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[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran.", ">\n\nAfter he pisses off Texas, he’ll take off to China. I called this as soon as he started moving to Texas.\nHe will use any and all means to get what he wants" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran.", ">\n\nAfter he pisses off Texas, he’ll take off to China. I called this as soon as he started moving to Texas.\nHe will use any and all means to get what he wants", ">\n\nJury of your peers seems like California Elon" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran.", ">\n\nAfter he pisses off Texas, he’ll take off to China. I called this as soon as he started moving to Texas.\nHe will use any and all means to get what he wants", ">\n\nJury of your peers seems like California Elon", ">\n\nHe’s looking for Republican/trump appointed judges." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran.", ">\n\nAfter he pisses off Texas, he’ll take off to China. I called this as soon as he started moving to Texas.\nHe will use any and all means to get what he wants", ">\n\nJury of your peers seems like California Elon", ">\n\nHe’s looking for Republican/trump appointed judges.", ">\n\n\"Your honor, my client ain't feelin' the vibe\"" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran.", ">\n\nAfter he pisses off Texas, he’ll take off to China. I called this as soon as he started moving to Texas.\nHe will use any and all means to get what he wants", ">\n\nJury of your peers seems like California Elon", ">\n\nHe’s looking for Republican/trump appointed judges.", ">\n\n\"Your honor, my client ain't feelin' the vibe\"", ">\n\nWhen is he going to start yelling witch hunt like the other repulsive idiot?" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran.", ">\n\nAfter he pisses off Texas, he’ll take off to China. I called this as soon as he started moving to Texas.\nHe will use any and all means to get what he wants", ">\n\nJury of your peers seems like California Elon", ">\n\nHe’s looking for Republican/trump appointed judges.", ">\n\n\"Your honor, my client ain't feelin' the vibe\"", ">\n\nWhen is he going to start yelling witch hunt like the other repulsive idiot?", ">\n\nBecause he owns the judiciary where he’s trying to move the “trial“" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran.", ">\n\nAfter he pisses off Texas, he’ll take off to China. I called this as soon as he started moving to Texas.\nHe will use any and all means to get what he wants", ">\n\nJury of your peers seems like California Elon", ">\n\nHe’s looking for Republican/trump appointed judges.", ">\n\n\"Your honor, my client ain't feelin' the vibe\"", ">\n\nWhen is he going to start yelling witch hunt like the other repulsive idiot?", ">\n\nBecause he owns the judiciary where he’s trying to move the “trial“", ">\n\nThat's absurd. That would be like having your case overseen by a judge you appointed." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran.", ">\n\nAfter he pisses off Texas, he’ll take off to China. I called this as soon as he started moving to Texas.\nHe will use any and all means to get what he wants", ">\n\nJury of your peers seems like California Elon", ">\n\nHe’s looking for Republican/trump appointed judges.", ">\n\n\"Your honor, my client ain't feelin' the vibe\"", ">\n\nWhen is he going to start yelling witch hunt like the other repulsive idiot?", ">\n\nBecause he owns the judiciary where he’s trying to move the “trial“", ">\n\nThat's absurd. That would be like having your case overseen by a judge you appointed.", ">\n\nSocialism for the rich, individualism for the poor" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran.", ">\n\nAfter he pisses off Texas, he’ll take off to China. I called this as soon as he started moving to Texas.\nHe will use any and all means to get what he wants", ">\n\nJury of your peers seems like California Elon", ">\n\nHe’s looking for Republican/trump appointed judges.", ">\n\n\"Your honor, my client ain't feelin' the vibe\"", ">\n\nWhen is he going to start yelling witch hunt like the other repulsive idiot?", ">\n\nBecause he owns the judiciary where he’s trying to move the “trial“", ">\n\nThat's absurd. That would be like having your case overseen by a judge you appointed.", ">\n\nSocialism for the rich, individualism for the poor", ">\n\nFrom Texas. Fucking hate this guy." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran.", ">\n\nAfter he pisses off Texas, he’ll take off to China. I called this as soon as he started moving to Texas.\nHe will use any and all means to get what he wants", ">\n\nJury of your peers seems like California Elon", ">\n\nHe’s looking for Republican/trump appointed judges.", ">\n\n\"Your honor, my client ain't feelin' the vibe\"", ">\n\nWhen is he going to start yelling witch hunt like the other repulsive idiot?", ">\n\nBecause he owns the judiciary where he’s trying to move the “trial“", ">\n\nThat's absurd. That would be like having your case overseen by a judge you appointed.", ">\n\nSocialism for the rich, individualism for the poor", ">\n\nFrom Texas. Fucking hate this guy.", ">\n\nIF THEN = <> 0\nELSE = 1 \nRETURN" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran.", ">\n\nAfter he pisses off Texas, he’ll take off to China. I called this as soon as he started moving to Texas.\nHe will use any and all means to get what he wants", ">\n\nJury of your peers seems like California Elon", ">\n\nHe’s looking for Republican/trump appointed judges.", ">\n\n\"Your honor, my client ain't feelin' the vibe\"", ">\n\nWhen is he going to start yelling witch hunt like the other repulsive idiot?", ">\n\nBecause he owns the judiciary where he’s trying to move the “trial“", ">\n\nThat's absurd. That would be like having your case overseen by a judge you appointed.", ">\n\nSocialism for the rich, individualism for the poor", ">\n\nFrom Texas. Fucking hate this guy.", ">\n\nIF THEN = <> 0\nELSE = 1 \nRETURN", ">\n\nBro people hate you universally. It doesn’t matter where you go" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran.", ">\n\nAfter he pisses off Texas, he’ll take off to China. I called this as soon as he started moving to Texas.\nHe will use any and all means to get what he wants", ">\n\nJury of your peers seems like California Elon", ">\n\nHe’s looking for Republican/trump appointed judges.", ">\n\n\"Your honor, my client ain't feelin' the vibe\"", ">\n\nWhen is he going to start yelling witch hunt like the other repulsive idiot?", ">\n\nBecause he owns the judiciary where he’s trying to move the “trial“", ">\n\nThat's absurd. That would be like having your case overseen by a judge you appointed.", ">\n\nSocialism for the rich, individualism for the poor", ">\n\nFrom Texas. Fucking hate this guy.", ">\n\nIF THEN = <> 0\nELSE = 1 \nRETURN", ">\n\nBro people hate you universally. It doesn’t matter where you go", ">\n\nCool, this could be even bigger then the Alec Jones trial. Now where do you get a ticket?" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran.", ">\n\nAfter he pisses off Texas, he’ll take off to China. I called this as soon as he started moving to Texas.\nHe will use any and all means to get what he wants", ">\n\nJury of your peers seems like California Elon", ">\n\nHe’s looking for Republican/trump appointed judges.", ">\n\n\"Your honor, my client ain't feelin' the vibe\"", ">\n\nWhen is he going to start yelling witch hunt like the other repulsive idiot?", ">\n\nBecause he owns the judiciary where he’s trying to move the “trial“", ">\n\nThat's absurd. That would be like having your case overseen by a judge you appointed.", ">\n\nSocialism for the rich, individualism for the poor", ">\n\nFrom Texas. Fucking hate this guy.", ">\n\nIF THEN = <> 0\nELSE = 1 \nRETURN", ">\n\nBro people hate you universally. It doesn’t matter where you go", ">\n\nCool, this could be even bigger then the Alec Jones trial. Now where do you get a ticket?", ">\n\nNFT dot PatriotScam dot Hillary dot biz" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran.", ">\n\nAfter he pisses off Texas, he’ll take off to China. I called this as soon as he started moving to Texas.\nHe will use any and all means to get what he wants", ">\n\nJury of your peers seems like California Elon", ">\n\nHe’s looking for Republican/trump appointed judges.", ">\n\n\"Your honor, my client ain't feelin' the vibe\"", ">\n\nWhen is he going to start yelling witch hunt like the other repulsive idiot?", ">\n\nBecause he owns the judiciary where he’s trying to move the “trial“", ">\n\nThat's absurd. That would be like having your case overseen by a judge you appointed.", ">\n\nSocialism for the rich, individualism for the poor", ">\n\nFrom Texas. Fucking hate this guy.", ">\n\nIF THEN = <> 0\nELSE = 1 \nRETURN", ">\n\nBro people hate you universally. It doesn’t matter where you go", ">\n\nCool, this could be even bigger then the Alec Jones trial. Now where do you get a ticket?", ">\n\nNFT dot PatriotScam dot Hillary dot biz", ">\n\nKarma is a bitch little man baby. Even tho you got plenty of money, you still have consequences when you do something illegal or unethical. Asshole." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran.", ">\n\nAfter he pisses off Texas, he’ll take off to China. I called this as soon as he started moving to Texas.\nHe will use any and all means to get what he wants", ">\n\nJury of your peers seems like California Elon", ">\n\nHe’s looking for Republican/trump appointed judges.", ">\n\n\"Your honor, my client ain't feelin' the vibe\"", ">\n\nWhen is he going to start yelling witch hunt like the other repulsive idiot?", ">\n\nBecause he owns the judiciary where he’s trying to move the “trial“", ">\n\nThat's absurd. That would be like having your case overseen by a judge you appointed.", ">\n\nSocialism for the rich, individualism for the poor", ">\n\nFrom Texas. Fucking hate this guy.", ">\n\nIF THEN = <> 0\nELSE = 1 \nRETURN", ">\n\nBro people hate you universally. It doesn’t matter where you go", ">\n\nCool, this could be even bigger then the Alec Jones trial. Now where do you get a ticket?", ">\n\nNFT dot PatriotScam dot Hillary dot biz", ">\n\nKarma is a bitch little man baby. Even tho you got plenty of money, you still have consequences when you do something illegal or unethical. Asshole.", ">\n\nHe just wants to be close to his judge and political buddies currently in said state, in hopes it can help him out. Because he’s burning just about every bridge except for the terrorists he seems to buddy up to on twitter after Jan 6th." