if they're executing people they suspect of being moles when really the only mole is their poor operational security and telegraphing their every move",
">\n\nWouldn’t surprise me at all if the US can read every single Russian communication and is just passing that info along to the Ukrainians.",
">\n\nThat's pretty much how it has seemed over the past year",
">\n\nIf that's the case then they're using it beautifully to keep the Russian government paranoid. More than once comments from people in the US government have mentioned a \"source\" in Russia, which is vague enough to include a possible mole or a well placed wiretap. It's chef's kiss",
">\n\nHot Take: Apparently a decent chunk of their MIC runs on O365. This may or may not be related to the subject at hand.",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nI hope they rotate \"commander\" in that unit.",
">\n\nI hope that unit does what's best for them and just disband.\nThrow your hands up to surrender for God's sakes! You guys are just pawns on Putin's chessboard, and Putin's no ~~Magnussen~~ Magnus Carlsen.",
">\n\nyou mean Magnus Carlsen, the Norwegian chess world champion? Magnussen is a Danish formula 1 driver",
">\n\nOops. Yes lol",
">\n\nI think you've just invented a new sport, Formula 1 but every lap they jump out and make a move on a chessboard, faster guy gets more moves but the slower guy can still clench it if he's really good at chess.",
">\n\nSo chess boxing but with driving instead of boxing",
">\n\nWhy not all 3? Best triathlon ever",
">\n\nMaybe, but it doesn't work as well as you'd think. If I remember correctly, the whole sport got scrapped because it turns out that its easier for a good boxer to simply not lose in the first few rounds of chess than it is for a good chess player to not get the shit beaten out of him in a few rounds of boxing.",
">\n\nI thought the ceasefire was a ploy to set the current boundaries as the default going forward, but I guess I have Putin too much credit for subtlety.",
">\n\nI heard it was a ploy to make Ukraine look like the aggressor since they wouldn’t accept the cease fire. Tbh it was probably a lot of ploys hidden in a trench coat.",
">\n\n(That's why they told Forrest Gump not to salute officers...)",
">\n\nA lot of strict military rules are temporarily stopped when deployed.",
">\n\nNo no, this is military courtesy. Saluting an officer in the field makes them obvious to anyone watching - i.e. enemy snipers. That means it's not the done thing.\nOf course, if a unit hates an officer, they might begin making a point of saluting them in the field...",
">\n\nWatch Russia refuse to compensate their soldier’s families because “this actually occurred during a ceasefire.” Christ this is bleak.",
">\n\nMy brother in orthodoxy, the Russian government is doing significantly worse things to and for their citizens than not paying them.",
">\n\nOh I know. But after watching all those Russian propaganda advertisements pretty much telling them to join the military to escape financial woes, it makes the whole situation seem so much scummier.\n“No, your son is missing.”\n“No, your son was killed during a ceasefire.”\n“No, your son defected and we cannot find his body…”",
">\n\nI realize I have zero military strategy knowledge but looking at a map I just can't see the importance of Bakhmut to the Russians. Is there a washing machine factory there?",
">\n\nInitially the Russians planned to use it as a staging area for more high profile targets in the region, however Ukraine has more or less made that plan infeasible now.\nAt this point the only reason they're still trying to take it is because it's one of the only areas they can claim to be on the offense and because if they back down it'll be a huge blow to the reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nThe stellar, enviable reputation of Wagner.",
">\n\nI love remembering how the US military obliterated them that one time",
">\n\nLink?",
">\n\nIdk but you could probably find it easily, it's the one where they wouldnt back off after several warnings so they got lit up and like 200 people died, it was in the middle east probably syria",
">\n\nOoof....\nImagine thinking walking together single file against a modern enemy would be a good idea...",
">\n\nIt's pretty common when the ground is covered with cluster bombs and mines. \nThat's the point of mines, to force attackers to go slow and stick to cleared lanes.",
">\n\nAgain, it's 2023 now.... Bring some FLIR and do some route reconnaissance prior to inserting into known unfriendly terrain. \nIf you're going into a fatal funnel, or being forced into a shitty position where there is minimal cover and an enemy occupied elevated position... You're gonna have a bad time.",
">\n\nRussia's breaking out leftover equipment from early in the Cold War to supply their troops and you're expecting them to have FLIR or an equivalent on hand?",
">\n\nJust saying that not having modern equipment or any tactics devised within the past 70 years means they may as well have never stepped off to face a modernly equipped foe.\nEdit: last word",
">\n\nThey had hoped to be more numerous than bullets.",
">\n\ncheering for Ukraine all the way from America",
">\n\nAnd Canada 🍻",
">\n\nAnd UK",
">\n\nAnd France",
">\n\nAnd Sweden",
">\n\nAnd Germany",
">\n\nAnd Portugal",