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran.", ">\n\nAfter he pisses off Texas, he’ll take off to China. I called this as soon as he started moving to Texas.\nHe will use any and all means to get what he wants", ">\n\nJury of your peers seems like California Elon", ">\n\nHe’s looking for Republican/trump appointed judges.", ">\n\n\"Your honor, my client ain't feelin' the vibe\"", ">\n\nWhen is he going to start yelling witch hunt like the other repulsive idiot?", ">\n\nBecause he owns the judiciary where he’s trying to move the “trial“", ">\n\nThat's absurd. That would be like having your case overseen by a judge you appointed.", ">\n\nSocialism for the rich, individualism for the poor", ">\n\nFrom Texas. Fucking hate this guy.", ">\n\nIF THEN = <> 0\nELSE = 1 \nRETURN", ">\n\nBro people hate you universally. It doesn’t matter where you go", ">\n\nCool, this could be even bigger then the Alec Jones trial. Now where do you get a ticket?", ">\n\nNFT dot PatriotScam dot Hillary dot biz", ">\n\nKarma is a bitch little man baby. Even tho you got plenty of money, you still have consequences when you do something illegal or unethical. Asshole.", ">\n\nHe just wants to be close to his judge and political buddies currently in said state, in hopes it can help him out. Because he’s burning just about every bridge except for the terrorists he seems to buddy up to on twitter after Jan 6th.", ">\n\nHe’s really become a DB or maybe he just always was. F! Him!" ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran.", ">\n\nAfter he pisses off Texas, he’ll take off to China. I called this as soon as he started moving to Texas.\nHe will use any and all means to get what he wants", ">\n\nJury of your peers seems like California Elon", ">\n\nHe’s looking for Republican/trump appointed judges.", ">\n\n\"Your honor, my client ain't feelin' the vibe\"", ">\n\nWhen is he going to start yelling witch hunt like the other repulsive idiot?", ">\n\nBecause he owns the judiciary where he’s trying to move the “trial“", ">\n\nThat's absurd. That would be like having your case overseen by a judge you appointed.", ">\n\nSocialism for the rich, individualism for the poor", ">\n\nFrom Texas. Fucking hate this guy.", ">\n\nIF THEN = <> 0\nELSE = 1 \nRETURN", ">\n\nBro people hate you universally. It doesn’t matter where you go", ">\n\nCool, this could be even bigger then the Alec Jones trial. Now where do you get a ticket?", ">\n\nNFT dot PatriotScam dot Hillary dot biz", ">\n\nKarma is a bitch little man baby. Even tho you got plenty of money, you still have consequences when you do something illegal or unethical. Asshole.", ">\n\nHe just wants to be close to his judge and political buddies currently in said state, in hopes it can help him out. Because he’s burning just about every bridge except for the terrorists he seems to buddy up to on twitter after Jan 6th.", ">\n\nHe’s really become a DB or maybe he just always was. F! Him!", ">\n\nSo you mean after Elon bought Twitter, created a lot of controversy with the moves he made (mass layoffs, failure to pay employees, failure to pay vendors, destroyed the verification system, etc) he wants the trial moved?\nElon fucking made that bed. Sleep in it." ]

[ "You mean he wants preferential treatment in court.", ">\n\nThe phrase in the business is “forum shopping.”", ">\n\nI just remember in civil procedure when we got to this section my prof slapped up a meme of \"Get in losers, we're going forum shopping\"", ">\n\nThat was one of my first law school memes. Classic.", ">\n\nLaw school memes kept me alive those three years lmao.", ">\n\nOne does not simply understand the rules against perpetuity LOTR meme", ">\n\nbut what if walking into mordor takes 21 years longer then the life of any party in being?", ">\n\nAlso WHAT ABOUT THE ELVES!!!???!? So many fertile octogenarians.", ">\n\nImagine being the CEO of an electric car company, one of the first ones known for being on the ground floor of a movement the entirety of California is on board with and pushing for... and managing to make them hate you. Good job, Elon.", ">\n\nSort of a pattern with the guy. Did the same thing with starlink in Ukraine - got them set up and using it, was lauded for the tech and his assistance in fighting the war - people loved him for it. Then he flushed all that goodwill down the drain by saying they weren't going to provide access/funding to Ukraine anymore. He eventually backtracked but the damage was done, he can't just leave well enough alone.", ">\n\nHe's gotten it down to an art with Twitter. From 0 to hate in record time.", ">\n\nReinstated Michael Flynn's account on Jan. 6th, specifically. He's no longer even being subtle with the right-wing trolling anymore.", ">\n\nGood thing for Teslas investors that oil loving Republicans buy EVs eh?", ">\n\nHoly fuck am I glad I dumped my Tesla stock like a year ago.", ">\n\nI still haven’t dumped mine because I haven’t gotten around to it and I’m not proactive lol. Maybe they’ll oust him and it’ll come back up? Probably not but I can dream…", ">\n\nLet's be real man, it's never going back up. Tesla has been massively overvalued since 2020, Musk's bullshittery just sped up the correction.", ">\n\nToo true. There are so many videos floating around about how shitty the Tesla build quality is, which is honestly when I should have sold. I only have like one or two stocks so I’m not too hugely in the hole.. :/", ">\n\nAlso Full Self Driving is still crap. Many complaints on YouTube about it yet it now costs $15,000.", ">\n\nShouldn’t be too big of a surprise. It was the California investors and subsidies that basically created Teslas success…and then he jumped ship and ran to Texas.", ">\n\nTo avoid the taxes that California imposed that gave him the opportunity for Tesla to succeed to begin with.", ">\n\nYep typical rich asshole who’s wants to remove the ladder after he finished climbing it.", ">\n\nThe secret of becoming a billionaire is to find every possible opportunity to get people to give you their money in anticipation of future rewards and then not pay them back", ">\n\nAlso, be born rich.", ">\n\nOr have your parents own an emerald mine, that helps too", ">\n\nIt also helps to be raised by the kind of piece of shit that would marry your daughter and treat people like modern-day slaves because of government supported apartheid. Like father like son.", ">\n\nI’m sure he gets management advice from his dad….seems obvious to me", ">\n\nThat's one thing that I would be very surprised if he did. He hates his father from everything I can tell. But he's become his father too- duplicitous, manipulative, extractive. But he also has the insecurity of a child who was actively neglected and rejected by his father.", ">\n\nHe needs to get fucked but he’s probably too soft…..as he tries to look hard on Twitter", ">\n\nWhat's the point of a jury of peers if you get to choose the region", ">\n\nHe’s trying to make the argument that the jury pool is SO sullied by the negative publicity from his actions that there’s no way he can get a fair trial.\nThat’s bullshit in my opinion but his attorneys are trying to procure the best possible outcome for their client. Here’s hoping the judge sees through this BS.", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”\n\nPoor little Musk, nobody likes him based on his actions.", ">\n\nI thought he was a free speech absolutist?", ">\n\nNo, he's a free speech conservative. You know what that means.", ">\n\nI like this term. Should be used more widely.", ">\n\nHe didn’t realize people don’t like him until a whole auditorium booed at him. He’s that much of a self embellished narcissist.", ">\n\nAnd then on Twitter he tried to spin it as though it's just because San Francisco is full of far left socialist activists (at a Dave Chappelle comedy show)", ">\n\nI really didn't understand Dave's play there. What did he expect to happen? He brings out the DEFINITIVE detached rich white asshole, and the audience would fawn over him just by the sheer force of his presence alone?\nI think Dave forgot where he came from.", ">\n\nI think he's just been under a rock (called privilege) for many years and thought Elon would get the same celebrity worship response he would've gotten five years ago", ">\n\nGeorge Clooney has been richer longer than Dave has. Clooney uses his money to help people in Sudan. Dave Chappelle is just a dick.", ">\n\nBeing rich just means the rock exists for you, it's still your choice whether to crawl under it and stay there", ">\n\n\"Our client has been such an utterly vile piece of shit, than an entire state of 30-some million people detest him that much, your honor. Meanwhile, he's been throwing around a lot of bribe money to make himself look better than the scumbag he truly is, so we want to move the trial so that he is not harmed by himself.\" – His lawyers", ">\n\nOh “shut the door “. On the button", ">\n\n\nSpiro added in the filing that the “negativity toward Mr. Musk was not isolated to the press.” He said there are regular protests and picketing activity in front of Musk’s offices in San Francisco, adding that some are “endorsed and encouraged by local political figures.”.”\n\nRelated Please like me", ">\n\nLol. Rich Afrikaner doesnt like the locals.", ">\n\nCan we move his trial to South Africa?", ">\n\nHis mom is originally from Canada, I wonder how popular he is there\n(I know he's extremely hated in the UK, because the cave rescue guy he called a pedo was a British citizen and the UK press covered that trial extensively, and really emphasized that Elon only won the case because it was in the US)", ">\n\ncanadian here, didnt mind him at first, then he went nuts so... yeah not a huge fan anymore", ">\n\nReminder that his maternal grandfather moved his family from Canada to South Africa for \"political and moral\" reasons", ">\n\nAnyone who leaves Canada has serious issues. Full stop.", ">\n\nHe's going to spend the rest of his life in court and the rest of his fortune on lawyers.", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys representing Tesla and Musk argue that the CEO has garnered extensive and negative publicity in California after taking over a San Francisco-based social media company, Twitter, in October 2022.\n\nWhat a shitshow. Used Twitter to manipulate Tesla's stock, now wants to sever himself from it.", ">\n\nHe did it several times. This was just the most high profile. His constant lies about their cash position, deliveries and production were all designed to keep the stock up or inflate it. Had the truth been known the stock would have dropped before the point where a lot of debt would have been converted to equity.\nIt's one of the biggest failures in SEC history.", ">\n\nThey NEED to put a lifetime trading ban on him. He is the picking poster child for stock manipulation", ">\n\nThey let him off with a $40 million fine last time on the condition that he stop personally tweeting and from now on have his tweets be vetted by Tesla's PR and legal team\nAnd in response he fired Tesla's PR team and literally bought Twitter", ">\n\nNah, I'm pretty sure this is universal negativity. Everyone has heard stories, everyone thinks he's an arse.\nSuck it up.", ">\n\nHe's still got his simps. My coworker just the other day was talking about like he was a god. Insane.", ">\n\nDid you tell your coworker that idol worship shows a lack of independent critical thinking?", ">\n\nNah I didn't bother. He's an old, coked out, trust fund degenerate. Every time I see him he's got fox and friends on blast. he also thinks tucker Carlson is a \"genius\".", ">\n\nSounds like most conservatives these days except for the trust fund part.", ">\n\nLol, “Your Honor, unless the jury is full of assholes, I’m gonna lose!”\nGood luck Elon.", ">\n\nI move for a bad court thingy.", ">\n\nPerhaps all publicity isn't actually good publicity?", ">\n\nHe wants his trial where no one knows what a douche he is! How ‘bout Mars man-child?", ">\n\nI can confidently say that there's not a single human on Mars who doesn't know what a douche he is.", ">\n\naah, it's the trumpian way of shopping for judges. even though he's no longer the richest person on the planet, I'm sure there's some nugget Texas judge he can buy.", ">\n\nIt warms my heart to see more and more people turn against this fraud.", ">\n\nso after he stopped paying employees, then stopped paying rent (a.k.a. going 'full trump') and he's like \"can i go somewhere else? nobody likes me here\"", ">\n\nYep, also a Trump characteristic.", ">\n\nYour honor this isn’t fair, we won’t win in California.", ">\n\nIn other words \"Texas allows rich to avoid accountability\"", ">\n\nThat is their state motto.", ">\n\nIf you squint and look hard, its written in microscopic letters on the state flag as well.", ">\n\nTranslation: “Elon really did a number on pissing off California’s liberal base. We need to move it to an area with a high concentration of Republicans that are currently riding his pole like a stripper in stilettos if we have any chance of winning.”", ">\n\nAin’t just “local” pal.", ">\n\nI wish I was rich enough to move my trials to courts that have a better chance of agreeing with me", ">\n\ntoo freaking bad Elon. You treat my community like shite. Now face the consequences you detestable little worm", ">\n\nHe's definitely one of those creatures like a snail or hermit crab that has to crawl into another's hard shell to have any spine.", ">\n\nAll future business leaders should be watching this. Trolling on social media looks like it creates big quick gains for a famous person.\nBut a cost is that they have to request trials moved to whole other states because trolling causes massive collateral damage that will come calling eventually.\nHis PR strat past 6 years has been like game companies and loot boxes during the 2010s. Massive short term gains, but the festering resentment caused by it will make business SO much harder in 10 years.", ">\n\nYeah this is why people who say \"There's no such thing as bad publicity\" are so fucking stupid\nThe money you can grift short term off of going viral disappears really fast, the bridges you burn with people by insulting them and fucking them over last a lifetime", ">\n\n\"Man lacking discipline who doesn't take 'no' for an answer upset people who know that will judge him.\"", ">\n\nNow, if he himself could just keep on moving all the way back to the hole he crawled out of, THAT would be nice.", ">\n\nOr climb into a capsule and start colonizing Mars", ">\n\nThis would actually be cool to see.", ">\n\nNot really, I don't want Mars to end up being polluted with the corpses of rich morons treating a whole planet like Galt's Gultch.", ">\n\nElon: Also can you make the jurists crazy rightwing conspiracy theorists?", ">\n\n\"A substantial portion of the jury pool in this District is likely to hold a personal and material bias against Mr. Musk as a result of recent layoffs at one of his companies as individual prospective jurors—or their friends and relatives—may have been personally impacted. The existing baseline bias has been compounded, expanded, and reinforced by the negative and inflammatory local publicity surrounding the events.”\nHey, Muskrat, I have an idea. Maybe don't be a cunt and people's opinion of you will be positive 👍.", ">\n\nAll the more reasons he should face the charges in the environment he created.", ">\n\nThe issue occurred in California? Then his Californian peers are those to pass judgement.", ">\n\nYou mean he wants to move to a state where he will get preferential treatment lol.", ">\n\nFunny how when you start shitting on your customer base incessantly, they start to hate you and stop buying your products. That would be like Tim Cook calling all iPhone users a bunch of losers. Would do wonders for their sales. Then imagine him blaming the Fed for poor sales.", ">\n\nVox populi, but not those populi", ">\n\nlol, it's called a jury of your peers for a reason.", ">\n\nDoes this ever work? I swear every time one of these attempts make it to the news judges go \"lol sit down son we got a trail to do\"", ">\n\nIt did for my uncle. He was going through a nasty divorce and his ex wife made up a munch of lies to take everything from him and the family. They lived in a small rural town in Missouri and the whole area knew him and didn't like him much because he wasn't a Christian. Motioned to move the trail to another county so he'd get different jury pool and fair trial.", ">\n\nI would imagine tiny rural towns are sorta why the rule was written. I can't think that I've ever seen it happen where someone is at court in a large population center and can't get a fair jury. It's the entire point of the voir dire process. \nRealistically this just seems like a ploy to push the trial date a little", ">\n\nIt's almost like, if basically every single person would call you guilty for doing a bad thing, you're guilty\nCrazy", ">\n\nI love it that these criminals think we should accommodate them so they can try to dodge consequences easier.", ">\n\nHe'll have to move it to Mars then.", ">\n\nPeople in Austin hate Ellon, too.", ">\n\nYes, Elon… the people who know you best are the ones who hate you", ">\n\nIt's almost like people know what a shitbag he is now.", ">\n\nI’m in Texas (don’t hate on me, I’m not a true Texan!) and there is plenty of negativity towards him here as well. We don’t want him. We have enough super rich assholes here.", ">\n\nSo, hypothetical: I run around keying cars in California in broad daylight. I do it so much and so often that essentially everyone knows me as the guy that keys cars. Some people think the car owners deserve it. Other people like that I'm just so bold and upfront about it. But most people think that keying cars is a criminal act that they've seen me do on live TV. \nWould I get to change venues because most people in California have a negative view of what they've watched me doing?", ">\n\nNo wonder he wants to go to MARS, about the only place there aren’t openly hostile people.", ">\n\nMartians everywhere: fuck this guy invading our home planet", ">\n\n\"Hey, Colonizer.\" –Martian Warrior", ">\n\nIf Ray Bradbury had written Matewan, I would have 2000% borne him children or at least made it through the movie.", ">\n\nBut didn’t he say it was only 10% boos and like, 90% cheering???", ">\n\nWe don't like you here either.", ">\n\nLying about the hyperlink train didn’t help him then admitting he did it to manipulate things like every other thing he does has just become clearer and clearer daily..ask Tesla shareholders", ">\n\nMusk: scams local community out of millions of dollars.\nAlso Musk: \"we can't have impartial jurors because I scammed everyone.\"", ">\n\nI get that California might be biased, but you should not get to choose where the trial gets moved to. That is just flipping the chessboard around when you are losing.", ">\n\nYa bro, hold my trial in Hawaii. I'll go steal some catalytic converters, the community hates that.", ">\n\nHow to say you live in Portland without saying you live in Portland.", ">\n\nThat's not enough to successfully argue for transfer of venue to another district court in another state. MAGAs in DC tried the same many times and failed.", ">\n\n“Help me sir, my money comes from all over the world but can I only have a trial over here and not there, where it started because I made people not like me over there.”", ">\n\nChappelle bringing him on stage is starting to make more sense to me now.", ">\n\nMight need to move further than that. Maybe Russia.", ">\n\nIf they had jury:\n\nshould Elon be punished?\nI am not political, I don't want any trouble", ">\n\nI'm always confused by venue change requests because people.in a local jurisdiction don't like you. Historically, a \"jurt of your peers\" literally meant \"people who know you\". \nYour reputation in the community is supposed to impact how a jury views your actions and influence, not whether they find you guilty as a matter of law, but as to what punishment you should.receive if found guilty.", ">\n\nExactly right.", ">\n\nTo be honest, people in California do tend to despise him and they have good reason. It is hard to find unbiased jurors when you've wronged so many people", ">\n\nNo, it’s because Texas will let him off Scott free. Its run by insurrectionists.", ">\n\n\nThat year, Musk resided in California and Tesla was headquartered in Palo Alto. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO moved his residence to Texas in 2020, and his electric vehicle company relocated its headquarters to Austin in 2021. \n\n\"Your honor, I want the trial moved to a state I was not in at the time.\" Clown filing.", ">\n\nPoor Elon, “people are mean and won’t treat me fairly.” Maybe he can tweet about it and make a meme so people will think he’s cool again. Better yet, he should just ban the State of Cali’s Twitter account. 🤣", ">\n\nOf course this narcissistic shit sack is too weak to handle criticism", ">\n\n\"I don't want to be tried in California, the people there don't like that I committed a crime!\"", ">\n\nDear musk. It's not local negativity, it's just the consequences of your actions, you stale bag of chips", ">\n\n\nIn a motion to transfer venue, attorneys argue that Musk has garnered negative publicity in California after taking over Twitter.\n\nPretty sure he’s garnered negative publicity everywhere. Twitter isn’t in California alone.", ">\n\nNext he will say .. let’s do it on Mars", ">\n\nI thought he was an entrepreneur, California, home of silicon valley, loves entrepreneurs!^(/s)", ">\n\nDid he buy Twitter, with the intent to create hostility in the local potential juror pool, by intentionally, and willfully, doing as much as possible (layoffs, political statements, return to office) as publicly as possible (be new he would be booed and it would be recorded) to get this trial moved?", ">\n\nactually meaning is he has the Texas court bought and paid for.", ">\n\nBut but but I thought it was only a very small minority of people who don’t like sempai daddy musq? :(", ">\n\nElon Musk attorneys try to move trial from Earth to Mars, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nHard to imagine a judge doing a change of venue to a completely different state. They don't even do that in high profile murder cases", ">\n\nIt's not local, honey.", ">\n\nMaybe when you do things publicly wrong and get sued for them then you deserve that “local negativity”", ">\n\n“The people I spend the most time around with fucking hate me, can we do this somewhere that people don’t know as much about me?” is a hell of a thing to admit in open court", ">\n\nIt’s a simple trial, just take $420/share subtract the price Tesla sells for now, multiply by the number of shares outstanding, and you have the losses incurred by the class. Then levy on all of Musk shares in TSLA, and his other assets, and pay back the shareholders for their losses. Easy peasy.", ">\n\nBillionaire wants special privileges because money. Next up, water wet? Our investigation team finds out.", ">\n\nBitch, we hate you here, too. Try us.", ">\n\nElon is so slimy, it’s absolutely revolting", ">\n\nWhy would Texas be impartial if he just built a gigafactory in Austin? Wouldn't they be partial TOWARD him?", ">\n\n“We think jurors will be biased against us here, so we want to transfer to a jurisdiction that will be biased in our favor.”\nIf you were serious about an impartial jury, you’d transfer somewhere else, like the District of Colorado. Making a motion to transfer to Texas was a stupid f’ing legal decision because you’re sure to get denied by a judge like Chen for such a transparent move. Good legal work, idiots. \nNo, really, good looks QE. The “trial experts.” Don’t know what the fuck you’re doing, unless your strategy really is to appeal this all the way up, then you only somewhat know what you’re doing.", ">\n\nMusk should totally get out of California. He didn’t care about workers in the Fremont factory when Covid infections were at an all time high and now he is mistreating workers at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco. Texas deserves Musk and Musk deserves Texas….", ">\n\nIf you're on trial for manipulating stock prices in 2018, and then by 2023 you generate so much negative sentiment that you're universally hated, you can't really use that as your excuse to move the trial.\nThen, ANYONE can do the same thing by just being a total asshole in the state that they're on trial in, and then claim that the locals hate them too much to find an impartial jury.\nIt's all total complete bs.", ">\n\nI don't think this will have a chance of getting past a judge. This is a blatant case of trying to shop around the lawsuit to a place where he thinks people would have a favorable view of musk's twitter.", ">\n\nTurns out the “find out” stage isn’t nearly as much fun as the “fuck around” stage. Poor elon", ">\n\nMeanwhile he's gunning hard for \"global negativity.\"", ">\n\nHe has Texas in his back pocket", ">\n\nSo, if you’re a Nazi, you shouldn’t be tired anywhere where there are negative perceptions of Nazi’s?", ">\n\nElon Musks attorney’s try to move trial from earth to the moon, citing local negativity.", ">\n\nShit, just take it to Mars.", ">\n\nCiting “actual laws being enforced.” Damn liberals?", ">\n\nWell Your Honor, I dropped a turd in the punch bowl, and now the partygoers have a \"negative attitude\" about me, for some reason.", ">\n\nYou reap what you sow", ">\n\nThat's the thing about being an asshole, the negativity is always localized around you wherever you go.", ">\n\nwell, well, well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", ">\n\nIt's so unexpected that after turning himself into a second-tier supervillain just for the attention that most people don't like him.", ">\n\nYou mean he doesn't want to be continuously humiliated more for losing 200 billion? Who knew?", ">\n\nNarrator: it’s not just people in California who think musk is a cunt.", ">\n\nSo if you're a giant asshole you're supposed to get special privileges according to his lawyers??", ">\n\nMan who kills gay man in hate crime tries to move trial to Saudi Arabia, citing ‘local negativity’", ">\n\nYo Elon, we hate you in Texas, too! 🖕", ">\n\nThis is called “judge shopping”, Trump tries it regularly", ">\n\nThey're also trying to replace the court case with \"pistols at dawn\".", ">\n\nI volunteer. Either I get the robber baron and am a hero or I don't have to live in his dystopia anymore. I'm pretty damn good shot too so I think my chances are pretty good but either way its a win.", ">\n\nEvery day, he manages to damage his brand even more than the day before. What talent.", ">\n\nHot take-if you are a household name for being a piece of shit in your community, that's your own goddamn fault and the justice system should be under no obligation to compensate for that by hunting down jurors who might not hate you as much.\nIf your child is notorious for being a little shithead at school, why should their disciplinary meeting be held with another teacher who's never had to deal with their behavior in class?", ">\n\nI’m not sure we like him all that much more in Texas. A billionaire Californian coming here to tell Texas to all get electric cars? In Austin, where there are also mass tech layoffs and we’ve watched his callousness towards employees on twitter? \nBeing from California is probably enough though. Good luck son.", ">\n\nWhere do they want to have the trial? The article said \"Western Texas,\" and if they think Austin or Boca Chica is west Texas, they are sorely mistaken. Also, having Saudis testify for you isn't going to help your case.", ">\n\nYour honor, how is my client supposed to get a fair trial with all this damning evidence against him?", ">\n\nPeople hate him everywhere, you could move it to the moon and it wouldn’t matter.", ">\n\n\"It's not fair for the trial to take place in this town. I killed that young girl here. There's a lot of local negativity.\"", ">\n\nWe hate him in Texas too.", ">\n\nThe fascist leadership in Texas loves him though. That’s why he wants to go there.", ">\n\nDenied, let’s get this going.", ">\n\nTrying to get my case dismissed due to bad vibes.", ">\n\nIt would be nice to have truly nuetral courts. Bias is a problem, but there's negative and preferential bias. So when someone cites negative bias with good reason, it would be nice to have a spot to go to that isn't then preferential.\nDivorcing musk from this subject, bias in general is a problem in courts to the point that there's a whole policy on judges being ethically obligated to recuse themselves when they're too close to the issue for whatever reason.", ">\n\n9th circuit to 5th? That's a travesty.", ">\n\nLocal negativity to a hometown discount. Go f yourself.", ">\n\nBefore reading this I already knew it was the Western District in Texas.", ">\n\nWe don’t want him either.", ">\n\nImagine taking sole and willful actions (that you didn't have to take) and then asking the court for help because your actions weren't popular. \nAlso... his name is one of the most recognizable in the world--I think an argument could be made that there are supporters and opposition for Musk everywhere.", ">\n\nWell.... he moved his ass and his shit to TX for a reason.", ">\n\nHe is just afraid of getting booo’ed again but this time in court", ">\n\nOk as a compromise you can have the trial in New Jersey", ">\n\nAnd \"local positivity\" in Texas serves justice better? Serves Elon better, no doubt.", ">\n\nThe negativity isn’t “local”.", ">\n\nTexans are more likely to support Musk so it is no shock that Elon would do something like this.", ">\n\nAll this guy does is whine nowadays. \nWhine and tank social media companies. Nothing else.", ">\n\nyeah because people in rural Texas are totally non-biased towards the guy moving all his business to the area while espousing Trumpisms online", ">\n\nMeaning the asshole gets more bribe for his money", ">\n\nWe don't like you either, buckaroo.", ">\n\nCan we move everything back to South Africa?", ">\n\nTexas the judges can be bribed.", ">\n\nPoor rich kid cant get a judge he likes? gotta move to texas where they like poor rich kids.", ">\n\nHe personally made the decision to fire all of those people, poisoning the jury pool himself. The jury selection process can certainly exclude former employee's of Twitter that he personally fired. Further, the news about his behavior at Twitter isn't some local issue, either; he's garnered bad press across the globe.", ">\n\nTravis County is sick of Elon Musk too", ">\n\nWhen you have money you get to be picky", ">\n\nElon thinking it's going to go better for him in Texas is fucking hilarious. I'm not entirely sure he realizes how much the vast majority of people truly hate him here outside of the Austin bubble.", ">\n\nMusk's legal team stated that the vibes were \"like..super harsh.