">\n\nDaftPunk-AllAroundTheWorld.mp3",
">\n\nIf you'd told me that Russia would invade Ukraine using Stalin-era tactics 5 years ago, I'd have said you were insane",
">\n\nI remember all the western \"military experts\", and Putin fan boys, talking about how Russia could reach Berlin in a week before the war. It has been almost a year, and 100,000 dead Russian soldiers, and Russia can't even reach the Dnieper. From now now I will take anything coming from a military analyst with a giant grain of salt.",
">\n\nIt’s usually better for analysts to slightly oversell adversary capabilities than to undersell them. Plus, it’s been a hot second since large scale combat operations between 2 conventional forces has been observed. It’s mostly been Russian hybrid war in the last several years in Syria and crimea.",
">\n\n\"Slightly oversell\" is a bit of an understatement. I am pretty confident in saying that they were wrong.",
">\n\nHonestly, this concept somewhat scares me. Either the US has been way over militarizing with the justification that 'our enemies are strong' or we've had bad intel for years. I find the first more likely, and it's concerning knowing there isn't another nation out there that compares militarily.",
">\n\nThe idea with the US military strength is to apply incredible amounts of power incredibly quickly in an attempt to end a conflict as soon as it starts. Preferably the conflict doesn’t start at all, which is also the US doctrine of “look at this dick. Just. Look at it. Are you sure you want to do something?”",
">\n\nAh, the Lyndon Johnson doctrine",
">\n\nNever trust russia.",
">\n\nUkrainian: that is a nice general you have it here. POP!",
">\n\n\nIt is noted that while watching the enemy, the snipers defined the head of the unit and eliminated the commander and a machine gunner with well-aimed shots. Having lost the commander, the invaders were afraid to attack and fled.\n\nThis paragraph reminded me of this scene from The Fifth Element.",
">\n\nLet me see if I can do this without looking at the link...\n\"Anyone else want to negotiate?\"",
">\n\nnice shot guys.... slava ukraini",
">\n\nThat's why I say hey man nice shot... What a good shot man...",
">\n\nTrump insisted that Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine.",
">\n\nAnd said he wished he used the same tactics to have America invade Mexico, if I remember correctly. And yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on.\nWe dodged a bullet, getting Biden in office when he did. He may not be all that hot of a president but at least he isn't... that. If Trump was in office we'd probably be backing Russia's return to the times of 'right of conquest' to the hilt.",
">\n\n\nAnd yet a very large percentage of the American public would hear that and still cheer him on\n\nHe could eat his shit on live TV and some of his supporters would rationalize.\nThen they'd post videos on YouTube:\n\"Liberal campus BTFO by vomit as I eat my own shit in front of them\" - Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n\"If shit comes out of our bodies, why aren't we supposed to eat it? Curious.\"\n-Ben Shiteatero",
">\n\n'We're apparently just supposed to accept that eating our own shit is bad. Because generations of libs have told us that and our communist teachers have forced that uninformed government opinion on us as children, which is a ACTUALLY a form of child grooming by the left' .. raises one eyebrow and looks confused .. . Tucker Carlshit.",
">\n\nI have to admit, it's kind of fun watching Russia commit suicide. Here's hoping the entire country falls soon.",
">\n\nJust remember, they are killing innocent civilians and Ukrainian troops almost as fast as they are getting killed themselves. \nI want to see Putin and his cronies gone, but I’d rather that comes now than continue to see both countries destroyed (Russia has good people and it has a lot of potential if it weren’t for this disaster of a regime).",
">\n\nThis is one thing I feel like doesn’t get emphasized enough: we only hear about the Russian dead, but never about Ukrainian losses. This is a hard-fought battle, and Ukraine is losing lots of men as well (though not as much as Russia, from what we can tell)",
">\n\nPutin has no intention of releasing territory. The Russians must be defeated and driven out of Ukraine.",
">\n\nI always assume that Russia wanted to cease fire so they could get their act together, move their resources around etc.",
">\n\nI’d like to imagine the other units in the troops put hidden signs that says “this is the commander” whenever the commander wasn’t looking so Ukraine would snipe him",
">\n\nLike the old paper signs taped on the back saying \"kick me\", but instead it's \"kill me\"",
">\n\nUkraine and NATO wouldn’t have even needed to use spies. What part of the US being able to see their troop movements with satellites don’t the Russians understand?\nThere will be no “surprise” attacks.",
">\n\nHey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border,\nright? Walked right into that ~~Imperial~~ Ukrainian ambush",
">\n\nI thought Russia was performing a Unilateral Ceasefire Operation",
">\n\nCut the head off the snake",
">\n\nDoes anyone really believe anything putler (hitler 2 ) says besides the idiots in Russia ? Putler thinks the world is like the people in his country",