\"", ">\n\n\"We wont play the playoff game if it's not on home court\"", ">\n\nLol, they're arguing that he's laid off so many people that they wouldn't be able to find a juror that hadn't been laid off by him or know someone who was", ">\n\nElon is basically a Republican now. He wants to go to Texas to get preferential treatment. Screw him", ">\n\nThe people who have good reason to hate me are just being negative maaaaan", ">\n\nElon is Corrupt move the Trial to New York City!", ">\n\nHe fucked with the one thing that money cannot buy which is good pr", ">\n\n“Your Honor my client is a publicly known evil figure in this jurisdiction. We’d like to file motion for change of venue with a jurisdiction where they haven’t yet got to know him so well.”", ">\n\nSo he's venue shopping. Let's see how that works out.", ">\n\nIs he taking this off-planet?", ">\n\nWhen he is inevitably on trail for sexual harassment he will want the trail moved to Saudi Arabia", ">\n\nNobody likes you, boo hoo.", ">\n\nWhy is it taking place in Cali? Is it because that's where the grievance is? If so, my response would be \"Sure I committed a murder in Australia, can I have my trial in Norway though? Let me go to one of those hotel prisons please\"", ">\n\nElon is a spoiled pos that was never told no now he thinks he runs the world", ">\n\nThe crime he allegedly committed in 2018 occurred in CA, not two years later when he moved himself and his operations to TX. Our US judicial systems are rife with corruption, so allowing him any leeway in this case will prove to regular folks, once again, just how corrupt the system is when it bends for the wealthy.", ">\n\nKarma needs to get on The Elon Jet and explain to\nthis mad bad Alt right jerkwad that actions have consequences", ">\n\nkinda admitting you did whatever they say you did. turning tale and running cuz you're afraid.", ">\n\nHe wants to find a venue in which he can bribe the judge and any potential jurors. \nThis request better be turned down. That would be like a man who beat his wife to death for cheating on him to move his venue from the US to Iran.", ">\n\nAfter he pisses off Texas, he’ll take off to China. I called this as soon as he started moving to Texas.\nHe will use any and all means to get what he wants", ">\n\nJury of your peers seems like California Elon", ">\n\nHe’s looking for Republican/trump appointed judges.", ">\n\n\"Your honor, my client ain't feelin' the vibe\"", ">\n\nWhen is he going to start yelling witch hunt like the other repulsive idiot?", ">\n\nBecause he owns the judiciary where he’s trying to move the “trial“", ">\n\nThat's absurd. That would be like having your case overseen by a judge you appointed.", ">\n\nSocialism for the rich, individualism for the poor", ">\n\nFrom Texas. Fucking hate this guy.", ">\n\nIF THEN = <> 0\nELSE = 1 \nRETURN", ">\n\nBro people hate you universally. It doesn’t matter where you go", ">\n\nCool, this could be even bigger then the Alec Jones trial. Now where do you get a ticket?", ">\n\nNFT dot PatriotScam dot Hillary dot biz", ">\n\nKarma is a bitch little man baby. Even tho you got plenty of money, you still have consequences when you do something illegal or unethical. Asshole.", ">\n\nHe just wants to be close to his judge and political buddies currently in said state, in hopes it can help him out. Because he’s burning just about every bridge except for the terrorists he seems to buddy up to on twitter after Jan 6th.", ">\n\nHe’s really become a DB or maybe he just always was. F! Him!", ">\n\nSo you mean after Elon bought Twitter, created a lot of controversy with the moves he made (mass layoffs, failure to pay employees, failure to pay vendors, destroyed the verification system, etc) he wants the trial moved?\nElon fucking made that bed. Sleep in it.", ">\n\nBoo fucking hoo, lil Musky." ]

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[ "New post can be found here" ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!" ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?" ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?" ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum" ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment" ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?" ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer" ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually" ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?" ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy" ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!" ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team.", ">\n\nOverall? More than a brigade. Poland gave 300 tanks in the beginning of the war.\nAt this point the Allies might have finally exceeded Russian donations to the Ukrainian army." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team.", ">\n\nOverall? More than a brigade. Poland gave 300 tanks in the beginning of the war.\nAt this point the Allies might have finally exceeded Russian donations to the Ukrainian army.", ">\n\nUkraine might end up with the single largest active mechanised combat force in Eurasia at this stage." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team.", ">\n\nOverall? More than a brigade. Poland gave 300 tanks in the beginning of the war.\nAt this point the Allies might have finally exceeded Russian donations to the Ukrainian army.", ">\n\nUkraine might end up with the single largest active mechanised combat force in Eurasia at this stage.", ">\n\nThey need it." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team.", ">\n\nOverall? More than a brigade. Poland gave 300 tanks in the beginning of the war.\nAt this point the Allies might have finally exceeded Russian donations to the Ukrainian army.", ">\n\nUkraine might end up with the single largest active mechanised combat force in Eurasia at this stage.", ">\n\nThey need it.", ">\n\nMargaret Thatcher on Putin in 2000: \"I looked at the pictures of Mr. Putin trying to look for a trace of humanity. I should have known better.\"" ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team.", ">\n\nOverall? More than a brigade. Poland gave 300 tanks in the beginning of the war.\nAt this point the Allies might have finally exceeded Russian donations to the Ukrainian army.", ">\n\nUkraine might end up with the single largest active mechanised combat force in Eurasia at this stage.", ">\n\nThey need it.", ">\n\nMargaret Thatcher on Putin in 2000: \"I looked at the pictures of Mr. Putin trying to look for a trace of humanity. I should have known better.\"", ">\n\nGeorge W Bush thought he had found it." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team.", ">\n\nOverall? More than a brigade. Poland gave 300 tanks in the beginning of the war.\nAt this point the Allies might have finally exceeded Russian donations to the Ukrainian army.", ">\n\nUkraine might end up with the single largest active mechanised combat force in Eurasia at this stage.", ">\n\nThey need it.", ">\n\nMargaret Thatcher on Putin in 2000: \"I looked at the pictures of Mr. Putin trying to look for a trace of humanity. I should have known better.\"", ">\n\nGeorge W Bush thought he had found it.", ">\n\nI bumped into a video of Christopher Hitchens on that a few years back. Said basically you don't have to be a mastermind to see that Bush was too stupid to go beyond, \"He's wearing a cross, so he's religious and he will never do anything bad\" and how easy it was for Putin to manipulate him." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team.", ">\n\nOverall? More than a brigade. Poland gave 300 tanks in the beginning of the war.\nAt this point the Allies might have finally exceeded Russian donations to the Ukrainian army.", ">\n\nUkraine might end up with the single largest active mechanised combat force in Eurasia at this stage.", ">\n\nThey need it.", ">\n\nMargaret Thatcher on Putin in 2000: \"I looked at the pictures of Mr. Putin trying to look for a trace of humanity. I should have known better.\"", ">\n\nGeorge W Bush thought he had found it.", ">\n\nI bumped into a video of Christopher Hitchens on that a few years back. Said basically you don't have to be a mastermind to see that Bush was too stupid to go beyond, \"He's wearing a cross, so he's religious and he will never do anything bad\" and how easy it was for Putin to manipulate him.", ">\n\nPutin has a really touching story to go along with that cross he wears. He trots it out for those he thinks will be vulnerable to it. He certainly was aware of BushII's religiosity, and used it against him." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team.", ">\n\nOverall? More than a brigade. Poland gave 300 tanks in the beginning of the war.\nAt this point the Allies might have finally exceeded Russian donations to the Ukrainian army.", ">\n\nUkraine might end up with the single largest active mechanised combat force in Eurasia at this stage.", ">\n\nThey need it.", ">\n\nMargaret Thatcher on Putin in 2000: \"I looked at the pictures of Mr. Putin trying to look for a trace of humanity. I should have known better.\"", ">\n\nGeorge W Bush thought he had found it.", ">\n\nI bumped into a video of Christopher Hitchens on that a few years back. Said basically you don't have to be a mastermind to see that Bush was too stupid to go beyond, \"He's wearing a cross, so he's religious and he will never do anything bad\" and how easy it was for Putin to manipulate him.", ">\n\nPutin has a really touching story to go along with that cross he wears. He trots it out for those he thinks will be vulnerable to it. He certainly was aware of BushII's religiosity, and used it against him.", ">\n\nAs a Ukrainian, huge respect to Greece for requesting that Germany delivers Marders (originally for them) to Ukraine instead." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team.", ">\n\nOverall? More than a brigade. Poland gave 300 tanks in the beginning of the war.\nAt this point the Allies might have finally exceeded Russian donations to the Ukrainian army.", ">\n\nUkraine might end up with the single largest active mechanised combat force in Eurasia at this stage.", ">\n\nThey need it.", ">\n\nMargaret Thatcher on Putin in 2000: \"I looked at the pictures of Mr. Putin trying to look for a trace of humanity. I should have known better.\"", ">\n\nGeorge W Bush thought he had found it.", ">\n\nI bumped into a video of Christopher Hitchens on that a few years back. Said basically you don't have to be a mastermind to see that Bush was too stupid to go beyond, \"He's wearing a cross, so he's religious and he will never do anything bad\" and how easy it was for Putin to manipulate him.", ">\n\nPutin has a really touching story to go along with that cross he wears. He trots it out for those he thinks will be vulnerable to it. He certainly was aware of BushII's religiosity, and used it against him.", ">\n\nAs a Ukrainian, huge respect to Greece for requesting that Germany delivers Marders (originally for them) to Ukraine instead.", ">\n\nAs a Greek I'm very glad about this decision. This is what is fair." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team.", ">\n\nOverall? More than a brigade. Poland gave 300 tanks in the beginning of the war.\nAt this point the Allies might have finally exceeded Russian donations to the Ukrainian army.", ">\n\nUkraine might end up with the single largest active mechanised combat force in Eurasia at this stage.", ">\n\nThey need it.", ">\n\nMargaret Thatcher on Putin in 2000: \"I looked at the pictures of Mr. Putin trying to look for a trace of humanity. I should have known better.\"", ">\n\nGeorge W Bush thought he had found it.", ">\n\nI bumped into a video of Christopher Hitchens on that a few years back. Said basically you don't have to be a mastermind to see that Bush was too stupid to go beyond, \"He's wearing a cross, so he's religious and he will never do anything bad\" and how easy it was for Putin to manipulate him.", ">\n\nPutin has a really touching story to go along with that cross he wears. He trots it out for those he thinks will be vulnerable to it. He certainly was aware of BushII's religiosity, and used it against him.", ">\n\nAs a Ukrainian, huge respect to Greece for requesting that Germany delivers Marders (originally for them) to Ukraine instead.", ">\n\nAs a Greek I'm very glad about this decision. This is what is fair.", ">\n\nHabeck was always in favor of sending tanks. But he is from the Green party, the holdout is the SPD and chancellor Scholz. Unless he changes his mind it won't happen, no matter how many other politicians are in favor of it." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team.", ">\n\nOverall? More than a brigade. Poland gave 300 tanks in the beginning of the war.\nAt this point the Allies might have finally exceeded Russian donations to the Ukrainian army.", ">\n\nUkraine might end up with the single largest active mechanised combat force in Eurasia at this stage.", ">\n\nThey need it.", ">\n\nMargaret Thatcher on Putin in 2000: \"I looked at the pictures of Mr. Putin trying to look for a trace of humanity. I should have known better.\"", ">\n\nGeorge W Bush thought he had found it.", ">\n\nI bumped into a video of Christopher Hitchens on that a few years back. Said basically you don't have to be a mastermind to see that Bush was too stupid to go beyond, \"He's wearing a cross, so he's religious and he will never do anything bad\" and how easy it was for Putin to manipulate him.", ">\n\nPutin has a really touching story to go along with that cross he wears. He trots it out for those he thinks will be vulnerable to it. He certainly was aware of BushII's religiosity, and used it against him.", ">\n\nAs a Ukrainian, huge respect to Greece for requesting that Germany delivers Marders (originally for them) to Ukraine instead.", ">\n\nAs a Greek I'm very glad about this decision. This is what is fair.", ">\n\nHabeck was always in favor of sending tanks. But he is from the Green party, the holdout is the SPD and chancellor Scholz. Unless he changes his mind it won't happen, no matter how many other politicians are in favor of it.", ">\n\nRussia probably isn't making a big deal about IFVs getting sent to Ukraine as that would cause more panic among the Russian population when they announce the next wave of mobilization this week." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team.", ">\n\nOverall? More than a brigade. Poland gave 300 tanks in the beginning of the war.\nAt this point the Allies might have finally exceeded Russian donations to the Ukrainian army.", ">\n\nUkraine might end up with the single largest active mechanised combat force in Eurasia at this stage.", ">\n\nThey need it.", ">\n\nMargaret Thatcher on Putin in 2000: \"I looked at the pictures of Mr. Putin trying to look for a trace of humanity. I should have known better.\"", ">\n\nGeorge W Bush thought he had found it.", ">\n\nI bumped into a video of Christopher Hitchens on that a few years back. Said basically you don't have to be a mastermind to see that Bush was too stupid to go beyond, \"He's wearing a cross, so he's religious and he will never do anything bad\" and how easy it was for Putin to manipulate him.", ">\n\nPutin has a really touching story to go along with that cross he wears. He trots it out for those he thinks will be vulnerable to it. He certainly was aware of BushII's religiosity, and used it against him.", ">\n\nAs a Ukrainian, huge respect to Greece for requesting that Germany delivers Marders (originally for them) to Ukraine instead.", ">\n\nAs a Greek I'm very glad about this decision. This is what is fair.", ">\n\nHabeck was always in favor of sending tanks. But he is from the Green party, the holdout is the SPD and chancellor Scholz. Unless he changes his mind it won't happen, no matter how many other politicians are in favor of it.", ">\n\nRussia probably isn't making a big deal about IFVs getting sent to Ukraine as that would cause more panic among the Russian population when they announce the next wave of mobilization this week.", ">\n\nI’d be pissed if I was a Russian mobilized without weapons armor and training against a 25mm auto cannon armored vehicle" ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team.", ">\n\nOverall? More than a brigade. Poland gave 300 tanks in the beginning of the war.\nAt this point the Allies might have finally exceeded Russian donations to the Ukrainian army.", ">\n\nUkraine might end up with the single largest active mechanised combat force in Eurasia at this stage.", ">\n\nThey need it.", ">\n\nMargaret Thatcher on Putin in 2000: \"I looked at the pictures of Mr. Putin trying to look for a trace of humanity. I should have known better.\"", ">\n\nGeorge W Bush thought he had found it.", ">\n\nI bumped into a video of Christopher Hitchens on that a few years back. Said basically you don't have to be a mastermind to see that Bush was too stupid to go beyond, \"He's wearing a cross, so he's religious and he will never do anything bad\" and how easy it was for Putin to manipulate him.", ">\n\nPutin has a really touching story to go along with that cross he wears. He trots it out for those he thinks will be vulnerable to it. He certainly was aware of BushII's religiosity, and used it against him.", ">\n\nAs a Ukrainian, huge respect to Greece for requesting that Germany delivers Marders (originally for them) to Ukraine instead.", ">\n\nAs a Greek I'm very glad about this decision. This is what is fair.", ">\n\nHabeck was always in favor of sending tanks. But he is from the Green party, the holdout is the SPD and chancellor Scholz. Unless he changes his mind it won't happen, no matter how many other politicians are in favor of it.", ">\n\nRussia probably isn't making a big deal about IFVs getting sent to Ukraine as that would cause more panic among the Russian population when they announce the next wave of mobilization this week.", ">\n\nI’d be pissed if I was a Russian mobilized without weapons armor and training against a 25mm auto cannon armored vehicle", ">\n\nBut were there 600 Ukrainian bodies in those holes?\n​\n/s" ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team.", ">\n\nOverall? More than a brigade. Poland gave 300 tanks in the beginning of the war.\nAt this point the Allies might have finally exceeded Russian donations to the Ukrainian army.", ">\n\nUkraine might end up with the single largest active mechanised combat force in Eurasia at this stage.", ">\n\nThey need it.", ">\n\nMargaret Thatcher on Putin in 2000: \"I looked at the pictures of Mr. Putin trying to look for a trace of humanity. I should have known better.\"", ">\n\nGeorge W Bush thought he had found it.", ">\n\nI bumped into a video of Christopher Hitchens on that a few years back. Said basically you don't have to be a mastermind to see that Bush was too stupid to go beyond, \"He's wearing a cross, so he's religious and he will never do anything bad\" and how easy it was for Putin to manipulate him.", ">\n\nPutin has a really touching story to go along with that cross he wears. He trots it out for those he thinks will be vulnerable to it. He certainly was aware of BushII's religiosity, and used it against him.", ">\n\nAs a Ukrainian, huge respect to Greece for requesting that Germany delivers Marders (originally for them) to Ukraine instead.", ">\n\nAs a Greek I'm very glad about this decision. This is what is fair.", ">\n\nHabeck was always in favor of sending tanks. But he is from the Green party, the holdout is the SPD and chancellor Scholz. Unless he changes his mind it won't happen, no matter how many other politicians are in favor of it.", ">\n\nRussia probably isn't making a big deal about IFVs getting sent to Ukraine as that would cause more panic among the Russian population when they announce the next wave of mobilization this week.", ">\n\nI’d be pissed if I was a Russian mobilized without weapons armor and training against a 25mm auto cannon armored vehicle", ">\n\nBut were there 600 Ukrainian bodies in those holes?\n​\n/s", ">\n\nEvaporated! Just before the hypersonic missile explodes, the builtin laser toasted all the bodies.