">\n\nI at strategy games better than that and I suck.",
">\n\nOh no!\nAnyway...",
">\n\nGood shots",
">\n\n\"[...] and that's why we propose a ceasefire! ... You think they bought it?\"\n\"Mister Putin, your mic is still on, and you didn't close the live video call.\"\n\"Oh, crap. Uuh, I mean, honored nations, I hope you bought... picnic baskets for the nice, peaceful time we're going to have, hehe... Do you think they suspect that we actually plan to keep attacking despite our cunning and intelligent ruse?\"\n\"Uuh, Mister Putin...\"\n\"Did I do the thing again?\"\n\"Uh, yes, sir, you did.\"\n\"Nuts...\"",
">\n\n\"Well, sneak attack anyway!\"\n\"Sir, it's not a sneak attack if they're expecting...\"\n\"SNEAK. ATTACK.\"",
">\n\nPutin would have gotten away with the sneak attack if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids and that dog!",
">\n\nSo I totally misread that name as Bahamut and was waiting for it to say the soldiers were killed with a mega flare.",
">\n\nCongrats on completing Tier 2 White Lotus!",
">\n\nThe invasion failed? Must be the generals fault because it sure as hell isn't the deranged leader violating their own ceasefire in a nation where his people would rather leave the country then go to war because of the current leaders pride.",
">\n\nKen Burns' Civil War features a soldier saying he'd shoot the enemy soldiers and ignore their commanders because those were pretty much harmless while the soldiers were the ones that were shooting at him. I guess that works if the soldiers are In, heart & soul. But not if they are just slaves being forced to fight",
">\n\n\"But... But... It's CHRISTMAS!\" - V. Putin",
">\n\nBasically Russias army has a revolving door to replace the outgoing dead with fresh cannon fodder.",
">\n\nOne less RU commander. Great news! 👍",
">\n\nMore monsters slain, good.",
">\n\nDoes the average ruzzian citizen realize how trash their reputation is now? If they're not a hacker, they support genocide. Hard to trust a single one of em at this point.",
">\n\nI mean...how does being a hacker give them a pass on supporting genocide?",
">\n\nHe’s referring to how, before this war, the reputation of Russians was that too many were hackers and data-thieves. Now, that is the preferred stereotype.",
">\n\nAh, now I get it. Thanks!",
">\n\nRussians = Mangalores",
">\n\nRussian DICKtator opens mouth bullshit follows. The new saying in the future will be \"never trust a Russian they are full of shit\"",
">\n\nI wonder what kind of news Putin gets. Any facts at all?",
">\n\n“Communism was just a red herring“",
">\n\nThere are approx 250 people dying a day there, sick to be watching these videos, poor families",
">\n\nI mean no disrespect - but isn’t a border guard the “mall cop” of the armed forces? That is to say, these less-than-highly-trained soldiers eliminated Russian forces and killed their commander?",
">\n\nDepends on the area. You don’t want poor troops at your hot borders.",
">\n\nThat’s true.",
">\n\nSo there are orders from the top to attack during the ceasefire with the idea that \"they are distracted by truce\", and that would win it?",
">\n\nWhat ceasefire?\nThe invading army doesn't get to call \"time out\" to resupply and catch their breath.",
">\n\nOhhh. I see the miscommunication. I am talking about Russia. Did Russians get orders from the top to \"attack during the \"ceasefire\" ,Ukraine will surely accept these terms. So when they do.. WE STRIKE and WIN!\"\nWhat was Russia's plan behind this logic? Did they think they could really win with this dumb strat?",
">\n\nAhh, OK, sorry, I misread.\nYeah, seriously, the Russians must have had 0 intentions of ever following through on their bullshit \"ceasefire\".\nI have a hard time imagining that they are super eager to be on the offensive. This must have been an order from above to attack during the Christmas ceasefire.",
">\n\nI think I wrote it poorly, so that is on me.\nYeah I am with you, I can't imagine a Russian Battalion who has any energy for an offensive at this time. But they continue to surprise me even to this day.",
">\n\nFunnily enough you're both wrong. Yes Putin announced a ceasefire for Orthodox Christmas but Ukraine immediately and publically rejected it. So I imagine the Russian's shrugged and decided to keep bombing.",
">\n\nTechnically, aren’t all soldiers on the front line “border guards”?\n(Edit: This is not meant as a serious comment)",
">\n\nNo. Not those ordered to invade. The Russians got killed at the border were at the border too.",
">\n\nOptimum Barrel Time!",
">\n\nWhy would there be border guards in Bakhmut? Am I missing something?",
">\n\nLike that it’s on the edge of Russian occupied territory?",
">\n\nWell yeah, but why send border guards to a non existing border? Wouldn't that mean that Ukraine recognizes the independence of a separatist Donetsk republic?",
">\n\nJust because you're part of the border guard doesn't mean you can't be redeployed somewhere else. Marines also don't always fight near water...\nThis article refers to a sniper unit from the border guard that got redeployed to Bakhmut",
">\n\nthey have been eliminating commanders and generals of the Russian army dice pretty much day 1. nothing surprising here!",
">\n\nWhat does border guard mean here? Just a designation?"
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