\nRussia has all the latest tech!11\n(/s)" ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team.", ">\n\nOverall? More than a brigade. Poland gave 300 tanks in the beginning of the war.\nAt this point the Allies might have finally exceeded Russian donations to the Ukrainian army.", ">\n\nUkraine might end up with the single largest active mechanised combat force in Eurasia at this stage.", ">\n\nThey need it.", ">\n\nMargaret Thatcher on Putin in 2000: \"I looked at the pictures of Mr. Putin trying to look for a trace of humanity. I should have known better.\"", ">\n\nGeorge W Bush thought he had found it.", ">\n\nI bumped into a video of Christopher Hitchens on that a few years back. Said basically you don't have to be a mastermind to see that Bush was too stupid to go beyond, \"He's wearing a cross, so he's religious and he will never do anything bad\" and how easy it was for Putin to manipulate him.", ">\n\nPutin has a really touching story to go along with that cross he wears. He trots it out for those he thinks will be vulnerable to it. He certainly was aware of BushII's religiosity, and used it against him.", ">\n\nAs a Ukrainian, huge respect to Greece for requesting that Germany delivers Marders (originally for them) to Ukraine instead.", ">\n\nAs a Greek I'm very glad about this decision. This is what is fair.", ">\n\nHabeck was always in favor of sending tanks. But he is from the Green party, the holdout is the SPD and chancellor Scholz. Unless he changes his mind it won't happen, no matter how many other politicians are in favor of it.", ">\n\nRussia probably isn't making a big deal about IFVs getting sent to Ukraine as that would cause more panic among the Russian population when they announce the next wave of mobilization this week.", ">\n\nI’d be pissed if I was a Russian mobilized without weapons armor and training against a 25mm auto cannon armored vehicle", ">\n\nBut were there 600 Ukrainian bodies in those holes?\n​\n/s", ">\n\nEvaporated! Just before the hypersonic missile explodes, the builtin laser toasted all the bodies.\nRussia has all the latest tech!11\n(/s)", ">\n\nThe bot tally is now up to ~~50~~ ~~60~~ 70.\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov. \nThis round of sus bot activity started around 4 hours ago and it's still ongoing so you may see a few slip through.\nThe majority of the accounts have been attempting to submit posts or comments on other posts. A few have attempted to make comments on the live thread but were quickly removed. The comments were likely taken from other users on older threads.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team.", ">\n\nOverall? More than a brigade. Poland gave 300 tanks in the beginning of the war.\nAt this point the Allies might have finally exceeded Russian donations to the Ukrainian army.", ">\n\nUkraine might end up with the single largest active mechanised combat force in Eurasia at this stage.", ">\n\nThey need it.", ">\n\nMargaret Thatcher on Putin in 2000: \"I looked at the pictures of Mr. Putin trying to look for a trace of humanity. I should have known better.\"", ">\n\nGeorge W Bush thought he had found it.", ">\n\nI bumped into a video of Christopher Hitchens on that a few years back. Said basically you don't have to be a mastermind to see that Bush was too stupid to go beyond, \"He's wearing a cross, so he's religious and he will never do anything bad\" and how easy it was for Putin to manipulate him.", ">\n\nPutin has a really touching story to go along with that cross he wears. He trots it out for those he thinks will be vulnerable to it. He certainly was aware of BushII's religiosity, and used it against him.", ">\n\nAs a Ukrainian, huge respect to Greece for requesting that Germany delivers Marders (originally for them) to Ukraine instead.", ">\n\nAs a Greek I'm very glad about this decision. This is what is fair.", ">\n\nHabeck was always in favor of sending tanks. But he is from the Green party, the holdout is the SPD and chancellor Scholz. Unless he changes his mind it won't happen, no matter how many other politicians are in favor of it.", ">\n\nRussia probably isn't making a big deal about IFVs getting sent to Ukraine as that would cause more panic among the Russian population when they announce the next wave of mobilization this week.", ">\n\nI’d be pissed if I was a Russian mobilized without weapons armor and training against a 25mm auto cannon armored vehicle", ">\n\nBut were there 600 Ukrainian bodies in those holes?\n​\n/s", ">\n\nEvaporated! Just before the hypersonic missile explodes, the builtin laser toasted all the bodies.\nRussia has all the latest tech!11\n(/s)", ">\n\nThe bot tally is now up to ~~50~~ ~~60~~ 70.\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov. \nThis round of sus bot activity started around 4 hours ago and it's still ongoing so you may see a few slip through.\nThe majority of the accounts have been attempting to submit posts or comments on other posts. A few have attempted to make comments on the live thread but were quickly removed. The comments were likely taken from other users on older threads.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nThanks for al the mods hard work, any recommendations on how to recognize them?" ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team.", ">\n\nOverall? More than a brigade. Poland gave 300 tanks in the beginning of the war.\nAt this point the Allies might have finally exceeded Russian donations to the Ukrainian army.", ">\n\nUkraine might end up with the single largest active mechanised combat force in Eurasia at this stage.", ">\n\nThey need it.", ">\n\nMargaret Thatcher on Putin in 2000: \"I looked at the pictures of Mr. Putin trying to look for a trace of humanity. I should have known better.\"", ">\n\nGeorge W Bush thought he had found it.", ">\n\nI bumped into a video of Christopher Hitchens on that a few years back. Said basically you don't have to be a mastermind to see that Bush was too stupid to go beyond, \"He's wearing a cross, so he's religious and he will never do anything bad\" and how easy it was for Putin to manipulate him.", ">\n\nPutin has a really touching story to go along with that cross he wears. He trots it out for those he thinks will be vulnerable to it. He certainly was aware of BushII's religiosity, and used it against him.", ">\n\nAs a Ukrainian, huge respect to Greece for requesting that Germany delivers Marders (originally for them) to Ukraine instead.", ">\n\nAs a Greek I'm very glad about this decision. This is what is fair.", ">\n\nHabeck was always in favor of sending tanks. But he is from the Green party, the holdout is the SPD and chancellor Scholz. Unless he changes his mind it won't happen, no matter how many other politicians are in favor of it.", ">\n\nRussia probably isn't making a big deal about IFVs getting sent to Ukraine as that would cause more panic among the Russian population when they announce the next wave of mobilization this week.", ">\n\nI’d be pissed if I was a Russian mobilized without weapons armor and training against a 25mm auto cannon armored vehicle", ">\n\nBut were there 600 Ukrainian bodies in those holes?\n​\n/s", ">\n\nEvaporated! Just before the hypersonic missile explodes, the builtin laser toasted all the bodies.\nRussia has all the latest tech!11\n(/s)", ">\n\nThe bot tally is now up to ~~50~~ ~~60~~ 70.\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov. \nThis round of sus bot activity started around 4 hours ago and it's still ongoing so you may see a few slip through.\nThe majority of the accounts have been attempting to submit posts or comments on other posts. A few have attempted to make comments on the live thread but were quickly removed. The comments were likely taken from other users on older threads.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nThanks for al the mods hard work, any recommendations on how to recognize them?", ">\n\nBasically, the accounts were all created on the same day so the easiest way to spot them is to check the account creation date followed by other things.\nSubmissions\nThe posts that are submitted are copied and resubmitted by the bot accounts. So one unsuspecting real person submits something and a few minutes later up to four bot accounts will attempt to submit the same exact article with small variations. For example, the edited title might end in an unnecessary exclamation point, question mark, period or semicolon. \nOriginal: \n\nShelling booms around Bakhmut in 'Christmas ceasefire'\n\nBots:\n\nShelling booms around Bakhmut in 'Christmas ceasefire !\nShelling booms around Bakhmut in 'Christmas ceasefire ?\nShelling booms around Bakhmut in 'Christmas ceasefire .\n\nComments\nThese are usually taken from other users on older threads. Sometimes these might be unrelated and taken from comments that are a year old on other subs.\nOther times, the comments are hard to spot and some are truly bizarre. Sometimes it's a statement that agrees or disagrees with another user's question. Sometimes it parrots the original user.\nExample bot comments:\n\nYes, that is exactly what the film is about.\nThe Finnish government has not yet decided what kind of defense materiel they will send to Ukraine, but they are considering sending Leopard 2 tanks.\nThe czars cared deeply for their soldiers because they were peasants." ]

[ "New post can be found here", ">\n\nSounds like their take on Zelensky's Points on Invincibility - similar collection of emergency supplies for the public. This is very classy of Kazakhs.\nThank you Kazakhstan!", ">\n\n\"Under the guidance of Anglo-Saxon IT terrorists\"\nHey Ælfræd, the server ist brocen. Doeth out?\nAskee Wulfnoð to makee on a of.", ">\n\nPray tell, haþ ðe Danes ravaged our bit-lands þrough ðe digitiferous æþer again?", ">\n\nWhat does sagging mean in this context?", ">\n\nLosing momentum", ">\n\nRussia's military and its proxies are absolute scum.", ">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 08.01.2023 (Day 319) estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous day):\n111170 (+430) Personnel\n3069 (+3) Tanks\n6130 (+5) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2065 (+3) Artillery Systems\n431 (+0) MLRS\n217 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n285 (+0) Aircraft\n272 (+0) Helicopters\n1849 (+5) UAV operational-tactical level\n723 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4801 (+3) Other vehicles\n183 (+1) Special Equipment", ">\n\nThe numbers went down quite a bit. I guess those big ass numbers in troops and equipment was thanks to Soledar?", ">\n\nThe Russian military is an extreme case, but this is a problem in many hierarchical organizations. \nNobody gets rewarded for passing bad news up the chain, so managers at each level tweak reports to make themselves look better. By the time information gets to the top of the pyramid, it's unrecognizable.\nThere are ways to mitigate this problem, like having officers who report directly to top brass at the front to give unfiltered reports, but if Russia is doing that sort of thing, we don't know about it.", ">\n\nObligatory example from the early internet.", ">\n\nhopefully with IFVs we can speed run the next 58% before summer", ">\n\nIf the numbers are correct its less than 58% since not all loses are confirmed visually", ">\n\nAlso I believe those figures are based on reported active service tanks by the Russians. I can almost guarantee a significant number of those active service tanks don't exist and some commander make some rubles off the ghost tanks.", ">\n\nYes, but they’ve definitely also restored a good number.", ">\n\nThis is why secondary sanctions are needed. Even though the sanctions still harm Russia (middle men in India and other countries to inflate prices) it's still dangerous to allow it.", ">\n\nIs that the baddie Donetsk administration or the good guy Donetsk administration?", ">\n\ngood guy", ">\n\nRussia tries to avoid losing those. They lose the most when Ukraine is pushing and the frontlines move and the pilots find out when missiles are incoming.", ">\n\nAnother ~~dozen~~ ~~30~~ 40 bot accounts were taken care of during the past hour.\nEach of the sus accounts began posting on the sub one right after the other. You may have had a sense of déjà vu if you briefly saw multiple duplicate posts on the sub's new queue.\nNone of the sus account's posts or comments are visible on the sub. It's likely that the accounts are farming post and comment karma. \nEach of the sus accounts were created around the first week of December 2022 within minutes of each other. The majority began showing activity within the past hour. Several others began showing activity within the past few days.\nEdit:\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nWell done, you work is much appreciated!", ">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 317-319 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe past couple of days were somewhat quiet, but not entirely. Yesterday around 11pm Russians launched 2-4 missiles from Belgorod, at least 2 of which landed in Merefa. They aimed at an oil refinery, which ended up being empty, so they just wasted their missiles as usual, but sadly they did manage to kill 1 person and injure 1 more. Today was also not the quietest day, as artillery duels along our border are happening very frequently, one of those was only about 2 hours ago.\nAs expected, Russians didn’t care about their “Christmas ceasefire” either, as during it not only were they attacking us, but they also claimed that they captured Soledar, which turned out to be wrong and it is still contested as it was before, but it just shows that they can never be trusted. It was funny seeing that even Russian puppets from LPR/DPR were pretty much saying that ceasefire that Putin wanted is a stupid idea and that they won’t be doing it. They didn’t even try to play along with their master Putin, which is pretty surprising, I thought they would be more loyal to him.\nThe new military aid package from the US is just enormous, almost 400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. It’s so weird that Russians didn’t respond to it in any way, they have been very silent after it was announced. Where are the usual nuclear threats? Where did the red line go? Did they finally understand that their threats are completely worthless and nobody cares about them, so now we can get any new weapon we want and they won’t mind? Maybe they were preoccupied with their “operation retribution” where they hit 2 roads with missiles and claimed that they killed 600 soldiers? But even Russians called them out on that lie, so it was yet another failure.\nI wasn’t able to post in the last 3 days because I caught some virus again and couldn’t stand up from bed to go to my pc, but I’m already feeling better now, so I’m going back to writing my updates daily as usual.", ">\n\n400 vehicles is basically an entire small army. \nIt's also a rounding error when the US does weapons inventory.\nKeep the faith. As long as Ukraine has the will to fight, we will make sure it has the weapons.", ">\n\nReportingFromUkraine brings good news from Soledar.\nQuick question though. how big is a platoon in Ukraine's army? Apparently two were sent to help reinforce the city. It's also awesome to hear that air support is doing its thing.", ">\n\nAs with any army, it certainly depends on the type of platoon (tank, rifle, etc) but I think we should assume motor rifle or mechanized rifle, so probably 30-40 men in a platoon -- similar to Russia or U.S.", ">\n\nM109s are now on the table?? Wow between this, towed M777s and HIMARS the US Army is getting an invaluable look at how their artillery handles a modern armored conflict (M109s are apparently getting replaced by the ERCA program soon but still.) Also seems to justify the Army's belief that long range precision fires was the single most important modernization program for the service.", ">\n\nThey're not just on the table - they're part of the new aid package that was just announced.", ">\n\nIs anyone keeping track of the amount of armor being given to Ukraine. I have a sneaking suspicion that when all tanks and AFVs are added up, all these nations will have contributed the equivalent of an armored brigade combat team.", ">\n\nOverall? More than a brigade. Poland gave 300 tanks in the beginning of the war.\nAt this point the Allies might have finally exceeded Russian donations to the Ukrainian army.", ">\n\nUkraine might end up with the single largest active mechanised combat force in Eurasia at this stage.", ">\n\nThey need it.", ">\n\nMargaret Thatcher on Putin in 2000: \"I looked at the pictures of Mr. Putin trying to look for a trace of humanity. I should have known better.\"", ">\n\nGeorge W Bush thought he had found it.", ">\n\nI bumped into a video of Christopher Hitchens on that a few years back. Said basically you don't have to be a mastermind to see that Bush was too stupid to go beyond, \"He's wearing a cross, so he's religious and he will never do anything bad\" and how easy it was for Putin to manipulate him.", ">\n\nPutin has a really touching story to go along with that cross he wears. He trots it out for those he thinks will be vulnerable to it. He certainly was aware of BushII's religiosity, and used it against him.", ">\n\nAs a Ukrainian, huge respect to Greece for requesting that Germany delivers Marders (originally for them) to Ukraine instead.", ">\n\nAs a Greek I'm very glad about this decision. This is what is fair.", ">\n\nHabeck was always in favor of sending tanks. But he is from the Green party, the holdout is the SPD and chancellor Scholz. Unless he changes his mind it won't happen, no matter how many other politicians are in favor of it.", ">\n\nRussia probably isn't making a big deal about IFVs getting sent to Ukraine as that would cause more panic among the Russian population when they announce the next wave of mobilization this week.", ">\n\nI’d be pissed if I was a Russian mobilized without weapons armor and training against a 25mm auto cannon armored vehicle", ">\n\nBut were there 600 Ukrainian bodies in those holes?\n​\n/s", ">\n\nEvaporated! Just before the hypersonic missile explodes, the builtin laser toasted all the bodies.\nRussia has all the latest tech!11\n(/s)", ">\n\nThe bot tally is now up to ~~50~~ ~~60~~ 70.\nMost of today's batch of sus accounts were created on 5 Dec or 28 Nov. \nThis round of sus bot activity started around 4 hours ago and it's still ongoing so you may see a few slip through.\nThe majority of the accounts have been attempting to submit posts or comments on other posts. A few have attempted to make comments on the live thread but were quickly removed. The comments were likely taken from other users on older threads.\n\nIf you see a troll, bot or spam account--report it.\nYou can click the \"report\" link if you find one those comments. Thanks if you already do this.\n🚜\n^Also, ^don't ^name ^any ^users ^in ^any ^comments ^as ^this ^can ^be ^seen ^as ^a ^type ^of ^personal ^attack.", ">\n\nThanks for al the mods hard work, any recommendations on how to recognize them?", ">\n\nBasically, the accounts were all created on the same day so the easiest way to spot them is to check the account creation date followed by other things.\nSubmissions\nThe posts that are submitted are copied and resubmitted by the bot accounts. So one unsuspecting real person submits something and a few minutes later up to four bot accounts will attempt to submit the same exact article with small variations. For example, the edited title might end in an unnecessary exclamation point, question mark, period or semicolon. \nOriginal: \n\nShelling booms around Bakhmut in 'Christmas ceasefire'\n\nBots:\n\nShelling booms around Bakhmut in 'Christmas ceasefire !\nShelling booms around Bakhmut in 'Christmas ceasefire ?\nShelling booms around Bakhmut in 'Christmas ceasefire .\n\nComments\nThese are usually taken from other users on older threads. Sometimes these might be unrelated and taken from comments that are a year old on other subs.\nOther times, the comments are hard to spot and some are truly bizarre. Sometimes it's a statement that agrees or disagrees with another user's question. Sometimes it parrots the original user.\nExample bot comments:\n\nYes, that is exactly what the film is about.\nThe Finnish government has not yet decided what kind of defense materiel they will send to Ukraine, but they are considering sending Leopard 2 tanks.\nThe czars cared deeply for their soldiers because they were peasants.", ">\n\nThanks, I'll try and keep an eye out too." ]